Madden NFL 15 News Post

Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream, Watch it Here

04:25 PM - July 18, 2014 by Steve_OS

EA Sports is hosting a livestream of Madden NFL 15 with Creative Director Rex Dickson, as he goes over gameplay features.

If it gets archived or captured, we'll update this post for those of you that miss it. If the embedded stream doesn't work, click here.

UPDATE: Here is a link to the livestream, if you missed it.

UPDATE #2: Just updated the embedded video of the livestream, courtesy of SimFBallCritic. Thanks JP.

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# 241 Gman 18 @ 07/19/14 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	I noticed the starting lineup overlay has improved since E3 Before After Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You could definitely tell that EA has been working on the presntation since E3. Hopefully they have made noticeable progress on the half time show since E3

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# 242 jpdavis82 @ 07/19/14 04:59 PM

[Clint said something about working on True Step for OL the other day but he also mentioned that they are trying to figure out how to have all 22 players use True Step at the same time without their being performance issues. He said towards the beginning of the cycle it was like that but they had too many frame rate issues and are trying to figure out how to make it work without the frame rate issues happening.

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# 243 strawberryshortcake @ 07/19/14 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	[Clint said something about working on True Step for OL the other day but he also mentioned that they are trying to figure out how to have all 22 players use True Step at the same time without their being performance issues. He said towards the beginning of the cycle it was like that but they had too many frame rate issues and are trying to figure out how to make it work without the frame rate issues happening. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Honestly, I think the community (I know I would) would like to see true step fully implemented for all 22 players as an alpha/beta footage even with any performance issues. How much frame rate issues are there really? If may not even be really a hindrance to overall playability.

True step is crucial to gameplay based on the clip mark that I have noted in the previous post. It should be a complete game changer.

# 244 TheTruth437 @ 07/19/14 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	[Clint said something about working on True Step for OL the other day but he also mentioned that they are trying to figure out how to have all 22 players use True Step at the same time without their being performance issues. He said towards the beginning of the cycle it was like that but they had too many frame rate issues and are trying to figure out how to make it work without the frame rate issues happening. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Realistic player movement for all twenty-two players should have taken precedence over new features like the tackle cone. I was hoping that realistic player movement for all twenty-two players would be addressed for current-gen Madden 25 last year; unfortunately, "TrueStep" suffered from poor implementation, just like many other new features over the years. I'm not buying another Madden until realistic player movement is implemented for all twenty-two players on the field.

Tiburon has not only not prioritized the most important new features and improvements needed, but also, new features and improvements they do choose have suffered from poor implementation.

# 245 jpdavis82 @ 07/19/14 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheTruth437


	Realistic player movement for all twenty-two players should have taken precedence over new features like the tackle cone. I was hoping that realistic player movement for all twenty-two players would be addressed for current-gen Madden 25 last year; unfortunately, "TrueStep" suffered from poor implementation, just like many other new features over the years. I'm not buying another Madden until realistic player movement is implemented for all twenty-two players on the field. Tiburon has not only not prioritized the most important new features and improvements needed, but also, new features and improvements they do choose have suffered from poor implementation.

Did you watch the stream yet? Player movement overall is definitely better, players have more weight and there's 2-4 man tackles now too.

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# 246 strawberryshortcake @ 07/19/14 07:09 PM

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	Far be it for me to try to excuse or defend what Tiburon does because ultimately, they're the ones to blame for whatever issues Madden has. That said, I don't really see how in this instance they can be faulted for not prioritizing movement for players, if it's true that they actually added it but had to remove it due to programming issues. I give that claim some credence due to the fact that this isn't the first time a Madden team has stated this type of issue, meaning adding one thing, which unexpectedly effects something else. Specifically with regard to player movement, which I think Ian mentioned some issues with trying to add locomotion to defenders.

Personally, I simply want to see these conflicting issues. "Show me rather then tell me."

Any type of footage with true step implemented for all 22 players would be great, along with a coder/programmer highlighting what the conflicts are. A tech demo, anything. Would rather see them keep true step fully implemented and have team Madden huddle up and work out the external kinks. Clean up or remove the "external surroundings" to what's not allowing 22 true steps to work simultaneously.

# 247 countryboy @ 07/19/14 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by strawberryshortcake


	Personally, I simply want to see these conflicting issues. "Show me rather then tell me." Any type of footage with true step implemented for all 22 players would be great, along with a coder/programmer highlighting what the conflicts are. A tech demo, anything. Would rather see them keep true step fully implemented and have team Madden huddle up and work out the external kinks. Clean up or remove the "external surroundings" to what's not allowing 22 true steps to work simultaneously.

Why would any video game company/developer release a video to the public that shows their product with "issues/broken"?

No video game developer or any company for that matter is going to release a video or market their game with known issues. That would be silly.

