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Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

  12:52 PM - September 23, 2016 by Steve_OS

Another Madden NFL 17 tuning update is available now for Xbox One and PlayStation 4 users. Below is the list of improvements and updates to gameplay.
  • Increased interception chances for user-controlled defenders in Multi-player catches
  • Reduced kick meter accuracy penalty under rain conditions.
  • Reduced kick meter power penalty under snow conditions.
  • Increased wait-time for Pass Rushers to play shed moves when pass rushing (Reduced “Insta-Sheds”)
  • A variety of tuning changes to help defense be more effective vs. running plays
  • Reduced frequency of organic knock-outs after catches
  • Reduced chances of broken tackles for ball carriers
  • Slightly reduced throw-out-of-sack fumble chances
  • Reduced chance for pass-blocking RB's to Cut-Block
  • Reduce chance for success when pass-blocking RB's Cut-Block
Let us know what you're seeing!

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# 321 xzayla @ 09/29/16 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by cable guy
Absolutely road, I could totally understand that. Yeah some of those tackles are totally over the top. What I love personally is the idea of there are endless amounts of different ways of players going down. Forward, backward, backbreakers, falling, flipping. Yes this is definitely a preference thing.

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Same with me...some of them may look messy with limbs and what not going everywhere but at least there is a lot more variation of tackles without the tuner instead of the canned tackle animations that have been there since the PS3 days with the tuner.
 
# 322 therealsmallville @ 09/29/16 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jm0ney2001
If you uninstall and reinstall do you lose any save info?


Nope. Everything is saved, even your settings (at least, on Xbox One).


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# 323 SmashMan @ 09/29/16 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gosens6
Not everyone is evil if they don't like something about this game.
Wasn't saying they were. All I was saying there was that if Clint's word would have been good enough to take at face value if he confirmed suspicions on this (and we know it would have been), it's certainly good enough when he shot it down.

Booker, thanks for posting the videos. I'd say give it a shot and tweet at Clint or Rex to show what you're talking about. Maybe something can be done about it. Video is a huge key here, because we can all see the same thing at the same time instead of depending on "it feels different", you know?
 
# 324 DeuceDouglas @ 09/29/16 08:58 PM
Still seeing the "insta sheds" way too often but I'm starting to think that it's just an All-Madden thing. Only time I ever see it on my side is in the running game.

Like I said before I haven't seen much success from either side since release but since this tuner I've started noticing a lot more of what I'll describe as "crash 11." Basically as soon as the ball is snapped on a running play all 11 players become heat-seeking missiles to the running back which makes it extremely hard to gain anything. The game I just played against the Redskins CPU and I combined for 103 yards on 57 carries.
 
# 325 booker21 @ 09/29/16 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SECElit3
This game is awesome out of the box, with no patch or tuner. They did a great job with the initial release. However, the game was extremely polished after the first patch, and that was my best time with Madden 17. The game still maintained some playability with the second patch, but it tightened the game play up some, and you lose some of the jaw dropping moments seen in out of the box and release day patch game play. I will say I will miss the color rush jerseys if I have to go back to enjoy the game. This tuner destroys the game play of Madden 17, and if included in the next patch, with no changes. It may be the death of Madden updates for me.


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If you don't play online just delete the tuner and avoid next patch. Yeah you will get no commentary updates but to me is worth it. The gameplay is amazing the way it is. I feel threaten when playing against good RB. Not all defenders are Ray Lewis and tackling rag doll is live and kicking.

Enjoy the game man.


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# 326 xzayla @ 09/29/16 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SECElit3
This game is awesome out of the box, with no patch or tuner. They did a great job with the initial release. However, the game was extremely polished after the first patch, and that was my best time with Madden 17. The game still maintained some playability with the second patch, but it tightened the game play up some, and you lose some of the jaw dropping moments seen in out of the box and release day patch game play. I will say I will miss the color rush jerseys if I have to go back to enjoy the game. This tuner destroys the game play of Madden 17, and if included in the next patch, with no changes. It may be the death of Madden updates for me this year.

