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Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?
Jayson Young: I'm amazed by how much better the retail version is compared to the demo. The gameplay in the demo felt so stale and boring that I stopped playing it after a few days, but the final build has me hooked to the point where I am staying up late just to play the darn thing.

There are still issues, such as the interactions between the offensive and defensive lines, the skating player movement and being unable to hit a ball-carrier while he's in the middle of an animation (not to mention this delicious bug), but unlike previous versions of NCAA, the game's shortcomings haven't killed the fun factor for me.

It's not going to reach the elite level of sports franchises until the commentary gets updated and the player movement, physics and animations become more lifelike, but it's still the first NCAA game this generation where the fun factor manages to overcome the game's flaws.


Jayson embraces NCAA Football 12, even if he does think it's flawed.

Bob Kollars: When the demo dropped, I could see so many minor improvements, and I knew these improvements would only be felt on a much greater level when the retail version found its way into my 360 tray. In my opinion, this is the best overall package EA has ever put out for a football game. A combination of slick graphics, stadium sounds, improved gameplay and a revamped Road To Glory mode have made this offering a much more in-depth experience. Gone are the days of suction blocking and tackling, and the new improvements to zone defense (while not perfect) are a huge step in the right direction. The one thing that I would love to have is a Spectator mode; I would love to have the ability to scout my next human opponent in an online dynasty in advance, and this mode would fill those needs. How cool would it be to watch the championship game live for your online dynasty -- that's a rhetorical question as we all know it would be mind-blowingly cool!

I am not claiming that NCAA 12 is a perfect game, just that it's the best offering to date in the form of college football. The CPU plays a smarter game on the field, and at times it even feels like you are actually playing another human opponent. If folks cannot find improvement and some enjoyment in this year's title, then the series is probably dead to them -- and said people should stop buying the product in the future. After devoting over a week's time, and well over 40 games, I'm more than content with my purchase.


Bob also has a strong desire to hold this year's title close to his bosom.

Caley Roark: I'm not the biggest college football fan, but I had seen enough press and information to preorder NCAA 12 pretty early. Then I played the demo. Largely, I wasn't impressed by it; it seemed to be just another EA football game, a formula that's becoming increasingly stale. Yes, it had better lighting and some ESPN overlays, but it still felt rather dull. I nearly cancelled my preorder.

But after a week and change, I am happy I didn't. The game plays much better than the demo, especially with the variety of new tackling animations. I love when a ball carrier is nearly knocked down, stumbles, then keeps going. It's refreshing to not know all of the tackling animations by heart, as has been the case with recent Madden titles.

I'm also interested in the coaching aspect of the Dynasty mode, and being a coordinator makes games a little quicker to squeeze in here and there. I suppose at some point I'll jump to a head coaching spot, but for now I'm happy controlling the offense. I've dabbled with Road to Glory, which is much improved from past versions I've played. I look forward to spending more time there. Overall, I'm pleasantly surprised. I wish the commentary and presentation elements were better (it's criminal that there isn't some kind of halftime recap), but I'm having a good time so far.


Caley likes the game, but he wants more than just team-specific entrances on the presentation front.

Dustin Toms: I'm not one who gets obsessed with My Player modes, but Road to Glory has made NCAA 12 one of the best purchases I have ever made for my gaming collection.

RtG has always been the best of the My Player modes in these football titles, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it was anything super special. But with this year's improvements and position battles, I have fallen in love with my University of Washington QB (I chose a mid-level school for realistic purposes). Plus the fact that you can re-create your entire senior high school season is bringing back memories I thought I had forgotten.

But outside of RtG, NCAA 12 has impressed. With many led to believe that there was no way it could make a big enough jump from NCAA 11, the surprise of opening up a much better game is well deserved for us "unfortunate" gamers. The graphics are greatly improved and Dynasty mode has been touched up.

Like others have said, this game comes with its problems. The zone coverage is still a bit iffy, and there seems to be a strange freeze bug tied to customizing your own experience, but the game is not to the point where a patch or two can't tweak everything to where it needs to be.


Like the others, Dustin can overlook some problems because the core experience keeps bringing him back.

They were honestly a bit more positive than I expected. Nevertheless, continue to chat about all facets of the game, positive and negative. And bonus points go to the ones who are actually calm and articulate during their discussions.

