06:39 AM - February 1, 2011 by Steve_OS
The Fight Night Champion demo is available now for the 360 and later tonight (roughly 9 P.M. EST) for the PS3. Please post your impressions here.
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06:39 AM - February 1, 2011 by Steve_OSThe Fight Night Champion demo is available now for the 360 and later tonight (roughly 9 P.M. EST) for the PS3. Please post your impressions here.
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While there are legitimate concerns and even gripes, you have to look at the game in its context. Comparing it to the last two iterations will prove that the title has certainly made progress. I played FN4 for a solid 16 months and was extremely frustrated with its fatigue system. This demo shows me that's most likely fixed.
Even with blocking, you can see why they did what they did. It was extremely difficult to block in FN4 without it looking twitchy and just not working. Now you can block when hitting the right timing and you penetrate when using strategy.
For whatever reason, we think this idea of creating these complex controls is more "sim." I say if the controls, while they may be simplified, gives the best results, so be it.
Even with blocking, you can see why they did what they did. It was extremely difficult to block in FN4 without it looking twitchy and just not working. Now you can block when hitting the right timing and you penetrate when using strategy.
For whatever reason, we think this idea of creating these complex controls is more "sim." I say if the controls, while they may be simplified, gives the best results, so be it.
Interesting scoring sometimes. I lost a fight because they gave Tyson (my opponent) the first even though I outpunched him 35-23, and outpercetaged him 35-67 (52%)-23-91 (25%). I had the edge in power punches (non-jabs not power modified) 22-21.
No stuns in that round either.
No stuns in that round either.
The ONLY TRUE auto block feature was in KO Kings 2001...go check it out...there was an option.There ain't nothin' automatic when it comes to blocking in FNC...like JB said, you STILL have to push the button folks.
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DickDalewood @ 02/03/11 10:56 AM
Wow, the speed of this game over the last alone is amazing. I'll definitely pick this up.
I still think they need to tweak punches that land so that more stamina gets drained. It's still borderline easy to trap guys and pound away. I don't see it happening all fight but there's too much of a difference in a punch that hits and one that doesn't (stamina).
How can we really expect developers to continue putting out excellent games like FNC if many in the genral population can not comprehend how to accurately play a game and what makes it great. I am losing all faith in the game industry, not because of the developers, because of the GAMERS. This is a great product. Even if this demo was all that was offered I probably would barely touch anything else, it is that good. Please people, just learn how to play, give it the time or go pick up some other game. I would dare anyone to try and turn a match into a slugfest with me or block the whole time and see what happens. This is more true to the sport then madden, NHL, or 2k, when it comes to gameplay. 1 button block that can't be exploited is a huge problem but canned dribble animations for certain anlog movements isn't, give me freakin break. To EA, there are some of us that really appreciate this game, it is excellent, and I commend you for your hard work. I am sure that if the majority really understood the sport and the fighters and gave themselves time to improve they would not be dissapointed, I really hope the numbers are through the roof for this game to reward its excellence.
Pacquiao's straight left hand with the power modifier is vicious.
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I like this far more than FNR4 and I loved that game. I'm more of a casual fan though. The thing I can't stand the most isn't footwork, punch damage, presentation, etc... it's online cheese that I hate and that looks like it might be out for FNC which makes me very happy.
The only problem I have now is I'll probably have to wait a while to get it with MLB the Show coming out. It probably won't be till June or July when I actually am able buy it.
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EA, and I guess all companies seem to err on the side of offense. I wish they would do a better job balancing improvements. With punching so much easier this year, footwork should've been a priority. It's a major part of defense and boxing in general. It's the basis of ring generalship. The "auto block" helps, but with the high connect percentages we're all seeing, obviously not enough.
And some of the additions are unfinished. They could've done a much better job with the ref. Boxing is the one sport where the ref physically interacts with the athletes. It's why I wanted to see a ref in this game. Why is he not breaking up clinches, giving warnings, wiping gloves, sending guys to corners, ect?
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Just got my first online 1 punch KO with Tyson 
What a feeling! Feels way more satisfying than the abundant TKOs in those MMA games.
What a feeling! Feels way more satisfying than the abundant TKOs in those MMA games.
The point is this as I can see. The Spammers are pissed . The way they play the game has changed and they are upset they can't spamm bob and weave or throwing meaningful punches withthe same arm. I like the game. I think with tuner update based off what Country and Visualizer wrote this game will be spot on. I can't really determine how well all footwork is til i use different boxers. Also for anyone who complain about boxer ratings you can change their ratings .
Got to D/L the demo last night and played some. I need to play more before rendering an opinion.
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Good evening Gent's I have not been motivated to buy a FN on this generation but FNC may change that. Been playing the demo non-stop and I can def tell you guys have made an impact on the direction of the series.
It has been absolutely refreshing to me to be able to use some semblance of boxing fundamentals in a game and still be competitive. No its not the end all be all but neither was nba 2k9... or 2k10 but they laid the foundation for 11. That is what it looks like you have here. A game that is turning the corner.
