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EA Sports today released the first gameplay trailer for NBA Live 14, which features snippets of gameplay action.

What do you think about the trailer?

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# 541 ESB32CrowBonez @ 10/19/13 03:29 PM
Damn, I should have watch live trailer before 2k. This is very disappointing, the screenshots fooled me. The graphics looks like nba live 10 graphics, which is a bad thing. The animations look weird and stiff. This trailer is very dry, no flavour to it at all. The only positives are the ball and the shoes, both look nice. Live is way too far behind, but I just hope it is released.
 
# 542 Boilerbuzz @ 10/19/13 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by nick_sr
i don't care if ppl didn't like the trailer. "looked better than I expected" because I wasn't expecting much. expected them to put out a game and improve in live 15. don't know what high expectations some of you had.
As I've said before, I'm one of the few people that tried to warn folks not to get their hopes up too high? Why:

1. The team wasn't fully staffed until 18 months ago.
2. The staff is WILDLY inexperienced. Just because Sean O'Brian is leading it, doesn't make up for the hundreds of people that actually have to make the game. O'Gallagher is new to this as well. But just because he played in Europe, he's a natural for game design?
3. We're dealing with Tiburon. A studio pretty notorious lately. But more importantly, a studio that had lost some KEY talent recently AND may be doing too much for it to handle.
4. If they took Live 10, Live 13, or Elite 11, they were STILL going to start from a foundation that was clearly below that of 2K.

So with those points, why in the hell would ANYONE believe that the game was supposed to be good, let alone groundbreaking. So, with my limited time with it at E3, I pretty much expected what you saw in the trailer. Not saying it would be bad. Just have some obvious warts. And, I KNEW some people would hate it. So, I too didn't expect too much. But I fully expect some folks to roast them. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. If others didn't come in threads to over-hype Ignite and Bouncetek, the backlash (a reason it's called "backlash") wouldn't be as strong.
 
# 543 Boilerbuzz @ 10/19/13 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mythreesons
Huh!? So I'll buy a Kia, not because I like Kias but because of the competition it creates with Mercedes

Really?
True. I've made my position on this pretty clear. If you want to support competition, don't buy ANY of EA Sports products! Don't buy 2K if you want to be fair. But you sure as hell shouldn't buy something from a company that has killed competition across the board and would LOVE to kill competition in the basketball genre as well.
 
# 544 GisherJohn24 @ 10/19/13 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gotmadskillzson
Looks exactly like Live 10. Look exactly like a game on the PS3 and 360 as well. After 3 years I just expected way more then this. I will pick it up once it drops to $25 to $30, don't look like it is worth $60. Just way too many other non sports games coming out that look better then this.

Something about the players just look off to me. Too much brightness, shine, reflection or something.
Some players obviously worse or better than others. Nash is iffy, but I think Irving's face looks very good. Not 2k worthy but commendable effort IMO
 
# 545 yungflo @ 10/19/13 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mythreesons
Huh!? So I'll buy a Kia, not because I like Kias but because of the competition it creates with Mercedes

Really?
Exactly. I question the people who throw money at billion dollar corporations and their thought process. EA/Devs Still going to eat. Including the Maintenance crew. They will survive. They have for the 3 year drought. This is an apologist's thinking. Its soft. The best way to get the message across is don't buy the game.

I wonder if these people are the same people who said they would get a xbox one despite of draconian DRM and price tag, cause it supports competition. Microsoft didn't listen until their pockets were hurting.

I have no problem with a person buying it cause its diff, but buying it to support competition, I'm sorry, that's the most ******** thing I ever heard. I get a little annoyed seeing that type of post on message boards, on youtube, on websites. The nba isn't going to close the book on ea. They maintained the stance that they want an Open license.

Ea isn't going to close the book on the NBA cause its far too marketable and profitable to turn your back on. Especially a company that is made 5B just last year http://www.nba.com/2012/news/11/13/s...ba-revenue.ap/

So can the whole, I'm buying it so this series doesn't disappear bull****
 
# 546 Sundown @ 10/19/13 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GisherJohn24
Some players obviously worse or better than others. Nash is iffy, but I think Irving's face looks very good. Not 2k worthy but commendable effort IMO
Irving's head model and textures ARE very good. So are the six guys they head scanned. Except Live jacks it up with its sub par lighting and shaders.
 
# 547 Sundown @ 10/19/13 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nick_sr
i don't care if ppl didn't like the trailer. "looked better than I expected" because I wasn't expecting much. expected them to put out a game and improve in live 15. don't know what high expectations some of you had.
Well, some of us play this other game. It's quite good. And now it's next-gen version looks phenomenal.

We expected something like that. Kind of silly to, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Sirs
Thiis way better than anything live has shown us since 10.
This is true. I admit the Live series now has a heartbeat.

