Hmmm...I haven't noticed that. I threw a regular left jab, right cross combo with Tyson and it one punch KOed Ali, and I've landed several power modified punches that had impact but didn't stun or KO my opponent. Very rarely I've tried to use them too much and have felt the stamina drain, or seen my opponent use them too much and they slow to a crawl.
Okay. Then I guess I just suck. I'll have to keep learning and trying. Thanks Jaybee.
Okay. Then I guess I just suck. I'll have to keep learning and trying. Thanks Jaybee.
Money, this is pretty much the mindset you need to have.
Regular punches take a "toll" on a fighter. They are the punches you use to SETUP your big shots. Another words don't go in throwing nothing but modified power shots. You will QUICKLY drain your stamina. Punch accuracy is tied to stamina so as you get tired more your punches miss more. So what you want to do is land those quick punch combos. Jab, jab, straight. Then out of no where when you see the opening you land the same combo but with POWER this time. Jab, jab, Power modified Straight. This will conserve energy and will also do big damage over time.
Modified punches score better in the judges eyes. (another reason people can be losing on the cards when they think they are winning. Power shots score higher) Also power shots are the shots that "stun" opponents and also "KO" opponents.
They are not punches you want to throw non-stop but ones you want to link into combos.
I have a video I am uploading today of me SLAUGHTERING a Tyson with Ali. I am hitting him with EVERYTHING, power shots, regular shots, brutal combos, etc. Tyson won't go down. So who ever said Tyson chin is to weak........I beg to differ I got video proof of his tough chin
I really think it's only coming down to punches thrown, which is ridiculous.
I've had the same situations happen and the guy that's thrown more punches always seems to get the decision, assuming one guy doesn't score any knockdowns.
I disagree....albeit only two fight...I have been outthrown 2:1; but have won every round....i land about 70% and they land about 40-45%.....i feel their connect could be even lower if I fought more defensively.
I'll probably destroy utexas in this manner today to prove my point.
I am uploading the Ali vs Tyson destruction right now. But being how long it is. It takes couple hours for it to render, then hour or so for youtube to upload it. So it is coming. Just a heads up guys
The demo is growing on me the more i play, i finally managed to KO Cotto in the 3rd with Manny (flash KO).
I'm still having some problems with the stick as i'm too used to FN4 and in fact i still think i had more control in FN4 and i throw punches that i don't want to in FNC, with having all the punches that close with little movement differences in the stick.
Checking my stats against Cotto in this fight, i see we are more or less equal in all kind of punches thrown (even same 99 to 99 jabs) but there is something that showed me fast how i'm not used to the new stick, i threw 73 right hooks!!!
I got stunned (and eventually knocked down) as Aluminum Mike w/ a normal jab in the first round by Ali online. No counter, no power (I know this because he didn't throw a single power shot all match, and did not land a counter either).
I then proceeded to counter him 14 times over the remaining 2.5 rounds, land 40 power shots, land 65% of my punches to 40%, and not win a single judge (neither player was stunned after the initial one).
I can live with me being stunned and not stunning Ali (even though I landed FAR more big clean shots. That annoys me, but it happens). However, the fact that I still couldn't win even a single judge in the remaining 2 rounds was atrocious. Online needs draws
I don't even know if stunning an opponent factors in to the judges decisions. In the last deciding round of a fight I out percentaged a guy 70%-45%, outlanded him by 15,and lost, maybe because he outcountered me 9-1.
Checking my stats against Cotto in this fight, i see we are more or less equal in all kind of punches thrown (even same 99 to 99 jabs) but there is something that showed me fast how i'm not used to the new stick, i threw 73 right hooks!!!
The right cross (right straight) will turn into a right hook if you're not far enough away to fully extend the arm. It's not your input, it's your spacing.
...I'm still having some problems with the stick as i'm too used to FN4 and in fact i still think i had more control in FN4 and i throw punches that i don't want to in FNC, with having all the punches that close with little movement differences in the stick....
This right here! I just haven't been able to mentally unwrap myself from the FNR4 controls. In FNC I'm throwing jabs and/or hooks when I try to block because I'm trying to cover my head still. I think once I can get past the simplicity of the new controls I will begin to enjoy this much more.
This right here! I just haven't been able to mentally unwrap myself from the FNR4 controls. In FNC I'm throwing jabs and/or hooks when I try to block because I'm trying to cover my head still. I think once I can get past the simplicity of the new controls I will begin to enjoy this much more.
