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07:32 PM - May 31, 2012 by Steve_OS

On June 4th at 10:00 PM EST, make sure you tune into SpikeTV's E3 coverage.

According to the latest Ronnie2K tweets, they will showcase an NBA 2K13 gameplay video featuring the San Antonio Spurs and Oklahoma City Thunder. They will also show us the new downloadable NBA All-Star content package presented by Sprite.

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# 481 RyanFitzmagic @ 06/07/12 06:57 PM

But that's also not true to an extent...

Watch this:

Notice how Blake Griffin puts his body on Monta Ellis, but GRIFFIN is the one who ends up going backwards. It's basic physics. The momentum is with the ballhandler-- he's moving forward, and the defender is either retreating or moving sideways. Thus, the ballhandler (Ellis) exerts greater force, allowing him to move someone much bigger and stronger than he is (Griffin).

# 482 jersez @ 06/07/12 07:03 PM

Blake Griffin rode monta ellis. Notice how he stopped Monta and made him pick up his dribble, because of his strength. I said it should play a part not that every stronger player can defend a quicker or light player. Because that's not true. Tony parker can push LEbron back in 2k, that should never happen. The reason why Monta was able to push Blake back was because he was LOWER than him.

# 483 Slava Medvadenko @ 06/07/12 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Beluba


	The up and unders (aka flick flicks) are now interruptible. So if you read it properly you can force the "under" into contact.

Awesome to hear. Also, if you have your hands up and are not moving when you contact them it shouldn't be a foul(most of the time).

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Originally Posted by Beluba


	yeah i don't work on tendencies, but i'll take care of this one tomorrow. how often do you want to see the guys with the highest tendencies use the up and unders?

It should be very difficult to do a scoop layup from the free throw line. I've seen the AI do up and unders from 15 feet out. Most of the time it should be a pump fake and jump shot from that area.

# 484 RyanFitzmagic @ 06/07/12 07:09 PM

But at the end of the day, the strength difference between Ellis/Griffin is roughly the same as Parker/LeBron. If that exact situation that I just showed happened with Parker and LeBron, and LeBron was the defender and got moved back like that, I wouldn't mind.

But at the same time, I've definitely seen ballhandlers stopped dead in their tracks by a sliding defender, so it should go both ways.

"Like a bisexual."

# 485 RyanFitzmagic @ 06/07/12 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Slava Medvadenko


	if you have your hands up and are not moving when you contact them it shouldn't be a foul(most of the time)

Referees in real life call fouls in this situation a lot. I realize you said they shouldn't call it "most of the time," but for the sake of realism, it should honestly be 50/50 or so.

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Originally Posted by Slava Medvadenko


	It should be very difficult to do a scoop layup from the free throw line. I've seen the AI do up and unders from 15 feet out. Most of the time it should be a pump fake and jump shot from that area.

I definitely agree with this, though.

# 486 jersez @ 06/07/12 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic


	But at the end of the day, the strength difference between Ellis/Griffin is roughly the same as Parker/LeBron. If that exact situation that I just showed happened with Parker and LeBron, and LeBron was the defender and got moved back like that, I wouldn't mind. But at the same time, I've definitely seen ballhandlers stopped dead in their tracks by a sliding defender, so it should go both ways. "Like a bisexual."

2k needs to make the difference between speed and strength realistic. Idk if they can do it in 2k13 I kinda doubt it because they don't really have a physics system or a foot planting system that is realistic.

# 487 RyanFitzmagic @ 06/07/12 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jersez


	Hahaha, 2k needs to make the difference between speed and strength realistic. Idk if they can do it in 2k13 I kinda doubt it because they don't really have a physics system or a foot planting system that is realistic.

I don't get what you're saying. Obviously, the physics of a clash between two players isn't solely based on their individual speed/strength, as you saw with Ellis/Griffin.

# 488 Slava Medvadenko @ 06/07/12 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic


	Referees in real life call fouls in this situation a lot. I realize you said they shouldn't call it "most of the time," but for the sake of realism, it should honestly be 50/50 or so. I definitely agree with this, though.

Agreed, you should get called for it if you're, say, under the half circle and there is a lot of contact. I don't know about 50/50, though. The up and under ability of the player should have something to do with the percentage of foul calls he gets. They tend to call it more for guys who know how to do it.

# 489 RyanFitzmagic @ 06/07/12 07:21 PM

No, I think the last thing we need is for the referees to literally favor players in the game. It should simply be based on a percentage of likelihood that the call would be made in real life for the average player based on the amount of contact created between the two players.

# 490 Slava Medvadenko @ 06/07/12 07:25 PM

What I meant was Kobe would know how to draw a foul better than another guy, but yeah they shouldn't favor players. I don't really know how they could implement 'drawing foul skill', so it should be based on the amount of contact. But no touch fouls like there were in 2k12.