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Originally Posted by Sirs
No video was ever going to change your mindset.
No video made with Live 14, because the game LOOKS TERRIBLE on so many fronts.

A video showing a game that looks phenomenal, has few visual issues, realistic textures, near photorealistic lighting, no animation hitches, human-like movement and expressions, passable basketball AI, and made with the actual game engine-- a video like that would change some of our minds.

You know where we might see one of those?
 
# 548 GisherJohn24 @ 10/19/13 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirs
How many posts do you haters have to post to let people know you hate the trailer, ea, live and the idiots who like it and their buzzwords?

Thiis way better than anything live has shown us since 10. No video was ever going to change your mindset. Maybe the great czars unbiased hands on review will. I hope so cause I owe you all a beat down online for the constant back n forth crap people post here.
Agreed, if it was a perfect game they would still troll this thread
 
# 549 Sundown @ 10/19/13 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GisherJohn24
Agreed, if it was a perfect game they would still troll this thread
You don't know that. And you won't until Live actually looks good. But since it doesn't look like a perfect game, or even a very good game, your speculation is kind of moot.

Live looks like a mediocre-to-bad looking game with a few good elements. That's what the video shows and until proven wrong, we'll believe what we see. We'll just continue to evaluate using our eyes and our heads-- without having to make excuses for obvious flaws we see and downplaying things that look good just because it's not in a product by our favorite brand. What a crazy concept.

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Originally Posted by DukeC
I think they have what's most common in writers. The first draft of a book a writer does is absolutely terrible 100% of the time. Why? Because we didn't write what we think we wrote and we didn't explain what we thought they explained, hence plotholes everywhere. Why is that? Because we are too close to the writing (or product in this case). We need to take a stepback, wait for a month or two, then look at it again or send it out for feedback/get it cleaned up by a professional editor because that's what editors are for.
This is also why Christian Bale's batman voice is dumb, and actually gets dumber with each movie.
 
# 550 Sundown @ 10/19/13 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz
Yes, you can do some moves while moving. But there's a cost. I'll just say that.
Wait, really? Can you elaborate? What's the point if dribble moves don't work right or has issues when you're moving? That's the whole point of dribble moves in real ball.

Do you go into that ridiculous Rose stutter step animation? It's kind of hilarious he took 10 little robotic steps when he could have just taken 3 normal ones.

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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz
Really? They're already on a redesign of the dribbling system (2K11) and it's already capable of everything you see touted in Bouncetek.
You've played both. Does Bouncetek really add little to what you can already do with the Pro-stick? It seems to have better footplanting at least-- well, when you're not being defended close and dribbling in place. There are also times it looks kind of bad with animations all sped up-- which makes me ask, WHY DOES EA constantly speed up their animations in inappropriate and weird looking ways? Madden has this problem even for a basic thing like the throw animation. If you need a faster animation, go and capture one. Or else you lose the nuances of inertia and momentum.

EA needs to stop thinking that their games are "just games" and that no one cares about obvious, glitchy looking visual hacks. They need to think about what looks good and what just looks stupid, which another company seems to pay a lot of attention to.
 
# 551 mlp111 @ 10/19/13 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirs
Key word being looks. If you asked me which videos look better between live 10 and 2k10-14 I'd say 2k looks better. But to me live plays better and still does.
live 10 may have played better than 2k10.... but not 2k11 or 2k14... live 10 has some major issues as well..EA seems to acknowledge those issues evrytime they make a newer game.. just look at some of their elite11 videos, live 14 videos
 
# 552 23 @ 10/19/13 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirs
Key word being looks. If you asked me which videos look better between live 10 and 2k10-14 I'd say 2k looks better. But to me live plays better and still does.
The head producer would be Mike Wang who happens to be at 2k

As soon as he left EA, NBA Live died
 
# 553 GisherJohn24 @ 10/19/13 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by royounggoku
I used to play Live all the time when I was a kid, I even got a little hype when I heard about it coming back and told my friends to look out for it, showing them those face scans of Kyrie Irving. So I'm completely unbiased in terms of Live 14. But I can't possibly show my friends that Live 14 trailer. They'd laugh their asses off at me, and rightfully so. It looks like a current gen game.
The level of detail on Irving's face could not be accomplished on 360 or ps3
 
# 554 23 @ 10/19/13 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirs
Well props to the other people that worked on live 10 because whatever magic wang contributed I don't feel has correlated as well on 2k. I think the constant 1 year plan of control changes proves that. And since live 10 has major issues well then wang had a part in that too.


I highly disagree but I'm not going to talk about 2k here.

All I know is what I see right now and the very next year the controls got crapped on by ea devs and it looked bad as well with the way it was done.
Even still the controls aren't the issue its still the rest of the freaking game and looks to still be that.