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Member Comments
# 81 squadron supreme @ 07/22/11 08:50 PM
We all know games are going to have glitches and problems some big some small. The problem with EA is that all of the new features they hyped up this year all have severe bugs. Roster editor, custom playbooks, coaching carousel all have unnecessary bugs that kill the fun of those features. Cpu pass rushers using no special moves and always rushing to the outside. The fact that the pre-release patch messed up jersey degredation and overall graphical quality and not to mention the nearly silent crowd. Is the game fun with default rosters yes but their is no way these problems should exist. I could give them a pass if this were the first time they made a football game or they totally rebuilt the series from the ground up but they didn't. I expect because they've showed they can do better.
 
# 82 squadron supreme @ 07/22/11 08:55 PM
*I expect better because
 
# 83 Herky @ 07/22/11 08:59 PM
The demo of the game was at least a month old. I don't get why people are saying the retail version is so much better than the demo. It should be because it was a old version of the game.

The people who contributed to this article must not use named rosters either.
 
# 84 LolitaTyroneJenkins @ 07/22/11 09:26 PM
lol - no comment ok roundtable wink wink EA $$
 
# 85 xITSxDAWKINSx @ 07/22/11 09:30 PM
i like the game but i could be a lot better. my issue with it was i got to the bowl season and number 4 boise state was playing 1 miami for the title and number 2 stanford played in the rose bowl. i like the game i will play it but come agustus 30th i just might have to trade it for madden.
 
# 86 Spanky @ 07/22/11 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus34
It's like the people at EA didn't even test the Dynasty Mode before sending it to the stores.

Just a slap in the face to the customers
My sentiments exactly. I wonder if all those reviewers would be servicing the game and EA if they had plunk down $65 of their own hard-earned money for it, instead of receiving a complementary copy.
 
# 87 tril @ 07/22/11 10:28 PM
EA should patch the commentary/ play by play/color commentary. IMO this is EA's biggest misstep this year.
Other sports titles have spoiled us with above average commentary. when other developers set the bar, one shold try to match it or exceed it.. Other wise a solid title could wind up being just avaergae because of a subpar feature

,IMO this is what makes the game just average.

EA please dont do this to Madden also. the commentary better be robust, lively and above avaegae. There are enough stories and stats in the NFL to have commentary last several decades in the virtual sports franchise world.
 
# 88 BigRick47 @ 07/22/11 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicMan1315
In all honesty... I enjoy it alot more if I dont go online to forums and read about every little detail and problem with the game.. But after I do, I feel like not playing it. But if I dont read all the forums, then I love the game.
Ditto! I like to keep up to date on any info (patches/updates etc.) that is coming out, but the saying, "What you don't know won't hurt you" kinda rings true here as I would enjoy the game much more without knowing every little bug or quirk of the game before hand...I like to find them out on my own if AND when they should pop up.
 
# 89 ODogg @ 07/22/11 11:31 PM
fantastic game with major bugs, fix those and it could be legendary...
 
# 90 Elgin2311 @ 07/22/11 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JerseySuave4
When you don't add too much to a new game and then the stuff you do add doesn't work, they basically are stealing money.

They put out a completely flawed game that even looked just like last year's game, hyped up features that don't work properly and took everyone's money. Yes we aren't forced to buy the game but we were lied to because we were under the impression that these things were either fixed or worked.

The amount of bugs and glitches this game has is beyond ridiculous for them to consider this a final product ready for sale.

They have a TON of work to do for me to even consider buying the game next year.
I dont excuse the fact that the game has issues. But not once did I hear anyone say every feature was gonna work properly on release. Yes they never stated the that they didnt work, but like you said no one put a gun to your head and told you to buy. Your argument became ******** when you stated that the game looks the same. No offense to the mentally challanged.
 
# 91 GaryT531 @ 07/23/11 12:16 AM
will not consider buying this game until after a patch comes out and reading the feedback about it
 
# 92 Elgin2311 @ 07/23/11 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JerseySuave4
so you're honestly going to say that this game looks different than last year when many others have pointed that the game looks just like last year. Player models are the same, 3d grass is only noticeable on replays and lighting is the only real difference in the look of the game.

And did you really just excuse them by saying, "But not once did I hear anyone say every feature was gonna work properly on release."

Going back to someone's car analogy that'd be like a company hyping up a new sound system technology in the car and it not working correctly. Would you find that excuseable? Of course not so why should we excuse a video game company for hyping up features that don't work?

As others have stated, its to the point where we've become the testers for the game. We sat here and listened to Ben hype up their new features over and over and over and over and over again only to find out those new features don't even work right. But you seem to just want to give them a pass because its a decent game if you can see past the mass amount of bugs.
I can find just as many people to subjectivly agtee with me. What does someone elses pair of eyes work better than mine? Not arguing that the game has bugs, but going back to my previous post saying that im sure they will ne fixed. Its a 60$ game not this grand technological advancement eveyone is psyching themselves into. 60$ cmon man! Its a game and im just having a ball with it.
 
