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# 401
The 24th Letter @ 09/29/09 07:47 PM
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And even those two are up to opinion (I happen to agree Lewis' looks better in Live thought)
But Live has a LONG way to go as far as signature style overall....its not even close imo
EDIT: didnt Kobe do mo cap? haha
its just a demo guys!!
every year live puts out a better demo, then once the game comes out everyone has a change of heart
i've hated the 2k demos every year
so all these impressions of a demo are a broken record
every year live puts out a better demo, then once the game comes out everyone has a change of heart
i've hated the 2k demos every year
so all these impressions of a demo are a broken record
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# 404
BrianFifaFan @ 09/29/09 08:00 PM
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Perhaps a dumb question, and perhaps already asked, but is it out for the PS3? If not, when?
# 406
Moses Shuttlesworth @ 09/29/09 08:08 PM
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People keep saying that Kobe did mo-cap for the game. Is there any proof of that? I've not seen anything of him doing stuff with 2K besides playing 2K10 with Derrick Rose and then playing with Melo at the event.
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I'm quite disappointed about the demo
too slow on the fast-break, too many alley-oops, too high FG%, too much Help D (i.e. bynum helping fish on nelson with no reason and leaving D12 open), too much drive&kick (nelson had an uncontested lay-up but kicked out to lewis)
too slow on the fast-break, too many alley-oops, too high FG%, too much Help D (i.e. bynum helping fish on nelson with no reason and leaving D12 open), too much drive&kick (nelson had an uncontested lay-up but kicked out to lewis)
# 410
babythug23 @ 09/29/09 08:24 PM
I hope the ps3 version has the clean look and smooth play.I like the slow gameplay because last year it felt out of control. I will wait to see the ps3 demo if it is like 2k9 on ps3 i will get the 360 version. I see some of yall said it looks worst and has frame rate problems? Any of yall played the ps3 version of nba 2k9? What a mess i played Nba live last year as my nba game. 2k10 demo(360) is ten times before than the 2k9 full version on ps3. 2k10 demo looked great and played great. Maybe cause i didnt really play nba2k9 a whole lot last year.
# 411
RumbleCard @ 09/29/09 08:28 PM
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Judging by what I see in this game if they can clean up the pivoting in motion at lower speeds it'd go a long way.
# 412
FatalHussien @ 09/29/09 08:35 PM
I spent a few more games playing the demo and I left disappointed.
I think I have pinpointed the issue that I am having with it.
The controls are, in fact, better than 2K9. however...
The defense still feels sloppy and the game lacks flow.
The post control is more intuitive than last yet, BUT...
Posting from anywhere outside of 10 feet is almost impossible. The random animations that you slip into while trying to post makes it look even more disjointed.
My overall impression is that 2K's fluidity is due to having lengthy animation strings. This can be both good and bad. While visually, it looks nice, it often looks awkward when you find yourself branching into a brand new contextual animation that doesn't lead in well...
It leaves you feeling like you are fighting the controls; feeling like you are trying to avoid triggering a particular chain rather than executing moves...
I think I have pinpointed the issue that I am having with it.
The controls are, in fact, better than 2K9. however...
The defense still feels sloppy and the game lacks flow.
The post control is more intuitive than last yet, BUT...
Posting from anywhere outside of 10 feet is almost impossible. The random animations that you slip into while trying to post makes it look even more disjointed.
My overall impression is that 2K's fluidity is due to having lengthy animation strings. This can be both good and bad. While visually, it looks nice, it often looks awkward when you find yourself branching into a brand new contextual animation that doesn't lead in well...
It leaves you feeling like you are fighting the controls; feeling like you are trying to avoid triggering a particular chain rather than executing moves...
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# 414
str8artist @ 09/29/09 08:47 PM
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The more I play it, the more I love it.
I saw unforced mistakes, an overhead pass by the CPU that went out of bounds and other things that I really enjoyed. This game is really all that - I love it. It's not perfect (e.g. what's up with those shooting percentages), but I love the fact that it seems smarter. I love that feeling of setting up a shot, passing the ball around or finding the open man. It's awesome.
I saw unforced mistakes, an overhead pass by the CPU that went out of bounds and other things that I really enjoyed. This game is really all that - I love it. It's not perfect (e.g. what's up with those shooting percentages), but I love the fact that it seems smarter. I love that feeling of setting up a shot, passing the ball around or finding the open man. It's awesome.
# 416
baseballguy @ 09/29/09 08:54 PM
I'm really disappointed with the demo overall, despite a few bright spots.
Bright Spots
-The graphics are smooth, and the same goes for the animations. I feel like I'm much more in control of this game as opposed to last year.
-The post game is much improved despite the fact that hook shots are almost unstoppable
Negatives
-The shooting percentages are just terrible. And as we can see from Pasta's video, it's not just the demo. Can sliders fix that? Sure. But c'mon now. 82% on All-Star!???
-What's wrong with the passing!? Time after time someone drives into the lane with a clear look at the basket, and passes it out to a guarded teammate who, of course, makes the shot because that's all I've really seen so far.
-Alley-Oops are nice, but i just saw two where Kobe stopped at the free throw line, tossed it up in the air, only to have Ron Artest charge in from three-point land, morph right through Kobe, jump, catch, and slam.
-Defense.....why play it? Not only is it very difficult to stay in front of your man, but even if you do, the CPU makes the contested shot anyway.
Bright Spots
-The graphics are smooth, and the same goes for the animations. I feel like I'm much more in control of this game as opposed to last year.
