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Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - IGNITE Technology & Next-Gen Visuals (QJB)

03:08 PM - November 2, 2013 by royounggoku

QJB checks in with his third Madden NFL 25 next-gen video. This one focuses on the IGNITE technology and next-gen visuals.

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# 121 jpdavis82 @ 11/03/13 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs


	You were agreeing with us for a couple days just a couple weeks ago... SMH...

Yes, but these videos are showing improvement. I'm not sure why people are getting hung up on living worlds, Rex already said they got the base code in this year for 3d crowds and interactive sidelines. He admitted they didn't get as far with that as they wanted, but did say players on sidelines will interact when players come near them. The player models weren't really touched on much, it's disappointing, but there are a lot more important areas that need improving. They have to lay the foundation for a great game on next gen. That's all Madden 25 next gen is, and honestly, here's a shocker, I'm not sure I'm going to buy this year and don't expect many to either. I expect greatness in the future, we've already been told what is and is not in m25 next gen. Expecting more is setting ourselves up for failure and disappointment. If you haven't listened to the interview with Rex guys, please do so, it will help give you a better understanding of a lot of things for Madden next gen and future.

# 122 iamgramps @ 11/03/13 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gagnon39


	I agree but I don't think we're there yet. I know a lot of kids that play Madden religiously and love it. I've heard kids talking about Madden 25 on PS4 and Xbox One and they think it looks great. And it's not just high school kids. There's many older sports gamers that buy it and play it and, like you said don't know any different. I haven't bought Madden for a while and I'm planning on getting 25 for the PS4. I'm still holding out hope that it will be a good game but every day that goes by in which EA does not release actual gameplay footage, I get more worried. At least I'll have The Show to look forward to soon.

I'm 36 and well aware of the problems plagued by Madden. However, I understand it's a video game and does not have true human intelligence; therefore, I enjoy it for what it is. Out of the millions of dollars this game will make, $60.00 of it will be mine. Well a few hundred if you include ultimate team.

# 123 Gagnon39 @ 11/03/13 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by iamgramps


	I'm 36 and well aware of the problems plagued by Madden. However, I understand it's a video game and does not have true human intelligence; therefore, I enjoy it for what it is. Out of the millions of dollars this game will make, $60.00 of it will be mine. Well a few hundred if you include ultimate team.

I keep bouncing back and forth. I hated Madden, then lately and especially with the Next Gen stuff I started to think I will enjoy it thoroughly, then I read these boards and all I see is negative comments which remind me why I hated it for the past seven years.

But again, my point is that people like you (and pretty much everyone on this forum including myself) are in the minority. MOST people that buy Madden are not aware or do not notice the problems that are pointed out on this forum and think the game looks fantastic.

Most people never put together that all the new videos and information being released does not show actual gameplay footage.

# 124 Jet Sufferer @ 11/03/13 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	Comments like this are beyond me. You have no idea where this game is headed and to a degree neither do I, but you can't sit here and say its a joke and always will be. The negativity of the Madden threads lately is sickening.

Mere months ago you were swearing up and down that Madden 25 on Next Gen systems were going to "blow us away"

Now you have conveniently moved the goalposts to MADDEN 15!!!!!

Did you or did you not predict greatness for past Maddens as well???

You know who has been a prophet about these games? ME! (and others or course)

I said the game would NEVER, EVER be good on this gen unless they did a total re-write of the game from scratch. That was met with a chorus of OMG then we will have to wait a couple years, etc. etc., I said it does not matter better to have a good game in a couple of years instead of this mess. They never started over and haven't given us one good game. They had a chance to start over many times and even now with new consoles and they're still trying to make chicken salad out of chicken droppings.

If I was wrong with my predictions for YEARS AND YEARS, I would stop making them and re-assess why I've been so bone-achingly wrong for all those years.

I would feel foolish and embarrassed if I spammed the baseball forums guaranteeing a New York Mets World Series victory every year, and likely people would just laugh at me and take nothing I said seriously after a year or two. To then continue calling for the Mets to win the World Series every year people would just write me off as a fanatical fan, or just a fanatic.

I've been a Met fan since I could walk but it doesn't mean I'm dead sure that they're going to win the World Series every year right up until the day they're mathematically eliminated, that's totally illogical.

You're sickened by the negativity, but the negativity has a foundation and can be backed up with evidence.

Your positivity on the other hand makes no sense. All of a sudden a company that has never been great is now going to be great? Why would we expect a great football game from a company that can't make a good one?

Let them make a good one and we'll talk. Wishing it and being "positive" as a consumer isn't going to make it happen, wishing Santa Claus to be real isn't going to make him real, even if we wish it really, really hard.

# 125 Sturzinator @ 11/03/13 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Sufferer


	You're sickened by the negativity, but the negativity has a foundation and can be backed up with evidence. Your positivity on the other hand makes no sense. All of a sudden a company that has never been great is now going to be great? Why would we expect a great football game from a company that can't make a good one? Let them make a good one and we'll talk. Wishing it and being "positive" as a consumer isn't going to make it happen, wishing Santa Claus to be real isn't going to make him real, even if we wish it really, really hard.