The right cross (right straight) will turn into a right hook if you're not far enough away to fully extend the arm. It's not your input, it's your spacing.
I'm glad you brought that up. Last night I threw a left-jab to the body and it turned into a hook. I eventually figured out why and I loved it. Great stuff!
Now will they please release more info on Legacy mode??? I want to hear some of the fixes they've done in the past 2 years.
I'm glad you brought that up. Last night I threw a left-jab to the body and it turned into a hook. I eventually figured out why and I loved it. Great stuff!
Now will they please release more info on Legacy mode??? I want to hear some of the fixes they've done in the past 2 years.
With the way the demo is now. I can honestly say I am SOOOOO pumped for Legacy mode. I will enjoy each and every fighter I face through my career. Lets just hope each fighter has his own style and makes fighting each one feel unique
I got stunned (and eventually knocked down) as Aluminum Mike w/ a normal jab in the first round by Ali online. No counter, no power (I know this because he didn't throw a single power shot all match, and did not land a counter either).
I then proceeded to counter him 14 times over the remaining 2.5 rounds, land 40 power shots, land 65% of my punches to 40%, and not win a single judge (neither player was stunned after the initial one).
I can live with me being stunned and not stunning Ali (even though I landed FAR more big clean shots. That annoys me, but it happens). However, the fact that I still couldn't win even a single judge in the remaining 2 rounds was atrocious. Online needs draws
I've had at least 2 draws online soo the feature is definitely in the demo.
Okay, I'm in the middle of a strange relationship with this game.
A few nights ago when I encountered that 500+ punch guy, I totally soured on the game. Since then though, I've gotten better and taken on the idea to just box. I was already doing that before, but at times I allowed myself to get caught up in a slugfest. Even though the footwork isn't where it should be, I've noticed the game really rewards you for playing sim, picking your spots, and not using bad fundamentals (not moving your head, not getting in and out, etc).
Last night I played 4 fights online. I got dropped twice in one fight using Cotto against Pacquiao and actually enjoyed it. I wish we could save replays because the second knockdown was a left hand square on the middle of Cotto's face and it was hilarious.
*Side note on that fight: The guy's GT was Eman (there were also some numbers) and I swear we have an Eman on OS. If you're out there, I want a rematch.
Also, I picked apart an Ali user with Tyson and made him whiff on a ton of punches because I kept getting inside, doing work, then getting out quickly. I eventually wore him out and took advantage when he was fatigued and dropped him with a nice jab, right body hook, left hook to the temple combo. It felt pretty damn satisfying.
So I might have been a little wrong on the fatigue/stamina, but I think what happened with the 500 punch guy was that he was landing a lot of shots, so that didn't affect his stamina nearly as much as it would have if he would have missed more. Also, and maybe it's because it's a 3 round fight, I feel stamina might recharge too quickly. I guess we'll see when the full game comes out.
The scoring really needs work. A round I should have won anyway wasn't given to me even though I stunned the guy.
Does hurting your opponent have any weight in the scoring?
Someone mentioned this earlier, but I don't think you can get a draw online. I thought I did early on, but I think it might have been from an exhibition fight. There have been a handful of cases where I clearly won 2 rounds, but had one 10-8 against me, and when it went to decision, instead of a draw, the judges gave that first round that I CLEARLY won to the other guy to prevent a draw.
With the way the demo is now. I can honestly say I am SOOOOO pumped for Legacy mode. I will enjoy each and every fighter I face through my career. Lets just hope each fighter has his own style and makes fighting each one feel unique
I also hope the cpu chills out a touch. I wouldn't be getting these punch totals in the demo if the cpu wasn't forcing it. Ali moving in on me constantly and pretty much forcing me to throw punches. There doesn't seem to be any in and out, or at least any in and out without commiting to actually throwing punches by the cpu. My punch total are always lower than the cpu, but higher than they would be normally because of their pressure.
Okay. Then I guess I just suck. I'll have to keep learning and trying. Thanks Jaybee.
I do think that the cpu gets a power boost. I mean how many times have I dropped my opponent vs them dropping me? probably 10-3 and my %;s and power shots etc. are all close to the same and greater.
I hope career doesn't do that. In boxing games of past to win in the later stages of your career you had to be 3X as good to win instead of just winning. I want a left hook that puts people in a bodybag, no one that I have to land as many as their jabs just to squeak out a decision where I was about to fold.