In the future, I think I am going to quit updating after the release day patch, because it does seem that other "hands" start getting involved. Madden 16 was excellent until the third patch, so I'm starting to see a pattern.


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You know all of a sudden I was wondering why I've grown tired of this game so fast and I think you might be on to something. I'm just going to delete everything and see if I get that enjoyment back.
 
# 327 roadman @ 09/29/16 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SECElit3
This tuner destroys the game play of Madden 17, and if included in the next patch, with no changes.



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Very subjective.
 
# 328 booker21 @ 09/30/16 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by xzayla
You know all of a sudden I was wondering why I've grown tired of this game so fast and I think you might be on to something. I'm just going to delete everything and see if I get that enjoyment back.


You can only delete the tuner. Unless you are on disc. Then you can have launch experience.


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# 329 booker21 @ 09/30/16 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SECElit3
So Booker, are you going to risk the third patch if people say it makes the game better? I'm curious what your approach is going to be.


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The only way I can risk it is If they make user QB accuracy worst. Otherwise I'm done. This is the madden I get for 2017. If there are any improvements they will come for 2018.

Without the tuner and user QB acc at 7 I'm extremely happy with the experience I'm getting. Perfect? No. But I'm getting fun and one of the most enjoyment are the tackling for me. I said on another post. Tackling and passing accuracy are key.

I love the organic drops. I love the break tackles. Not all defenders are Ray Lewis, and the versatility that each play has because of this. That HB may drop a pass when the pass is a difficult one. The organic drops because they just collied.

Everything they tuned is what I feel make madden 2017 special. So yeah I will give up any new fix for what I have.


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# 330 jfsolo @ 09/30/16 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by roadman
Very subjective.

There really isn't any point in responding to those kinds of posts anymore. Hyperbole like that doesn't lend itself to fostering a productive discussion about the game.
 
# 331 SmashMan @ 09/30/16 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SECElit3
Exactly, so don't... I've admitted that my view is subjective. However, I think there are more people (some recognizable) than you think that feel the way I do.
Yeah, we can all look up tweets, guy. It's one somewhat recognizable name tweeting about this. Let's not overstate it as some swell of momentum.

The problem is you continue to make definitive statements like:
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This tuner simply was a response to address those cries from those who don't want to learn how to play the game properly.
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It's pretty clear to see that it was an extreme nerf to the game play, in my opinion.
and you're not coming with definitive proof to back these issues up. How is anybody supposed to have a constructive conversation with this?

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And we can go back to your earlier posts in this thread for more definitive statements.

Spoiler


All of these before you even played one second of the game with the tuner to judge any of its' effects.

Look, despite all the typing I've done in this thread, I really, really don't care if you like or dislike the game. I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else. Everyone makes their own decision on a game. I'm saying if you're going to make claims before playing that the game is drastically changed and continue to make them after trying the tuner, it's only fair to expect you to back them up with evidence. You haven't.
 
# 332 denverbro89 @ 09/30/16 07:59 AM
Insta shed, you mean speed rush. Gtfoh ea. Pass rush is garbage. Every year one side of the dline gets shafted, and can never get pressure, usually the right end, which is usually your best pass rusher.

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# 333 Jm0ney2001 @ 09/30/16 10:12 AM
Ever since this tuner I have had really weird offensive shootouts. I don't know what to do with this game anymore. It's just seems like if I'm going to play default I need to lower the mins quite a bit or if I want s 60 min game I need to adjust some sliders to get realistic stats which is exactly what I don't want to do. I really hate the casual crowd ughh.
 
# 334 charter04 @ 09/30/16 10:58 AM
I get what a few are saying about the organic tackles being less now. I would have to play without the tuner again to get a better look though.

As far as everything else I just don't see the "nerfing" everyone is talking about. Go to my YouTube channel. The last two games where played with the tuner.

