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On June 4th at 10:00 PM EST, make sure you tune into SpikeTV's E3 coverage.

According to the latest Ronnie2K tweets, they will showcase an NBA 2K13 gameplay video featuring the San Antonio Spurs and Oklahoma City Thunder. They will also show us the new downloadable NBA All-Star content package presented by Sprite.

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# 461 morningstar777 @ 06/07/12 02:34 PM
I really can't believe there is a 3+ page discussion on up & unders, we might not even see it in the game.
 
# 462 kolanji @ 06/07/12 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VDusen04
Right, what we're saying is in NBA 2K, up-and-under tendency is not referring to double-clutch or double-pump mid-air shots. It's only referring to the traditional McHale version, because that's what up-and-under means here in terms of basketball diction (and most elsewhere).

With respect, it seems you are making sweeping generalizations of the knowledge of other posters because their terminology differs from yours, or because you assume they have not played at a level as high as yours. In fact, the NBA is one of the few outlets in the United States that does not allow all forms of zone defense. Both college and high school basketball in the US allow all forms of zone, just as your region does, so to make an assumption that all Americans must be poor shooters because you believe there not to be zone defenses is relatively short-sighted.

Finally, regarding the youth basketball link, I wouldn't call that a particularly reliable website. It could have just as well been thrown together by you or me. That is literally the only other place in my life I've seen a double-pump layup referred to as an up-and-under. It is by no means a norm here.

Anyway, to get to the point, knowing what we're referring to by "up-and-under" (a pump fake, pivot and shot a la Kevin McHale) how frequent do you believe it should occur during a game in 2K13 for a player with 99 tendency?
ok cool i think u misconstrue my post i mean no offense to u guys and am definitely not insinuating that we r better shooters nor did i try to eject me playing ball gives me leverage to try and replace nobody opinion or understanding with my own..i was just sharing mine..is this not what OS is about? sharing about sports and sports video games...again my apologies if anybody i mean anybody was offended by my post


to answer ur question i think that is not how often the AI does it to me with a rating of 99...but a matter of WHO does it and whether or not a defensive tool is properly in place to stop and balance the offensive/defensive game come nba 2k13....but i do think that blocking/charging needs to be addressed first cause positioning is critical in stopping moves of this nature properly


edit: oh and my link was not to say i was right but just to show that its not my sole injections of what and up and under is but just to show that Belize is not alone nor am i when i just try to enlighten u of why or how come i have derived to the point of reference to my understanding of what it is....u say tom-a-to i say tom-ahh-to
 
# 463 VDusen04 @ 06/07/12 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kolanji
to answer ur question i think that is not how often the AI does it to me with a rating of 99...but a matter of WHO does it and whether or not a defensive tool is properly in place to stop and balance the offensive/defensive game come nba 2k13....but i do think that blocking/charging needs to be addressed first cause positioning is critical in stopping moves of this nature properly
A lot of true points there, particularly regarding the blocking and charges. Regarding the up-and-unders though, I have trouble even answering the question myself (the one originally posed by Beluba). I think it was mentioned the up-and-under would be interrupt-able this year, which is a great start. So I guess now my question would be, who should be doing up-and-unders and at that point, how often should they be doing them? In 2K12 it seems many guards use the stop, pump-fake, pivot, and step-through as their primary mode of attack on a dribble drive.
 
# 464 RyanFitzmagic @ 06/07/12 03:04 PM
As I said before, with a 99 tendency, they should be doing it basically every time they touch the ball or attempt a shot. It's always good to have the highest setting be TOO high so then we can find a middle ground much more easily.
 
# 465 B-Wills @ 06/07/12 03:07 PM
Guitar Hero controls? Really 2k?

Everything else looks good though, I know this is an early build and I'm positive 2k won't disappoint with the gameplay aspect. Don't know what's goin on with the dunk contest though lol
 
# 466 kolanji @ 06/07/12 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by VDusen04
A lot of true points there, particularly regarding the blocking and charges. Regarding the up-and-underst though, I have trouble even answering the question myself (the one originally posed by Beluba). I think it was mentioned the up-and-under would be interrupt-able this year, which is a great start. So I guess now my question would be, who should be doing up-and-unders and at that point, how often should they be doing them? In 2K12 it seems many guards use the stop, pump-fake, pivot, and step-through as their primary mode of attack on a dribble drive.
100% with u on that post
defense really took a hit outside post up defending, hard to stay in front of a player on the perimeter,so i see why 2k had the bump back animations a lot in previous versions of nba 2k
how often should they do them?u ponder ...am thinking the same thing but i also dont mind seeing from guy who love doing it often in a game as long as u have to chance to defend it properly...but now if i see Perkins doing it or Joel Anthony then that will annoy the hell outta me
 
# 467 kolanji @ 06/07/12 03:41 PM
http://www.twitch.tv/2K interview with Erick Boenisch on now

edit:its over now
 
# 468 jersez @ 06/07/12 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kolanji
http://www.twitch.tv/2K interview with Erick Boenisch on now

edit:its over now
Will it be replayed?
 
