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Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

  11:52 AM - September 23, 2016 by Steve_OS

Another Madden NFL 17 tuning update is available now for Xbox One and PlayStation 4 users. Below is the list of improvements and updates to gameplay.
  • Increased interception chances for user-controlled defenders in Multi-player catches
  • Reduced kick meter accuracy penalty under rain conditions.
  • Reduced kick meter power penalty under snow conditions.
  • Increased wait-time for Pass Rushers to play shed moves when pass rushing (Reduced “Insta-Sheds”)
  • A variety of tuning changes to help defense be more effective vs. running plays
  • Reduced frequency of organic knock-outs after catches
  • Reduced chances of broken tackles for ball carriers
  • Slightly reduced throw-out-of-sack fumble chances
  • Reduced chance for pass-blocking RB's to Cut-Block
  • Reduce chance for success when pass-blocking RB's Cut-Block
Let us know what you're seeing!

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# 301 booker21 @ 09/28/16 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMan
It could be, and it could be that the tuner only effected what the developers claim it does.

I defer to bcruise's earlier post:
It was explained several times. The thing is some people don`t think it changed anything and other they do.

In summary Tackling is more canned/scripted, you see the tackling animation fully. While before the tuner that tackling was more disorganize, just 2 or 3 players colliding and falling down. The ball player had more momentum, like if the tackling were "weaker" so it was easier to fall forward or break a tackle. After tuner 1 on 1 situation the D will win 99 of the chance. before receiver had more chance to break tackles and was more dynamic.

That`s is the best i can do to explain. There is not point of showing a video since, it`s not that it disappear. It just the frequency of it. Scripted tackles are triggered more often than not.

Please don`t start with i don`t see it, placebo etc, i`m just explaining what we are referring to the changes, if you don`t see it great, if you do also great. Im just answering to him, liked i said before, i already have the best madden settings i can get and i love it.
 
# 302 SmashMan @ 09/28/16 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by booker21
Please don`t start with i don`t see it, placebo etc, i`m just explaining what we are referring to the changes, if you don`t see it great, if you do also great. Im just answering to him, liked i said before, i already have the best madden settings i can get and i love it.
If Clint had responded by saying that the tuning changes had an impact (or even simply that there's a chance it could have) on what you're seeing, would you have come back and used it as proof? But because he didn't and said it was placebo, his response gets brushed aside. Interesting how that works.

Either way, glad you have a way to play where you're happy with things. It's a good game this year.
 
# 303 redsox4evur @ 09/28/16 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMan
If Clint had responded by saying that the tuning changes had an impact (or even simply that there's a chance it could have) on what you're seeing, would you have come back and used it as proof? But because he didn't and said it was placebo, his response gets brushed aside. Interesting how that works.



Either way, glad you have a way to play where you're happy with things. It's a good game this year.

If it doesn't help your argument you brush it off as if it never happened.


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# 304 KyGamerLT @ 09/28/16 08:29 PM
Tuner broke my game lol
 
# 305 BleedGreen710 @ 09/28/16 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KyGamerLT
Tuner broke my game lol
can you elaborate please?
 
# 306 booker21 @ 09/28/16 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BleedGreen710
can you elaborate please?


I guess I was wrong.

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# 307 KyGamerLT @ 09/28/16 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BleedGreen710
can you elaborate please?
I can't pick plays or pause the game starting in the 3rd quarter. This did not happen before i downloaded the new update. All I can do is take the loss. Also can one of the mods direct me to a call number so I can get a refund. Can't complete team heroes if the auction isn't working.
 
# 308 booker21 @ 09/28/16 08:57 PM
(null)

I don't see what's wrong?
Did you try deleting the tuner and re download it?

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# 309 KyGamerLT @ 09/28/16 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by booker21
(null)

I don't see what's wrong?
Did you try deleting the tuner and re download it?

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My screen looked like that when I tried to pause the game. I couldn't do anything at all just call timeouts.
 