Both games our QB's had about 2-4 seconds to pass all game. I haven't seen any less pass rush.

We play head to head games with All Madden.

Our league average for week 2 (before the tuner was 3.6 sacks a team per game). Week 3 after the tuner 3.9

I'm still seeing wide open drops and contact drops.

We are seeing more defensive games. Better run d.

Still seeing plenty of sack fumbles and fumbles in general.

Guys are still missing a lot more FG's and extra points than madden 25-16

Some guys still had big rushing games. The guy I just played had 131 yards rushing against me.

My point is if we are talking feel and organic tackling stuff fine. If we are talking game breaking and nerfing of this or that I do not see the results on the field in head to head All Madden games. I can not agree with something I'm not seeing and have video of without seeing some proof from others.

The last game I played was great. I won 19-17. It was a defensive battle with fumbles, and lots of real FB and it took a lot of strategy and we play 13 min quarters to get about 64 plays per game per team.

Anyway. It's just my opinion but, I have two full games of proof.


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# 335 redsox4evur @ 09/30/16 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by denverbro89
Insta shed, you mean speed rush. Gtfoh ea. Pass rush is garbage. Every year one side of the dline gets shafted, and can never get pressure, usually the right end, which is usually your best pass rusher.

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Originally Posted by redsox4evur
Guys this video is the insta-shed being talked about. And if this is happening a lot I am fine with it getting tuned down as most people wouldn't have time to complete a pass. The guy is in the QB's face within a second of snapping the ball.



https://twitter.com/GiantBlue76/stat...91043370131456

They mean plays like that. Where some bum like Geno Grissom gets passed Tyron Smith (the best OL) in the league and it happened a lot per game. Like 5 or 6 times.


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# 336 charter04 @ 09/30/16 12:45 PM
Highlights of the last game I played in our Online Franchise. Lots of variety. QB's got pressured all game. I'm just not sure what could be wrong with this gameplay.

https://youtu.be/XgSqMQ3DgCA
 
# 337 Elway7 @ 09/30/16 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by charter04
Highlights of the last game I played in our Online Franchise. Lots of variety. QB's got pressured all game. I'm just not sure what could be wrong with this gameplay.

https://youtu.be/XgSqMQ3DgCA
I see lots wrong.
Fumbles
Sacks
Stiff player animations
 
# 338 charter04 @ 09/30/16 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Elway7
I see lots wrong.

Fumbles

Sacks

Stiff player animations


Fumbles and sacks are wrong? Lol. Stiff animations are there with or without the tuner.

Not sure what your points are


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# 339 charter04 @ 09/30/16 01:08 PM
I showed highlights post tuner. I'm on the side with those who like the game. I like it before and after the tuner. I'll just leave it at that. Both sides are starting to sound redundant. I'm just going to have to agree to disagree with some.


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# 340 sebas49 @ 09/30/16 01:47 PM
Hey folks, after last tuning update i'm having hard time trying stop the Agressive Catch. In my last two games (CFM Online, user vs user) i'm getting burn by WR too often in jump balls, even with double coverage. My opponents throw like 15 or more deep balls every game and their receivers catchs the ball almost every time...First game, vs Steelers, Martavis Bryant get 296 yards in 12 catchs. No matter what i try to stop (Swat ball, play receiver, play ball or simple no switch to CB), Bryant catch the ball almost every time against my top CB (Stephen Gilmore) with safety help on coverage. Next game vs Browns, similar results with Josh Mcown throwing to Josh Gordon, Terrelle Pryorn and Andrew Hawkins...Those 3 guys combined to 10 rec, 312 yards and 3 TD's with my opponent using the same 4 verts repeatedly.

It's very frustating see this...Even in snow game, in open field with wind, low rated QB like McCown making perfect deep throws for 50 + yds every time to receivers in double coverage and complete the pass 80% of the time. Other players have complaining about this after tuning update too. I want to know your opinions too, but for me, it feels like playing M16 again.
 


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