I agree that footwork should be sharper at times you feel trapped where if your boxer has the ability you should be able to evade or create space. Stamina is waaaaaaaaayyyyyy to easy to recover but the frame is there.
I am actually looking forward to snatching this one up.
While the blocking is not what the die hards want its not a childlike implementation either it appears there was some thought behind it. You can't just hold it down and be impervious to damage and I have been holding it and blocking low and the cpu switches to high and punches get through.
In future this should be an option so those who choose it can use it. I think with the speed of the game though it would be a sight more difficult to react as opposed to guessing as some mentioned earlier in the thread.
Announcing and atmosphere is uhhh limited... LOL but at this point I'm sure the Nation would prefer a gameplay focus anyway.
For me after a day of solid play I have to say the punching delay bothers me a bit and I still can't fire off my jab combinations with the intended hand on command just yet but I love the simplicity of one stick all punches.
Sometimes I fall into the rhythm of the match and my punch timing is perfect as I work with the slight delay. Other times my guy is swinging combo's I swear I didn't intend.
and there are enough defensive options to were I don't feel like I have to sit there and trade leather with a guy if the fight is not where I want it to be....
I am an outside fight by nature so I love playing with Ali... Punishing Iron Mike with Jab's from distance and loving it. Also love the fact that he seems to know he needs to get inside on me. Its this tug of war of each of us trying to implement our specific style that I find so appealing so far with the demo.
Hopefully that extends to all the other boxers and their respective strengths and styles.
Are there any tendencies in the game this year or just ratings ?
It has been absolutely refreshing to me to be able to use some semblance of boxing fundamentals in a game and still be competitive. No its not the end all be all but neither was nba 2k9... or 2k10 but they laid the foundation for 11. That is what it looks like you have here. A game that is turning the corner.
I agree that footwork should be sharper at times you feel trapped where if your boxer has the ability you should be able to evade or create space. Stamina is waaaaaaaaayyyyyy to easy to recover but the frame is there.
I am actually looking forward to snatching this one up.
While the blocking is not what the die hards want its not a childlike implementation either it appears there was some thought behind it. You can't just hold it down and be impervious to damage and I have been holding it and blocking low and the cpu switches to high and punches get through.
In future this should be an option so those who choose it can use it. I think with the speed of the game though it would be a sight more difficult to react as opposed to guessing as some mentioned earlier in the thread.
Announcing and atmosphere is uhhh limited... LOL but at this point I'm sure the Nation would prefer a gameplay focus anyway.
For me after a day of solid play I have to say the punching delay bothers me a bit and I still can't fire off my jab combinations with the intended hand on command just yet but I love the simplicity of one stick all punches.
Sometimes I fall into the rhythm of the match and my punch timing is perfect as I work with the slight delay. Other times my guy is swinging combo's I swear I didn't intend.
and there are enough defensive options to were I don't feel like I have to sit there and trade leather with a guy if the fight is not where I want it to be....
I am an outside fight by nature so I love playing with Ali... Punishing Iron Mike with Jab's from distance and loving it. Also love the fact that he seems to know he needs to get inside on me. Its this tug of war of each of us trying to implement our specific style that I find so appealing so far with the demo.
Hopefully that extends to all the other boxers and their respective strengths and styles.
Are there any tendencies in the game this year or just ratings ?
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Then as I continued to bounce away from him and land that reaching in stiff jab he back up and put his back to the ropes and stayed there. So I moved in and got right in close to him to pin him to the ropes. Just what he wanted!! I picked off a few punches and landed some counters then said "Nawww not playing his game". I back away and let him lay on the ropes. Then I would fake like I am coming in and he would throw 3 or 4 punches. Knowing it drained his stamina, I would then lung in with a 2 or 3 punch combo just rocking him. By the time I bounced out he was throwing these SLOOW looping shots. I then dropped him once and he stayed laying against the ropes. I stayed picking him off and it went to the cards with a easy win.
Spammers and non-boxing tactics = to LOSS
I still have a hard time against spammers. Not sure if anyone knows MrLiving, but he was on FN4 and EA MMA. He's true spam. Of course, he had to take Manny and right with the start of the fight he was doing all kinds of crazy stuff. Twitching, swaying. He resorted to slugging it out and I lost via decision. I just couldn't counter his constant punching.
I have found a flaw with the game, the scoring on rare occasions can be complete bull. I had one match where I dominated from start to finish but my opponent landed a flash Knockdown in the second round. When it went to the cards 2 judges gave him the first round which was absolutely ludicrous seeing as how I outlanded him by 100 punches and 30% higher connect rate through the fight lol. Happened to me one other time, but it never happened in a fight where I was not knocked down. I almost think they computer generates that first round score after the match based on the fact that I got knocked down in the second round. The couple times it has happened to me the end game stats were ludicrously in my favor and no way could I have lost either of the other rounds. Anybody esle expereinced this scoring flop?
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