# 491 silverskier @ 06/07/12 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Slava Medvadenko


	Agreed, you should get called for it if you're, say, under the half circle and there is a lot of contact. I don't know about 50/50, though. The up and under ability of the player should have something to do with the percentage of foul calls he gets. They tend to call it more for guys who know how to do it.

Right now, the up and under is glitched, there is no contact nearly all the times and when it happens to be, it is called the 85% of the times as a fault. If you don't move almost anything, it must not be a fault in my opinion, if you are not under the semicircle as you say, of course. Sry for my bad english, :]

# 492 RyanFitzmagic @ 06/07/12 07:27 PM

But there's no way to represent a player's ability to draw fouls in the game except for allowing the player to recklessly drive and hope for a foul call. There's no possible mechanic that can be inserted that allows a user to take advantage of a player's ability to draw fouls, so referees should be almost totally neutral.

# 493 thaone08 @ 06/07/12 07:57 PM

OK so it's safe to say allstar weekend will be in Association (offline one) and Myplayer right

# 494 RyanFitzmagic @ 06/07/12 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by thaone08


	OK so it's safe to say allstar weekend will be in Association (offline one) and Myplayer right

Yes, if you pre-order the game. People have been saying this all over the board for a couple days now.

# 495 jersez @ 06/07/12 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic


	I don't get what you're saying. Obviously, the physics of a clash between two players isn't solely based on their individual speed/strength, as you saw with Ellis/Griffin.

I've already stated this, No way tony parker can push lebron, as in 2k were no matter the size or stregnth of a player they are able to do that bump animation. I never said strength and speed are the only way to get around someone. But they are a FACTOR of course user reaction and skill should be the hugest part of isomotion vs on ball defense. like I said before the only reason why monta was able to push Blake back that far was because he was lower. Even then he didn't get a lot of space, because of Griffins strength. Momentum, strength, and quickness need to play a factor in driving to the hoop. Thats all I have to say about this topic.

# 496 RyanFitzmagic @ 06/07/12 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jersez


	the only reason why monta was able to push Blake back that far was because he was lower

I don't necessarily agree with this, but if that is the case, why can't Parker do the same to LeBron James?

# 497 Paul Pierce_OS @ 06/07/12 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic


	I don't necessarily agree with this, but if that is the case, why can't Parker do the same to LeBron James?

Blake is no where as near as strong as Lebron.

# 498 jersez @ 06/07/12 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic


	I don't necessarily agree with this, but if that is the case, why can't Parker do the same to LeBron James?

Just nevermind I'm not arguing anymore smh. I shouldn't have to explain why being lower he was able to knock Blake back a little bit. Basic Basketball fundamentals. I mean anyone that went to a decent camp or played for a elementary school can tell you. Its the same reason in football the lower man is stronger, quicker, and has better balance. When Monta lowered his shoulder, he lost his balance, and lost his momentum because of Griffin's strength, even though he was lower than him. When you stand straight up its easier to knock you off balance, but if your low its harder to know you off balance. That's what I was saying strength momentum and quickness should play a part in getting to the hoop. I don't even know if I can explain it any better than that. IF you don't understand what I'm saying then fine, just keep the thread on topic.

# 499 RyanFitzmagic @ 06/07/12 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jersez


	Just nevermind I'm not arguing anymore smh. I shouldn't have to explain why being lower he was able to knock Blake back a little bit. Basic Basketball fundamentals. I mean anyone that went to a decent camp or played for a elementary school can tell you. Its the same reason in football the lower man is stronger, quicker, and has better balance. When Monta lowered his shoulder, he lost his balance, and lost his momentum because of Griffin's strength, even though he was lower than him. When you stand straight up its easier to knock you off balance, but if your low its harder to know you off balance. That's what I was saying strength momentum and quickness should play a part in getting to the hoop. I don't even know if I can explain it any better than that. IF you don't understand what I'm saying then fine, just keep the thread on topic.

I don't know why you're gettin all pissy like I offended you or somethin. Chill out. You're not even understanding what I'm asking; you're too busy catchin feelings because I'm not completely accepting what you say as irrefutable fact.

Now again, explain to me why Parker can't do that to LeBron if Monta Ellis can do it to Blake Griffin.

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Originally Posted by Paul Pierce


	Blake is no where as near as strong as Lebron.

Even if that WAS true, which I'm not sure it is, Parker might be stronger than Ellis anyway.

# 500 thaone08 @ 06/07/12 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic


	I don't necessarily agree with this, but if that is the case, why can't Parker do the same to LeBron James?

Just got home and couldn't see it on my phone my bad, operation sports is not good on mobile, never load all the way or refresh

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