03:01 PM - November 1, 2013 by jpdavis82QJB is back with a new video, this one looking at the new line play within Madden NFL 25 on next-gen consoles. If you can't see the video above, check it out on YouTube.
Madden NFL 25 News Post
03:01 PM - November 1, 2013 by jpdavis82Madden NFL 25 Videos
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That interview was the first interview (besides the 2k comparison and tourney 200K mention) that finally had some candor on the direction and how long it will take to get there. I was happy to hear the first part, simulation, but not so happy to hear it will take a few years to get some things that are badly needed.
At least we have a direction and a time frame to follow. If they can't adhere to that, I'm not the only one that will blow up.
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# 144
kjcheezhead @ 11/01/13 09:28 PM
Over all, when you pause on an image of the pocket, it forms nicely. But in motion, the players are still doing weird twists, and shifts. Watch 62 in the back. What kind of footwork is this? There is a ballerina in that man just begging to get out. Edit: The gif is too fast, watch the video at 37 sec to see what I mean.
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The wr/db interaction is horrible. Identical to current gen. The improved ai, players making 60 calculations a second is bs, plain and simple.
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Look at both the dbs. Mirroring the wrs routes, running behind and almost in front of the wrs instead of trying to get between the qb and the wr. Also, look at the play on the ball, the db warps in front of the wr and then swats at the ball while continuing to run towards the LOS. Horrible. It would look a lot more realistic if the db tried to hit the wrs arm as the ball gets there or just make the tackle cause no pee wee player would do what he did..
With the few videos we have gotten, why is the focus only on pass blocking? The AP vid had some promising moments of engaged players flowing with run plays? That's a potential game changer in the run game, why doesn't any one want to point that out? Is it still there?
One more thing I'll put my two cents in on. The sidelines look completely static and the fans are about as good as current NBA2k and the Show. Not something that is real important to me, but def some false advertising there imo.
GIFSoupThe wr/db interaction is horrible. Identical to current gen. The improved ai, players making 60 calculations a second is bs, plain and simple.
GIFSoupLook at both the dbs. Mirroring the wrs routes, running behind and almost in front of the wrs instead of trying to get between the qb and the wr. Also, look at the play on the ball, the db warps in front of the wr and then swats at the ball while continuing to run towards the LOS. Horrible. It would look a lot more realistic if the db tried to hit the wrs arm as the ball gets there or just make the tackle cause no pee wee player would do what he did..
With the few videos we have gotten, why is the focus only on pass blocking? The AP vid had some promising moments of engaged players flowing with run plays? That's a potential game changer in the run game, why doesn't any one want to point that out? Is it still there?
One more thing I'll put my two cents in on. The sidelines look completely static and the fans are about as good as current NBA2k and the Show. Not something that is real important to me, but def some false advertising there imo.
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Physics has been worked on for the last 2 yrs and will continually be worked on.
The days of putting in protak and taking it out the next year is gone, we were told.
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# 147
rootofalleli @ 11/01/13 09:34 PM
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Head to head play certainly has its flaws, but at least they affect all users more or less equally and don't prevent anyone from agreeing to play fairly. There still is a game there. Solo play is now "Compete with Yourself Mode" (32 team control) or "Beat Your Nephew at Checkers Mode" (vs CPU). That pretty much guts the experience.
Why madden keeps looking like a cartoon the graphics dont look next gen it looks like a small upgrade from cg .. When is madden going to look photo realistic?.. Thank god ea dont have exclusive nba rights because if they did we would of never known how good a nba game can look on next gen like nba 2k14 ..madden only gets away with this garbage because theres no other football games out ...madden would of fell like nba live if they didnt buy the exclusive license .. Do u guys remember when nba live was the most popular basketball game and 2k was the underdog? I do!!! I was i live junkie but 2k took over by making a better game then live every year .. They took it nobody gave 2k anything ..i say that to say this ea needs to step they game up if they want to take it back .. ,
It's like EA isn't even trying anymore. I'm not purchasing a port I did it once with Madden 06 and I vowed it would be the last time I ever did.
Last thing and then I'm out. Lol. It's probably difficult to decide what do work on from year to year. So many on here prioritize so many things. Some what 100% sim gameplay with realistic penalties ext. (I'm in that group) some want photo realistic uniforms and graphics, some want an extremely deep franchise, some want perfect online, some MUT, some crowds and atmosphere. Some want it all lol. The list goes on and on. This is what I get when I read comments. We all have different opinions of what the perfect football game is and we want Madden make that game for all of us. Can anyone do that? Ha ha
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kjcheezhead @ 11/01/13 09:45 PM
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Answer this question now please.
Who here is a 2k fanboy and what makes them that? What evidence do you have to prove that? Is is possible that people just want a good game of football or is that too much?
It's okay that you like the game. But making blanket statements like this is not going to fly here.
Please justify your accusations.
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kjcheezhead @ 11/01/13 09:52 PM
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# 156
Jet Sufferer @ 11/01/13 09:57 PM
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If Madden was good it could theoretically sell 10 million no problem. This once proud, beloved franchise now only survives because of it's exclusive NFL license.
If this game had to compete in an open market it would be lucky to crack a million or two from the die hards and name recognition. Then again with competition I doubt the game would be in the state it's been in the past 9 years. Sad, sad but true.
5 million units a year is not a success for the only NFL game on the market, it's a massive failure, whether it's profitable or not.
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I never once in my life played 2k but have been accused of being a 2k fanboy lol.
It's funny how these are supposedly "gameplay" videos when they are still zoomed replay footage.
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In this thread, you accused some of being 2k fanboys. That's not an opinion but an accusation. Please prove it.
In the other thread, you appear to have no idea how players should be responding on the sideline and are clearly wrong yet you refuse to respond to me.
You can respond again with a GIF if you would like, but I assure you that you won't last here much longer if you do.
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