# 310 booker21 @ 09/28/16 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KyGamerLT
My screen looked like that when I tried to pause the game. I couldn't do anything at all just call timeouts.


If you pause the game and go back? Since this started with the tuner try to delete and re download it.


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# 311 Gosens6 @ 09/29/16 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMan
If Clint had responded by saying that the tuning changes had an impact (or even simply that there's a chance it could have) on what you're seeing, would you have come back and used it as proof? But because he didn't and said it was placebo, his response gets brushed aside. Interesting how that works.

Either way, glad you have a way to play where you're happy with things. It's a good game this year.
Honestly, I see what Clint is saying, but my eyes also see what they see.

If you uninstall all the tuners and patches so far, and then play a game, the tackling will be significantly different.

There's no way anyone can tell me different when it's as plain as day. Multiple people aren't about to make something up for the sake of making it up. (At least I'm not, that would be childish as hell )

I'm not here to try and make the game look bad, I have no agenda whatsoever, but the tackling is different, it has been changed. That right there is fact. Clint may say tackling wasn't changed, because they didn't put any changes into it, but something is definitely 100% different with tackling.

Not everyone is evil if they don't like something about this game.

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# 312 roadman @ 09/29/16 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gosens6
Honestly, I see what Clint is saying, but my eyes also see what they see.

If you uninstall all the tuners and patches so far, and then play a game, the tackling will be significantly different.

There's no way anyone can tell me different when it's as plain as day. Multiple people aren't about to make something up for the sake of making it up. (At least I'm not, that would be childish as hell )

I'm not here to try and make the game look bad, I have no agenda whatsoever, but the tackling is different, it has been changed. That right there is fact. Clint may say tackling wasn't changed, because they didn't put any changes into it, but something is definitely 100% different with tackling.

Not everyone is evil if they don't like something about this game.

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Actually, Clint did say it did affect break tackles, which I can tell as well.

I've clearly said, it is what it is, people will see what they see.

I think some of us, including Mill, were citing the fact that people were chiming in before downloading the tuner. Once they were called out on that, they came back in after playing a game or a few, and still backed up their opinion prior to downloading the tuner.

Gos, I know you like to tell it like you see or feel, which is what this place is for. Personally, I think there is still some feelings from people that won't believe a darn word the developers say because of personal past experiences (or bias) with the game.(not saying it's you or anyone else in here, but that is a vibe I get)

Clint didn't say tackling didn't change, he said they tuned down the break tackles.

In my eyes and experiences, and others peoples eyes and experiences, I find the tuner made the game better.

I don't feel either side will change the mind of each other. Your point about being evil is ironic, I feel the same way stepping in the 2k forums.

Smashman, I'll get back to your question later, I'll be out of town for a few days.
 
# 313 Jm0ney2001 @ 09/29/16 08:39 AM
If you uninstall and reinstall do you lose any save info?
 
# 314 booker21 @ 09/29/16 08:39 AM
Yesterday I played a game and I recorded a few tackles to try to explain what is what some people are seeing. Keep in mind that this is not something that it wouldn't happen with the tuner. It just happen way less. Without the tuner almost every tackle looks like it. The way I describe is "messy" like you can't really tell exactly who did the tackle.

I'm wondering why should I bother but I just want to show what I'm seeing. Like someone said above both sides are not going to change their mind. I just want to show something more than words. Hopefully it helps in anyway.

https://youtu.be/Ma5v-dSOlBc
https://youtu.be/wVZY1VeTULM
https://youtu.be/1U3yP73-ABc
https://youtu.be/yNooowhTuBA

Sorry for the links but I have my baby sleeping in my arms and I can't get to the pc


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# 315 BleedGreen710 @ 09/29/16 09:06 AM
So just to clarify.. you are saying there is more 'messy' tackles, like in the videos you posted, without the tuner - then there is with the tuner? Interesting. I haven't played much since the tuner (waiting for patch to start my franchise). But I kind of liked the messy tackles. Anyone else?