So funny how they've managed to distract for the 2nd time in a row about controls when the movement has been that if r2d2 since moving to the 360 ps3


Galaxy Note 2
 
# 555 Sundown @ 10/19/13 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirs
Key word being looks. If you asked me which videos look better between live 10 and 2k10-14 I'd say 2k looks better. But to me live plays better and still does.
You have no idea what Live 14 plays like.

We have a better guess of what next gen 2K14 plays like because at worst it'll be some variation of cur gen. If you dislike that, that's fine. To each their own. No reason to downplay its achievements graphically to those who enjoy it, while Live objectivity looks pretty bad. If you don't mind it's kind of ugly (not just for a next gen game), that's cool too.
 
# 556 Jet Sufferer @ 10/19/13 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirs
How many posts do you haters have to post to let people know you hate the trailer, ea, live and the idiots who like it and their buzzwords?

Thiis way better than anything live has shown us since 10. No video was ever going to change your mindset. Maybe the great czars unbiased hands on review will. I hope so cause I owe you all a beat down online for the constant back n forth crap people post here.
Don't worry, I'm sure there will be dozens of players online on release day that you can ignite.
 
# 557 Sundown @ 10/19/13 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirs
Well props to the other people that worked on live 10 because whatever magic wang contributed I don't feel has correlated as well on 2k. I think the constant 1 year plan of control changes proves that. And since live 10 has major issues well then wang had a part in that too.
Everything wrong is Wang's and 2k's fault. EA can do no wrong apparently. :P

Mike was the biggest factor that made Live 10 better than 9. The series DIED after he left. Whoever is still around that worked on or managed 11-13 are responsible for that debacle if you want to play the blame game. Props to the people who drove it to the ground.

Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? :P
 
# 558 Boilerbuzz @ 10/19/13 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sundown
Wait, really? Can you elaborate? What's the point if dribble moves don't work right or has issues when you're moving? That's the whole point of dribble moves in real ball.
They work just fine. What I played with had a limited set of moves off of motion and I, personally, did not like the feel. But your mileage may vary.


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You've played both. Does Bouncetek really add little to what you can already do with the Pro-stick? It seems to have better footplanting at least-- well, when you're not being defended close and dribbling in place.
What I played with was VERY early. Didn't have the artifacts of 2K13 (at the time, that was my frame of reference), but didn't feel as good either. But it was early and I made it a point of not trying to compare the 2. Still don't want to do that. The way I see it, if I want to play 2K, I'll play 2K.

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There are also times it looks kind of bad with animations all sped up-- which makes me ask, WHY DOES EA constantly speed up their animations in inappropriate and weird looking ways?
I don't know if they do that intentionally. I don't even know if it's the animations or just me. So I don't dock them for that sort of thing.

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Madden has this problem even for a basic thing like the throw animation. If you need a faster animation, go and capture one. Or else you lose the nuances of inertia and momentum.
You can only capture what you can get out of the actors.

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EA needs to stop thinking that their games are "just games" and that no one cares about obvious, glitchy looking visual hacks. They need to think about what looks good and what just looks stupid, which another company seems to pay a lot of attention to.
As long as their fans/customers are still OK with that stuff, why would they waste resources to address it, right?
 
# 559 King_B_Mack @ 10/19/13 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirs
Well props to the other people that worked on live 10 because whatever magic wang contributed I don't feel has correlated as well on 2k. I think the constant 1 year plan of control changes proves that. And since live 10 has major issues well then wang had a part in that too.


Maaaannnnnn......I have ****ing seen it all now. We've officially hit rock bottom of this discussion. My man gonna give everybody on the team but Wang credit for the good parts of his holy grail of basketball games and somehow single out just Mike for all the bad that was in the game at the same time. Earth today.

I hope my man Mike is reading this **** and having himself a nice big smile with his heels kicked back looking at his stack of 2K11, 2K12, 2K13, 2K14 CG and 2K14 NG sitting next to his stack of Live 10, errr moving on, ummm okay, ehhh nevermind.
 
# 560 King_B_Mack @ 10/19/13 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirs
When did I say his efforts did nothing for live or 2k? I think the best we've seen of him so far is when he collaborated with live thx to their support, employees and tech. He was able to help solidify the dribbling from 9 in one year and who knows whatelse. He's had 3 on 2k with their staff and it still doesn't feel good to me in lots of aspects.

My other point is that if live 10 is the **** show you claim it be well part of that is because of him then too so stop just ragging on ea.

As far as the new staff I like they looked to someone familiar with live 10 and FIFA.

I'm not here to argue. I like the trailer and live.
Now you're putting words in people's mouths. Who said Live 10 was a **** show? Don't worry, I'll wait. The general consensus around here is that Live 10 is the best effort they've put out in years if not the best version ever. That said, there was still a TON wrong with it because there simply wasn't enough time to fix everything.

But don't worry I won't talk Live and 2K with you any further now.
 


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