# 93 ps2king @ 07/23/11 12:28 AM
I'm watching from the sidelines this year. It's the first time I haven't purchased an NCAA game day since I was a kid. I've followed the chatter on these boards, and it's more than reinforced my decision to stay away. I came close to caving in a few times. But, eventually you see the same song and dance so often, you reach a breaking point. I may consider this years game after it's been properly patched. However, by that time it may be too late.
 
# 94 Armor and Sword @ 07/23/11 12:29 AM
I just finished playing 2 games in my current dynasty with Gator/Buckeye's roster.

Screw it. I am having too much fun and enjoying the game immensely.

When they patch it they patch it.

In this case ignorance is bliss as the game is a ton of fun and plays well despite some of the frame rate issues.


I am just going to stay out of the NCAA forums for a long while. Game is playing fine to me.
 
# 95 hoop xyience @ 07/23/11 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JerseySuave4
so you're honestly going to say that this game looks different than last year when many others have pointed that the game looks just like last year. Player models are the same, 3d grass is only noticeable on replays and lighting is the only real difference in the look of the game.

And did you really just excuse them by saying, "But not once did I hear anyone say every feature was gonna work properly on release."

Going back to someone's car analogy that'd be like a company hyping up a new sound system technology in the car and it not working correctly. Would you find that excuseable? Of course not so why should we excuse a video game company for hyping up features that don't work?

As others have stated, its to the point where we've become the testers for the game. We sat here and listened to Ben hype up their new features over and over and over and over and over again only to find out those new features don't even work right. But you seem to just want to give them a pass because its a decent game if you can see past the mass amount of bugs.
Its wierd how some people defend this game..giving it 8.5 and even higher...I actually read somewhere on this forum that NCAA 12 was better than NCAA 13 and that joint haven't even came out yet...lol

but I with you on that reply
 
# 96 Elgin2311 @ 07/23/11 12:50 AM
We have had other college football games, 2k had that trash they came ouy with. Honestly I havent experiemced said issues, so im sorry for your frustration. I feel the same way about madden not makimg changes to online franchise, but thats for another topic. Anyone want some meatloaf?
 
# 97 bkrich83 @ 07/23/11 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Armor & Sword
I just finished playing 2 games in my current dynasty with Gator/Buckeye's roster.

Screw it. I am having too much fun and enjoying the game immensely.

When they patch it they patch it.

In this case ignorance is bliss as the game is a ton of fun and plays well despite some of the frame rate issues.


I am just going to stay out of the NCAA forums for a long while. Game is playing fine to me.
Indeed. Same here. Besides the NCAA forums have just turned in to the same 5 guys repeating themselves with the same complaints and same hyperbole over and over again. A few of whom I dont even believe have the game. Which is a shame because they are drowning out the guys making actual points and actually trying to figure this out.
 
# 98 Elgin2311 @ 07/23/11 12:52 AM
Mom, THE MEATLOAF..............i never know what shes doing back there.
 
# 99 ChaseB @ 07/23/11 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LolitaTyroneJenkins
lol - no comment ok roundtable wink wink EA $$
I actually think this one would look rather fetching if it were changed into a pictograph. The english isn't quite there, but if it were done in pictures, it would then totally work.
 
# 100 DJ @ 07/23/11 01:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Armor & Sword
I just finished playing 2 games in my current dynasty with Gator/Buckeye's roster.

Screw it. I am having too much fun and enjoying the game immensely.

When they patch it they patch it.

In this case ignorance is bliss as the game is a ton of fun and plays well despite some of the frame rate issues.


I am just going to stay out of the NCAA forums for a long while. Game is playing fine to me.
I didn't even know about this bug until I read your post in MKHarsh33's slider thread where you mentioned something about having re-start using default rosters. I then ventured into the main NCAA forum hub and found 80-plus pages of comments.

I was having a good time with the game, both with default and named rosters. I understand that bugs pop up in these games. The thing that has me upset is all that there's the possibility that all the hard work the roster-makers put into giving us FREE rosters may be thrown out the window. I would feel real bad for those guys if that were the case. I'm hoping EA can fix the problem without forcing users to re-input 120 teams' worth of names/equipment, etc.

So yes, while I am slightly annoyed that this issue does exist, I am still enjoying the game.
 


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