-The post game is much improved despite the fact that hook shots are almost unstoppable
Negatives
-The shooting percentages are just terrible. And as we can see from Pasta's video, it's not just the demo. Can sliders fix that? Sure. But c'mon now. 82% on All-Star!???
-What's wrong with the passing!? Time after time someone drives into the lane with a clear look at the basket, and passes it out to a guarded teammate who, of course, makes the shot because that's all I've really seen so far.
-Alley-Oops are nice, but i just saw two where Kobe stopped at the free throw line, tossed it up in the air, only to have Ron Artest charge in from three-point land, morph right through Kobe, jump, catch, and slam.
-Defense.....why play it? Not only is it very difficult to stay in front of your man, but even if you do, the CPU makes the contested shot anyway.
# 417
baseballguy @ 09/29/09 09:09 PM
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# 418
FatalHussien @ 09/29/09 09:24 PM
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# 419
bigeastbumrush @ 09/29/09 09:29 PM
Well...here are my impressions.
Overall - I was impressed. I mean REALLY impressed. I think for me...because I never played 2K9 (last time was 2K8 and loved it), it's fresh to me. It looks...from a graphical standpoint...impeccable. And despite no commentary...I even enjoyed the P.A. announcer and crowd chants.
Graphics - 10
Player faces are nice. I saw David Lee's face in Steve's video so I think graphics probably deserve about a 9 but because overall the game is so "shiny", I'll give it a 10.
The court looks nice. Arena looks nice. I really don't have a complaint in the graphics department. The graphics in this game are WAY better than the competition.
Gameplay - 7
Yeah. I have a huge issue with the controls in this game or lack thereof. I don't like Isomotion. And I'm not digging how they implemented momentum.
I will say the bigger players feel like they have weight to them which is why I didn't rate it lower.
Scoring in the post is easy which leads me to believe this is going to take Major slider work (and time) to fix.
Steals are done lovely.
Passes are too pin-point. And there is no head tracking . Okay so you have this pin-point lead passing but guys never turn their head around to receive the ball???
AI - 4
I could lump this with Gameplay. Although I like the off ball movement, I'm not sure if I think it's Authentic off ball movement. Just seems a bit random at times.
Something with the logic here on double teams and in general. I was using the Magic and Bynum had a mismatch in the post with Jameer guarding him. No double team came. Bynum passed the ball to Kobe who was beyond the 3 point line. Kobe shot a 3.
Then there are times when doubles seem to come automatically. I dunno...I just didn't understand it. Sliders?
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All in all...I really liked the games I played. I think with alot of Slider work...guys are gonna have some fun with this game.
I think alot of the disappointment I have read is due to the 2K diehards being "too used" to this game. Because I skipped a year, I'm enjoying it like a new game.
I enjoy the demo but I won't be getting the retail. If I do get it...it'll be after a price drop or guys are done doing sliders. I just get the feeling like guys are going to have to put months of time into doing sliders and playbooks here.
I also don't think each game will play out differently from what I have seen from the retail videos and the demo. The games I played seemed very similar to me. Too similar. I want different guys to dominate me in EVERY game I play. I simply don't see that happening.
I also don't see really physical play that I'm looking for. Guys do go for boards hard and such. It's just that with so many players feeling "heavy" I would expect there to be much more phyiscal stuff going on.
This looks to be a solid game though.
Overall - I was impressed. I mean REALLY impressed. I think for me...because I never played 2K9 (last time was 2K8 and loved it), it's fresh to me. It looks...from a graphical standpoint...impeccable. And despite no commentary...I even enjoyed the P.A. announcer and crowd chants.
Graphics - 10
Player faces are nice. I saw David Lee's face in Steve's video so I think graphics probably deserve about a 9 but because overall the game is so "shiny", I'll give it a 10.
The court looks nice. Arena looks nice. I really don't have a complaint in the graphics department. The graphics in this game are WAY better than the competition.
Gameplay - 7
Yeah. I have a huge issue with the controls in this game or lack thereof. I don't like Isomotion. And I'm not digging how they implemented momentum.
I will say the bigger players feel like they have weight to them which is why I didn't rate it lower.
Scoring in the post is easy which leads me to believe this is going to take Major slider work (and time) to fix.
Steals are done lovely.
Passes are too pin-point. And there is no head tracking . Okay so you have this pin-point lead passing but guys never turn their head around to receive the ball???
AI - 4
I could lump this with Gameplay. Although I like the off ball movement, I'm not sure if I think it's Authentic off ball movement. Just seems a bit random at times.
Something with the logic here on double teams and in general. I was using the Magic and Bynum had a mismatch in the post with Jameer guarding him. No double team came. Bynum passed the ball to Kobe who was beyond the 3 point line. Kobe shot a 3.
Then there are times when doubles seem to come automatically. I dunno...I just didn't understand it. Sliders?
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All in all...I really liked the games I played. I think with alot of Slider work...guys are gonna have some fun with this game.
I think alot of the disappointment I have read is due to the 2K diehards being "too used" to this game. Because I skipped a year, I'm enjoying it like a new game.
I enjoy the demo but I won't be getting the retail. If I do get it...it'll be after a price drop or guys are done doing sliders. I just get the feeling like guys are going to have to put months of time into doing sliders and playbooks here.
I also don't think each game will play out differently from what I have seen from the retail videos and the demo. The games I played seemed very similar to me. Too similar. I want different guys to dominate me in EVERY game I play. I simply don't see that happening.
I also don't see really physical play that I'm looking for. Guys do go for boards hard and such. It's just that with so many players feeling "heavy" I would expect there to be much more phyiscal stuff going on.
This looks to be a solid game though.
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