# 248 ch46647 @ 07/19/14 07:29 PM

Clint and Rex- If any of you a reading this let me say that was a phenomenal gameplay video. While Madden still has a ways to go, particularly in the movement and animation department, there is no doubt the team they have assembled is PASSIONATE about making Madden a great sports game again.

I believe it will be at least another year or two before I can hop back on board, but I do believe they are "turning the corner". I have had twitter discussions with Clint and he always seems to take an honest (humble) approach, which I appreciate. In the past it seemed as though the Madden team was in a bubble and thought the game was great, while they continued to fall further and further behind other quality sports titles.

This video has given me hope for the future of Madden, which I had lost a few years ago. These guys are fixing many of the legacy issues and its clear that gameplay/presentation is improving.

I hope they take the next development cycle or two and pour a ton of resources into fixing the running animation and locomotion system (like NHL did) as well as flesh out the animation system in general. Since Madden 06' this game has looked so clunky in motion. Once they work that out, things will all start falling into place.

Would be real nice to see an overhauled penalty system as well. Including a significant variety of new animations for each penalty...

# 249 strawberryshortcake @ 07/19/14 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal


	I gotta agree with Countryboy, it's cool if you don't believe the "official story" about them adding it, then having to take it out but expecting them to show us how bad it is so we can decide if it's acceptable is beyond the pale, imo.

No, I believe them. Sure it's probably ludicrous for them to show it publicly.

It's just the approach seems to be backwards as TheTruth437 mentioned. If true step is truly a game changer as it seems it could very well be, they should have kept it in place and made it work. My concern is all the work that's completed and all foreseeable work being done might need to be scrapped to get 22 true steps working simultaneously. True steps could get Madden's players to move organically.

Edit: ... and then where would we be again, year 1 of a 3 year plan once 22 true steps implementation have been figured out? That's my concern.

# 250 leathrneck34 @ 07/19/14 07:53 PM

I like what I saw from the stream for sure. However, I am not satisfied with everything I have heard and or seen. You can see the progress that IS for sure, but you also see glaring issues still remaining in the game. I don't have to mention what everyone else has seen/commented on already. I don't understand why with these new consoles we still hear about tech roadblocks. I would imagine like with the previous consoles it simply has to do with the programmers, designers, and such not understanding the power they wield with the new hardware. With that said, I would bet in the near future as JP loves to put it ( I believe it is him anyway) we will see true step or some form of it for all 22 players as the dev teams learns how to harness the new power they possess.

This will be a first day purchase for me like it is every year but last year. I enjoyed Rex and RG's honesty and real desire to see the game improve and move towards a more simulation of Football rather than an arcade style knock'em around blitz style of game.

However I will not keep the game past a few weeks like I did M25 next gen if CFM has not seen any improvement over the boring CFM from last year. Matter of fact online has no appeal to me what so ever. Offline CFM or as I would like to continue calling it Franchise Mode needs expanded, practice needs to be productive for younger players on teams to actually improve themselves from week to week year to year. We need more General Manager type control over our team. I would like to see draft classes have meaningful and useful draft rounds with players you can improve and use for different styles of offense and defense as well as a better method for scouting.

There are other things I would like to see improved this year from on offline players prospective I just don't feel like listing them all right now.

Before I go I would like to tell JP. I love your enthusiastic optimism about this years game and the future of Madden under Rex & Cams ever watchful eye's. Don't listen to the haters and trolls... stay you man, I love reading your post's and appreciate all the time you spend finding useful links and creating threads on this "THE GREATEST FORUM ON THE INTERNET".

Goodnight !!

And God Bless America !!

# 251 oneamongthefence @ 07/19/14 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal


	I gotta agree with Countryboy, it's cool if you don't believe the "official story" about them adding it, then having to take it out but expecting them to show us how bad it is so we can decide if it's acceptable is beyond the pale, imo.

I'm gonna say keep it out until they make it work. We know their track record with implementing half way done features in the past.

# 252 jpdavis82 @ 07/19/14 08:07 PM

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	I'm gonna say keep it out until they make it work. We know their track record with implementing half way done features in the past.

Which is exactly why it's not in the game yet, they aren't half way doing things under Cam & Rex.

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# 253 SkillzKillz719 @ 07/19/14 08:32 PM

I kind of ****ing hate how they seemingly have no integrity for their previous Maddens. In the first 20 minutes he continues to willingly unveil the peice of **** engie that we were being made fools out of to believe it was as good as the yearly pitches seem to indicate over the last generation of consoles.
What is this?
It's like renewing a relationship every year with the girl you're interested but year-in and year-out around the same time she tells you how much of a better person (or in Madden's case product) she is and how bad she was before and how much better she is now. Every year.

The world around us is perpetually undergoing change and the business of the gaming industry as a whole is no exception. Why is this still how we "buy" our games? There has to be a alternative option that doesn't make the consumer feel like we are being mislead, misjudged, and told what we want to hear only to give our $60 to the company. Every year.