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# 316 booker21 @ 09/29/16 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BleedGreen710
So just to clarify.. you are saying there is more 'messy' tackles, like in the videos you posted, without the tuner - then there is with the tuner? Interesting. I haven't played much since the tuner (waiting for patch to start my franchise). But I kind of liked the messy tackles.

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The official word is no.

To answer you question love the messy tackles. It just felt more physics are in place.
But some are seeing that and others don't. So the best thing to do if you want to decide for yourself is delete tuner. Play game. Re download tuner play a game. Nothing that you can't roll back.


Keep in mind that you need tuner for online and also the tuner will be added to next patch. So in long term it will be a pain to avoid the tuner. So if you like it more with the tuner you will have a simple game life [emoji4]


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# 317 roadman @ 09/29/16 09:15 AM
Booker, thank you for taking the time and sharing those videos. I now know and understand where people are coming from.

If there are less of those backbreaker like tackles after the tuner, that's a positive for me. I've never liked how they looked on replay and I don't see those type of tackles long enough when I'm playing a game.

It's all a personal opinion, but, I've just never liked how they looked on the game. To me, it looks like bodies contorting in ways we don't see on Sunday's.

I have no issue with people who enjoy those type of tackles in the game, it's just not for me.

It all boils down to personal preference, sucks for those you enjoy those type of tackles, if true.
 
# 318 booker21 @ 09/29/16 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by roadman
Booker, thank you for taking the time and sharing those videos. I now know and understand where people are coming from.



If there are less of those backbreaker like tackles, that's a positive for me. I've never liked how they looked on replay and I don't see those type of tackles long enough when I'm playing a game.



It's all a personal opinion, but, I've just never liked how they looked on the game. To me, it looks like bodies contorting in ways we don't see on Sunday's.



I have no issue with people who enjoy those type of tackles in the game, it's just not for me.


Yeah. I agree that this a personal preference. I read somewhere that he liked that the tackles are "cleaner" so I guess he meant this. And I agree some people don't like this "backbreaker" tackles and others do.


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# 319 cable guy @ 09/29/16 09:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by booker21
Yesterday I played a game and I recorded a few tackles to try to explain what is what some people are seeing. Keep in mind that this is not something that it wouldn't happen with the tuner. It just happen way less. Without the tuner almost every tackle looks like it. The way I describe is "messy" like you can't really tell exactly who did the tackle.

I'm wondering why should I bother but I just want to show what I'm seeing. Like someone said above both sides are not going to change their mind. I just want to show something more than words. Hopefully it helps in anyway.

https://youtu.be/Ma5v-dSOlBc
https://youtu.be/wVZY1VeTULM
https://youtu.be/1U3yP73-ABc
https://youtu.be/yNooowhTuBA

Sorry for the links but I have my baby sleeping in my arms and I can't get to the pc


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Nice. I was actually going to post today, how much better the game looks on slow speed. Imo. Getting more of that stuff, which I like as well. But looking at your vids, I Think it's the players have more of that "weighty" feel about them. Like their running on the field. I have to actually look for that tonight.

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# 320 cable guy @ 09/29/16 09:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roadman
Booker, thank you for taking the time and sharing those videos. I now know and understand where people are coming from.

If there are less of those backbreaker like tackles after the tuner, that's a positive for me. I've never liked how they looked on replay and I don't see those type of tackles long enough when I'm playing a game.

It's all a personal opinion, but, I've just never liked how they looked on the game. To me, it looks like bodies contorting in ways we don't see on Sunday's.

I have no issue with people who enjoy those type of tackles in the game, it's just not for me.

It all boils down to personal preference, sucks for those you enjoy those type of tackles, if true.
Absolutely road, I could totally understand that. Yeah some of those tackles are totally over the top. What I love personally is the idea of there are endless amounts of different ways of players going down. Forward, backward, backbreakers, falling, flipping. Yes this is definitely a preference thing.

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