# 469 kolanji @ 06/07/12 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jersez
Will it be replayed?
not sure but u should just keep the page open was a good interview witn ronnie and Boenisch
 
# 470 LD2k @ 06/07/12 04:13 PM
Trying to pull down the individual interview segments for you guys. You can re-watch them after the stream ends today (and anytime after that) as your leisure. http://www.twitch.tv/2k
 
# 471 kolanji @ 06/07/12 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LD2k
Trying to pull down the individual interview segments for you guys. You can re-watch them after the stream ends today (and anytime after that) as your leisure. http://www.twitch.tv/2k
thanks that would be awesome for guy on here who missed it or for ppl who just wanna see it again
 
# 472 Goffs @ 06/07/12 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LD2k
Trying to pull down the individual interview segments for you guys. You can re-watch them after the stream ends today (and anytime after that) as your leisure. http://www.twitch.tv/2k
Age restriction? ah well Jan 1, 1896 Woooo!
 
# 473 silverskier @ 06/07/12 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jersez
@Beluba can you please bring the driving animation back, I know you said you fixed the contact, but I think this is much more realistic than the bumping. Also the animations that makes the ball handler pick up their dribble should be expand upon.

This is the driving animation I mean.
I think that a combination of these driving animations and the bumping will be the best!
 
# 474 jersez @ 06/07/12 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by silverskier
I think that a combination of these driving animations and the bumping will be the best!
I have no idea why they got rid of that driving animation, I also think strength should play a part in the driving animation. A guy like Lebron crossovers are slow, for the most part. The way he gets past his defender is because he is stronger than him. Of course you can counter that by trying to shade him and steering him into traps. Guys like d.rose are so fast that you can't really stay in front us. So by "riding" him takes away some of his quickness. I just really want to see strength and quickness play a part in isomotion and on ball d.
 
# 475 RyanFitzmagic @ 06/07/12 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jersez
I have no idea why they got rid of that driving animation, I also think strength should play a part in the driving animation. A guy like Lebron crossovers are slow, for the most part. The way he gets past his defender is because he is stronger than him. Of course you can counter that by trying to shade him and steering him into traps. Guys like d.rose are so fast that you can't really stay in front us. So by "riding" him takes away some of his quickness. I just really want to see strength and quickness play a part in isomotion and on ball d.
LeBron's strength isn't really a factor on the perimeter. He gets past people for two reasons (which apply to everyone):

1. Attempting to cut off a ballhandler in one direction (i.e., bumping him on an attempted drive) is dangerous because he can easily change direction, and now he has an angle on you and you're out of position, and

2. It's not worth it to attempt to body up a ballhandler and possibly be called for a foul

Even the best defenders usually don't try to stay perfectly in front of a ballhandler-- that's how you get crossed. They just try to make the ballhandler take the angle that the defender wants them to take.

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Here's a great example:



Tim Duncan is perfectly squared up with CP3 when Paul gets past the first defender. Duncan may be old, but he's still a professional athlete and has a distinct size advantage on Paul. If Duncan wanted to, I bet you he could have made an attempt to slide his feet and stay in front of Paul. Instead, he turns his hips and simply allows Paul to take an angle that still allows Duncan to contest.

Obviously, as you can see, using this defensive strategy properly doesn't always result in success, but it's still there and it's what NBA players do. They don't try to bully players on the perimeter, even when there's an opportunity to do so.
 
# 476 jersez @ 06/07/12 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic
LeBron's strength isn't really a factor on the perimeter. He gets past people for two reasons (which apply to everyone):

1. Attempting to cut off a ballhandler in one direction (i.e., bumping him on an attempted drive) is dangerous because he can easily change direction, and now he has an angle on you and you're out of position, and

2. It's not worth it to attempt to body up a ballhandler and possibly be called for a foul

Even the best defenders usually don't try to stay perfectly in front of a ballhandler-- that's how you get crossed. They just try to make the ballhandler take the angle that the defender wants them to take.
Strength is very important in driving and finishing.I don't want to get into a argument, But you can defiantly get past a defender just by lowering your shoulders and attacking their hip. They need to bring shading back and make it work. I didn't say body up I said "ride" that's two different things. I also asked Mike if they fix the momentum but he never answered. That example cp3 is lower than Tim duncan and has a quickness advantage. Again being low gives you an advantage. Some times.
 
# 477 RyanFitzmagic @ 06/07/12 05:41 PM
LeBron isn't bulldozing people at the three-point line-- that's my point. Once he gets close to/in the paint, then his strength becomes a factor. But he's definitely not trucking people to get to the basket from 25 feet away.
 
# 478 jersez @ 06/07/12 05:47 PM
Look at how lebron uses his strength, quickness and length the affect his opponents shots.

My point is I'm not saying he is bulldozing, "riding" riding is not the same as bodying the ball handler this thread has already been through the whole argument. So this is just an example that I hope one day 2k can replicate. Again I what I'm saying is not the same-thing you are saying.
 
# 479 RyanFitzmagic @ 06/07/12 05:49 PM
You said that LeBron uses his strength to get to the basket as a ballhandler...
 
# 480 jersez @ 06/07/12 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic
You said that LeBron uses his strength to get to the basket as a ballhandler...
And I also said strength should play a part in getting to the rim. So that's why I used that video.
 


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