Why not just pay a yearly fee and let the developers and programmers really get to work and grind away at making the best football simulation possible that maxes out the NFL license and is a fun, realistic, and deep game.
I've just really about had with all this marketing.. I don't know what to trust. And through their actions and my own personal experience, the leadership of EA Sports and Madden just do not want to deliver a game badly enough that would come close to my previous reasonably obtainable suggestions that would make the game fun, realistic, and deep in the true sense of the words.

# 254 Haval93 @ 07/19/14 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal


	Far be it for me to try to excuse or defend what Tiburon does because ultimately, they're the ones to blame for whatever issues Madden has. That said, I don't really see how in this instance they can be faulted for not prioritizing movement for players, if it's true that they actually added it but had to remove it due to programming issues. I give that claim some credence due to the fact that this isn't the first time a Madden team has stated this type of issue, meaning adding one thing, which unexpectedly effects something else. Specifically with regard to player movement, which I think Ian mentioned some issues with trying to add locomotion to defenders.

So performance issues is the reason why it was cut? I'm sorry, but this is something you shouldn't hear from a developer, specifically one that wants to take the game in a more realistic direction. Also, didn't we just start a new console generation, the Madden programmers have already optimized and maxed out all of the power available in these new consoles? I don't know what goes on at EA, but game play takes precedence over all other aspects when developing a game. Rather than increasing the number of polygons on each character and taking a hit on game play and the frame rate, compromises should of been made to the graphics department. Reduce the detail in crowd, you don't need to animate ever blade of grass, and other objects that just add eye candy. Use most of your available power to complete aspects like implementing "True Step" to ever player. Fans and people playing the game would rather have better game play than good graphics, this has always been the case of video games as games with great game play last a long time while games with a focus on graphics don't.

Regardless, the live stream was well done and showed a lot of nice things. I want to play the demo now and will buy the game baring it isn't a complete disastrous mess to support Rex's vision for the series. Hopefully next year, they focus on redoing all player movement, locomotion, animations, and physics.

# 255 juduking @ 07/19/14 09:47 PM

@29:30 mark - The Carolina Panther defender seemingly knows where the Saints offensive player is going to be. Offensive player looks to be behind the defender, however the defender "knew" that the offensive player was going to cut back to the outside. Strange looking, psychic play.

Did you watch the stream? The "psychic" DB knew exactly where the WR was going because RG told the defender to read for that route to show that you can stop out routes, routes to the flats, and curls. Money plays from last year. There was nothing psychic about it. Also Rex had run the same play a few times in a row, so if the AI is working properly it should be able to sniff out consecutive plays, which will be great to stop online cheesers.

# 256 TTD71 @ 07/19/14 09:50 PM

To quote Eddie Murphy:

Code:

If you're starving and somebody throw you a cracker, you gonna be like this:
"Goddamn, that's the best cracker I ever ate in my life! That ain't no regular cracker, was it?
What was that, a Saltine? Goddamn, that was delicious.
God, that was the best cracker I ever ate in my life.
Can I have another one, please? Please, one more."

# 257 strawberryshortcake @ 07/19/14 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by juduking


	@29:30 mark - The Carolina Panther defender seemingly knows where the Saints offensive player is going to be. Offensive player looks to be behind the defender, however the defender "knew" that the offensive player was going to cut back to the outside. Strange looking, psychic play. Did you watch the stream? The "psychic" DB knew exactly where the WR was going because RG told the defender to read for that route to show that you can stop out routes, routes to the flats, and curls. Money plays from last year. There was nothing psychic about it. Also Rex had run the same play a few times in a row, so if the AI is working properly it should be able to sniff out consecutive plays, which will be great to stop online cheesers.

Yes, I did watch the video. It is still psychic DB in action not because the DB was told to cover the flat, but the execution.

As I specified and let me clarify ... the concept is perfectly fine. The concept of covering the flats is perfectly fine. It is the execution that is poorly implemented. Watch the interaction/relationship of where the defender is, moves and where the offensive player is, and moves. Execution, concept.

# 258 jpdavis82 @ 07/19/14 11:42 PM

I see things are reverting back to normal now around here, that's ok they'll be more like yesterday once the game drops. Some of you may even be "blown away" 😱

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# 259 Wolverines05 @ 07/20/14 12:13 AM

i know youre optimistic JP, but to be optimistic about the OS Madden Fanbase??? now thats too much

# 260 Danimal @ 07/20/14 12:27 AM

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	I see things are reverting back to normal now around here, that's ok they'll be more like yesterday once the game drops. Some of you may even be "blown away" 😱

What was the point of this post? This thread is being closely monitored and no one has even come close to crossing the line. This post will only derail the thread and you know it,

Connsider this your last friendly warning, next time it's an infraction.

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