Now THAT'S hitting the nail square on the head!

Well said.

# 126 RandomPerson @ 11/03/13 01:42 AM

The fact that this is a next gen title is embarrassing. Looks like complete crap.

# 127 life4eva @ 11/03/13 02:02 AM

I don't understand why everyone is so hard on the game.......

I haven't played Madden since like 07 so I just downloaded the Demo for PS3 and it seems pretty cool. Some animation are a little off, but overall I think it's way better than I remember it in 07.

Also there's no reason in the world anyone should be praising NB2k. While the graphics do look amazing I must say the game is broken. I think I stopped playing in 2k11 or 12. All I remember is playing online and the frequency that people can make 3's, steal balls and basically play a game that doesn't resemble basketball was enough for me to never play the game again.

A football game that I did love online (when it was controlled) was All-Pro Football, then it went to crap as well. Personally I think all sports games are just major cheese online that's why unless your playing in leagues I would stay away.

Back on topic, I hope they release some gameplay soon. If it's at least like current gen with updated graphics I will be happy. It's only a Video Game people, more important things in life.........

# 128 ERA @ 11/03/13 02:03 AM

EA is probably paying QJB at this point, I don't see how this is considered a next-gen title. This is what current-gen could have been.

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# 129 jpdavis82 @ 11/03/13 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Sufferer


	Mere months ago you were swearing up and down that Madden 25 on Next Gen systems were going to "blow us away" Now you have conveniently moved the goalposts to MADDEN 15!!!!! Did you or did you not predict greatness for past Maddens as well??? You know who has been a prophet about these games? ME! (and others or course) I said the game would NEVER, EVER be good on this gen unless they did a total re-write of the game from scratch. That was met with a chorus of OMG then we will have to wait a couple years, etc. etc., I said it does not matter better to have a good game in a couple of years instead of this mess. They never started over and haven't given us one good game. They had a chance to start over many times and even now with new consoles and they're still trying to make chicken salad out of chicken droppings. If I was wrong with my predictions for YEARS AND YEARS, I would stop making them and re-assess why I've been so bone-achingly wrong for all those years. I would feel foolish and embarrassed if I spammed the baseball forums guaranteeing a New York Mets World Series victory every year, and likely people would just laugh at me and take nothing I said seriously after a year or two. To then continue calling for the Mets to win the World Series every year people would just write me off as a fanatical fan, or just a fanatic. I've been a Met fan since I could walk but it doesn't mean I'm dead sure that they're going to win the World Series every year right up until the day they're mathematically eliminated, that's totally illogical. You're sickened by the negativity, but the negativity has a foundation and can be backed up with evidence. Your positivity on the other hand makes no sense. All of a sudden a company that has never been great is now going to be great? Why would we expect a great football game from a company that can't make a good one? Let them make a good one and we'll talk. Wishing it and being "positive" as a consumer isn't going to make it happen, wishing Santa Claus to be real isn't going to make him real, even if we wish it really, really hard.

I explained in a previous post the other day exactly why I'm positive and why I'm set on Madden 15 blowing everyone away and how if it doesn't ill be joining the Titanic with the rest of you guys.

# 130 jpdavis82 @ 11/03/13 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ERA


	EA is probably paying QJB at this point, I don't see how this is considered a next-gen title. This is what current-gen could have been. Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk now Free

Ea doesn't pay any of the GC's that's not the case.

# 131 rootofalleli @ 11/03/13 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by StormsWarning


	o and i support this version of madden, i also support Rex team, in making this game better.

I think the current team is solid, but I usually think that. When I buy the game, I feel cheated due to all the crashes, bugs, incomplete features, etc. Starting this year I'm really not buying Madden... I didn't buy CG, and I'm not getting a new system yet. In some sense I support these guys too - just not financially. Who knows, maybe in 3-5 years they'll have made a next gen football sim.

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	Rex is a former college defensive lineman, Cam Weber was a QB and Clint Oldenburg is a former NFL offensive lineman. I think these guys know what football is about. They're trying to make a game based off of real football. What they're doing or trying to do has never been done before to the level they're wanting. We've never had former football guys be the leadership team for a football video game like this. These guys know football they don't have to know about Superstar or my player, they know the X's and O's of the game of football.

I bolded some stuff. I'm not interested in investing in an early version of a football game that will be good later - only in buying one that is good now. As I said elsewhere, if I want that experience I'll back games on Kickstarter and cross my fingers that they get finished AND come out the way I hoped. Nothing about your post is false: these guys have tons of knowledge and potential, and I hope some day we see the actual. We shouldn't slam these devs for taking a job at Tiburon, but they still haven't made the game they want to make and know we'll love. Odds are pretty good they won't get the chance: no one else has. I'm not feeding EA $60/year to give them or anyone else a shot. That company needs to invest more on the product and less on licenses and ads.

