Madden NFL 17 News Post

The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

04:37 PM - August 9, 2016 by Steve_OS

Madden NFL 17 Associate Game Designer, Ryan "RG" Glick and the Madden team have sent us this exclusive blog covering the return of formation subs. Make sure to read it and post your thoughts.

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# 41 vc3616 @ 08/09/16 07:26 PM

Dude am i missing something? alot of you say you can't use WR at HB but it says you can lol

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# 42 StayPlation82 @ 08/09/16 07:27 PM

is WR on the HB list or is HB on the WR list? you are missing it all lol

# 43 vc3616 @ 08/09/16 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by StayPlation82


	is WR on the HB list or is HB on the WR list? you are missing it all lol

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my bad ok i see it i was looking at it like it was saying WR you can move to HB but its saying you can move HB to WR........yeah thats dumb

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# 44 Tengo Juego @ 08/09/16 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CM Hooe


	Another fair point. Without the ability to assign defensive match-ups, I could see this sort of flexibility being a point of frustration and creating exploits. I still would rather have unlimited flexibility myself, but again, I understand the mindset.

But, that's literally why offenses do these things. To create matchup disadvantages for the defense. Granted, the defense does need to have a matchup option to better handle these situations. But this thing isn't going to exist in ranked h2h where cheesers run rampant. In a controlled CFM, I think it'd be fine.

# 45 huskerfan4life @ 08/09/16 07:51 PM

so I was wondering if I wanted to set the formation subs were would I find out how every one of the 32 teams do their subs would it be on nfl.com or would it be someplace else.

# 46 steeldee7 @ 08/09/16 07:53 PM

Just glad I can sub packages at all. To me I think the subbing will get more flexible in 18 edition.

# 47 Hooe @ 08/09/16 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by huskerfan4life


	so I was wondering if I wanted to set the formation subs were would I find out how every one of the 32 teams do their subs would it be on nfl.com or would it be someplace else.

You're looking for snap-count-at-position information, which as far as I know only Pro Football Focus tracks. As such, you'll have to pay money to get that information if you want it.

Football Outsiders might? Maybe? I'm not sure.

# 48 BleedGreen710 @ 08/09/16 08:09 PM

if they're worried about people cheesing with formation subs in online leagues they should at least have let people in offline franchises have full customization of formation subs (put any player anywhere you want). im a little bummed I can't put WR at HB and etc.

# 49 Black Bruce Wayne @ 08/09/16 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tatupu_64


	And clearly an attempt to cheese imo. What teams actually do this? Cobb does it on occasion, who else?

No team that I could think of. Teams will occasionally put a WR in and run a sweep or something, but rarely do these plays have success anyway.

# 50 RGiles36 @ 08/09/16 08:27 PM

I guess I'm just disconnected from the community these days...

...b/c I don't quite understand how some can be so UP in arms about a feature that didn't even exist (to us) 48 hours ago. It's essentially a bonus feature. How can it be so scrutinized?

# 51 N51_rob @ 08/09/16 08:33 PM

Wow, tough crowd in here. This went from a "wait till next year" feature just a couple of months ago to being in the game and I'm seeing so much bitching about the restrictions. *Shrugs* what ever floats your boat I guess but the fact that we even have this in on day 1 seems like a win-win. There is still room for improvement. I am also leery of the bugs that this could introduce in a short dev cycle. I wonder if that is the reason for the restrictions?

Oh well I am happy to see this and will allow me to create a more dangerous Red Zone package with Jordan Reed lined up on smaller CBs outside since Redskins lack height on the outside.

# 52 Find_the_Door @ 08/09/16 08:35 PM

Sucks that this isn't in ranked h2h. Wish it wasn't confined to franchise mode.

# 53 rkocjay @ 08/09/16 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vc3616


	Dude am i missing something? alot of you say you can't use WR at HB but it says you can lol Sent from my SM-G928P using Tapatalk

yea i was getting confused on why people was saying this

# 54 K_GUN @ 08/09/16 08:43 PM

Glad its back✔️....props EA!

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# 55 BleedGreen710 @ 08/09/16 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rkocjay


	yea i was getting confused on why people was saying this

you can sub HB in at WR but not sub a WR in at HB

# 56 CrazyBruin12 @ 08/09/16 08:54 PM

So I message RG Madden on Twitter and he said reason why u can't put SS at LB is because, We used the franchise mode depth chart logic to prevent exploits. We hear the feedback about SS at LB etc and will investigate. SO based on what he said they still could put it in the game

# 57 darren1024 @ 08/09/16 09:00 PM

Can formation subs be used with "custom" playbooks?

# 58 kehlis @ 08/09/16 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by darren1024


	Can formation subs be used with "custom" playbooks?

We still don't know with certainty one way or the other.

# 59 ThatMichiganFan @ 08/09/16 09:26 PM

I'm seeing a lot of complaining, but I want to say thanks to the devs, game changers, and everyone else who made this happen. I was content to wait a year for this, but this makes M17 so much better IMO. Can't wait to come up with some special packages on defense!

# 60 lwilkins @ 08/09/16 09:27 PM

Progress has been made, Madden Dev Team does hear us. My not be everything but I'm thankful for these many improvements the Madden Team has done for us.

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