Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - War in the Trenches & Passing Pockets (QJB)

[jbd345]

It's funny how these are supposedly "gameplay" videos when they are still zoomed replay footage.

[charter04]

Quote: Originally Posted by dat swag

Bro...if they put more penalties and bad snaps in the game...people will complain like no end...Plus anytime a sports videogame tries to implement these random sort of things it never works...I recall when Madden was riddled with PI calls to the point that all dudes would do is throw it up and get a PI...Now its almost the exact opposite...I never see them...occassionally in H2H...I just think its too difficult to implement a balance for when these things happen. I mean how do they determine when a bad snap happens...Purely by numbers, NFL ratios?...I would be pissed to find out that some formula was in the game to cause every 33rd snap to be bad...I even think when interviewed a Dev mentioned something to the effect of having the CPU take over in that instance would cause more harm than good for those of us who play the game. You can't hold Madden to a standard that no sports sim is doing...In the Show I have not sen any bean balls by the CPU...In 2k14 I don't think the CPU commits random hard fouls or gets technicals or plays Hack-a-Dwight. No sports game has been able to go completely organic...I don't think we are there yet...Its gonna be a while or more.

Great post. What I would say to that is just have a simulation option for guys who want all that. You could still have a head to head option that makes it less sim. And I hope no one uses 2k basketball's "Sim" option as an example of this done right. Lol. I've played it on 2K13 with that as my style and it wasn't too sim to me .

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by dat swag

How do you prove an opinion?

I never asked you to prove an opinion????

In this thread, you accused some of being 2k fanboys. That's not an opinion but an accusation. Please prove it.

In the other thread, you appear to have no idea how players should be responding on the sideline and are clearly wrong yet you refuse to respond to me.

You can respond again with a GIF if you would like, but I assure you that you won't last here much longer if you do.

[Steven78]

Quote: Originally Posted by dat swag

Bro...if they put more penalties and bad snaps in the game...people will complain like no end...Plus anytime a sports videogame tries to implement these random sort of things it never works...I recall when Madden was riddled with PI calls to the point that all dudes would do is throw it up and get a PI...Now its almost the exact opposite...I never see them...occassionally in H2H...I just think its too difficult to implement a balance for when these things happen. I mean how do they determine when a bad snap happens...Purely by numbers, NFL ratios?...I would be pissed to find out that some formula was in the game to cause every 33rd snap to be bad...I even think when interviewed a Dev mentioned something to the effect of having the CPU take over in that instance would cause more harm than good for those of us who play the game. You can't hold Madden to a standard that no sports sim is doing...In the Show I have not sen any bean balls by the CPU...In 2k14 I don't think the CPU commits random hard fouls or gets technicals or plays Hack-a-Dwight. No sports game has been able to go completely organic...I don't think we are there yet...Its gonna be a while or more.

There are no errors in MLB The Show?

Oh, and hate to break it to you, but the CPU does hit batters in The Show at times.

[royounggoku]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

It's really sad that after how many years people have resorted to that debate again as their only resort. I never once in my life played 2k but have been accused of being a 2k fanboy lol.

You should give 2k8 a try, gameplay was great. Should be fairly cheap too.

[ocat]

Don't expect anything to be changed/cleaned up. According to Vic Lugo, the game was finished over a month ago

[charter04]

Quote: Originally Posted by Steven78

There are no errors in MLB The Show?

He didn't say that. An error is more like a dropped pass.

[kjcheezhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by dat swag

Bro...if they put more penalties and bad snaps in the game...people will complain like no end...Plus anytime a sports videogame tries to implement these random sort of things it never works...I recall when Madden was riddled with PI calls to the point that all dudes would do is throw it up and get a PI...Now its almost the exact opposite...I never see them...occassionally in H2H...I just think its too difficult to implement a balance for when these things happen. I mean how do they determine when a bad snap happens...Purely by numbers, NFL ratios?...I would be pissed to find out that some formula was in the game to cause every 33rd snap to be bad...I even think when interviewed a Dev mentioned something to the effect of having the CPU take over in that instance would cause more harm than good for those of us who play the game. You can't hold Madden to a standard that no sports sim is doing...In the Show I have not sen any bean balls by the CPU...In 2k14 I don't think the CPU commits random hard fouls or gets technicals or plays Hack-a-Dwight. No sports game has been able to go completely organic...I don't think we are there yet...Its gonna be a while or more.

How do you think, false starts and face masks occur now? It's a random occurence. The problem is H2H, tourney guys want control over every aspect of the game. They want Madden ball money plays where they can "lab" and get the game down so if they hit Y at the right time, every time, the same thing will happen every time. Or set up a nano blitz that can't be blocked.

I didn't start playing 2k until current gen because I was a Madden fan on the ps2, but I can't bring up APF2k8 to you because that would make me a "fanboy" but that game successfully implemented bad snaps and penalties into their game. So I'll just say it can be done and leave it at that.

I just want an organic game, that has players move realistically and isn't stale and predictable. The fans that EA caters to now just want predictable. That's why they are dealing with so much negativity these days.