# 132 ForUntoOblivionSoar∞ @ 11/03/13 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetpac


	Can anybody tell me why they wasted 30 seconds of a 90 second video on Demarco Murray doing the Cat Daddy.. HE NEVER DOEW IT IN REAL LIFE ANYWAY. Some legacy issues are still present. Kaep still looks like Tony Montana.... and when he gets hit after releasing the ball he goes in the "Tuck" the ball animation. .. No awareness at all Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 2

Yeah, but look at that beautiful golden helmet *drools*.

I'd say the graphics are pretty solid. This post is in part about "Next-Gen Visuals," is it not? The lighting looks fantastic.

Need some work on Kap's face (btw, it's Kap, not Kaep, as per Kap himself).

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Originally Posted by unfriendlyghst


	"Ball.....veins.......sweat......great" That was what I heard. Also, is this how the game will play? All zoomed in and in slo-mo? I think I'll stay in the shadows as it seems that a true NFL simulation has eluded Tiburon again.

# 133 swac07 @ 11/03/13 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetpac


	Is this dude REALLY TWO DIFFERENT COLORS?!!?! COME ON EA!!!

# 134 adriano @ 11/03/13 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by slick589


	Yes that was the first or second video posted this week by QJB

Thanks, I deleted the vid..

# 135 BoCgrist @ 11/03/13 07:32 AM

The stuff you are watching will never be seen in real time. Just replays! Just roll out video of 12 on 12 FB from madden cam. All you need to see is a complete half of football. EA is not going to show that. The game is finished. Don't understand why they keep showing theses commercial like videos?

# 136 GamingJones @ 11/03/13 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BoCgrist


	The stuff you are watching will never be seen in real time. Just replays! Just roll out video of 12 on 12 FB from madden cam. All you need to see is a complete half of football. EA is not going to show that. The game is finished. Don't understand why they keep showing theses commercial like videos?

12 on 12??

# 137 jpdavis82 @ 11/03/13 07:48 AM

I'm done trying to defend the game when I've already explained exactly why I'm so optimistic for the future. You guys will be the ones eating humble pie this time next year. I have 99.9999% confidence in the future of this game based on what I've heard from those who have direct conversation with the devs and have seen what's coming in the future. Just watch what happens, it will speak for me.

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# 138 Gosens6 @ 11/03/13 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	I'm done trying to defend the game when I've already explained exactly why I'm so optimistic for the future. You guys will be the ones eating humble pie this time next year. I have 99.9999% confidence in the future of this game based on what I've heard from those who have direct conversation with the devs and have seen what's coming in the future. Just watch what happens, it will speak for me. Bookmark this post

So you're just okay with them lying to everyone about what we saw at E3? You still want to give them the benefit of the doubt for next year and beyond? When for 9 years now we've been doing just that?

If you love madden, more power to you. But to keep defending a company that keeps letting us down each and every year is just mind blowing. A very small percentage of us have any hope for next year. Madden 15 is our breaking point, if that's not the true next gen game we've been waiting for I guarantee Madden won't see our money again for a long time. While we want a good game, barely any of us have faith EA will deliver. They do nothing but disappoint with this game

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# 139 Jet Sufferer @ 11/03/13 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	I explained in a previous post the other day exactly why I'm positive and why I'm set on Madden 15 blowing everyone away and how if it doesn't ill be joining the Titanic with the rest of you guys.

We have been on the Titanic for 9 years and have hit every iceberg in the ocean. Every trip a bunch of people die and we wind up shivering on the lifeboats with you telling us you can't wait for the next cruise, it's going to be GREAT! Next years ship is going to have "True Berg" technology, the hull is making 150 calculations per second...

If we aren't rescued and have to resort to cannibalism guess who we're going to eat first

# 140 Gosens6 @ 11/03/13 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by xnate128x


	You really think Tiburon will give us the true next gen game next year? I don't think so bud. They have to fix the commentary, kicking game, AI logic, physics, presentation, core gameplay, etc...... I mean the list goes on.... It's going to take them years to fix the things I personally want fixed. I'm sure plenty of others agree with me as well. You guys are expecting too much just after a yearly cycle. They can only do so much. Just rent the game for the next three years, and then think about buying it the fourth. I am so confident that Madden will be close to the game we want by then. By that time, they will be used to the hardware and really do something with the game. I'm hoping at least.....

Oh, so another guy telling us to wait 3-4 years, when we've been waiting 3-4 years the entire life cycle of the PS3 and Xbox 360.

No thanks, they have next year to prove something to me. If they can't get it done, their fault and they will have more than a few lifelong customers gone. They have no excuse for this abomination they're releasing on the 15th.

We're tired of excuses, 3 year plans and promises of next year. Screw that. If 2K can make APF 2K8 in one dev cycle, and that game is still better than madden 25 next gen on the field, there is no excuse in the world that anyone can give.

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