Madden NFL 13 News Post

Madden NFL 13 CCM Will Not Allow You to Play Other Games on the Schedule, Only Yours

04:33 PM - June 12, 2012 by Steve_OS

Because I have been asked about this via Twitter and email so often, I wanted to make sure people were aware.

Justin Dewiel, Community Manager for EA Sports, just confirmed via Twitter (just follow the timeline), if you coach a team, you can no longer play other games on the schedule, only the game(s) on your own schedule.

For example. Rgiles asked if he could coach the Cowboys in CCM, but play the Patriots vs. Browns game.

Justin stated that it is not possible, because CCM is based around you and your character (coach or player).

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# 481 Smallzin @ 06/18/12 10:30 AM

You guys haven't even played the game yet?? Madden has always been a dissapointment but they actually BUILT something this year instead of a gimmick like usual. At least give it a chance first. If they just added the physics engine to 2012 and called it 2013, that would of been a surprise to me. They added a physics engine, built a new mode. Yes I do realize its basically the same modes, Been playing madden awhile. Added tons of new ways to immerse you in your franchise like a twitter feed. Added all new commentary. I feel like they actually did something this year. It doesn't seem like the same old madden that comes out year after year with a new gimmick

# 482 TreFacTor @ 06/18/12 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Smallzin


	You guys haven't even played the game yet?? Madden has always been a dissapointment but they actually BUILT something this year instead of a gimmick like usual. At least give it a chance first. If they just added the physics engine to 2012 and called it 2013, that would of been a surprise to me. They added a physics engine, built a new mode. Yes I do realize its basically the same modes, Been playing madden awhile. Added tons of new ways to immerse you in your franchise like a twitter feed. Added all new commentary. I feel like they actually did something this year. It doesn't seem like the same old madden that comes out year after year with a new gimmick

I can't get excited about a twitter feed if that's as good an example of what the immersion is then it's no wonder why many would have preferred 2012 franchise with the infinity engine. The new commentary had to be fixed because 12 was so bad. As far as new gimmicks, that has yet to be determined. The infinity engine is a step in the right direction, but if you still get mirrored animations prior to player contact then the improvement will be tarnished. If foot planting or the running animation isn't fixed then there's another ding on the fancy new engine. My excitement for the game just gets less and less the more that is revealed. If features were cut for time sake, what about other areas that might be neglected because of time spent on a generic twitter feed.

That's kind of funny though. I bet the devs hate twitter, but it's in the game.

# 483 ccdeville @ 06/18/12 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by magnusjolnaes


	Okay, I think I made a comment in this thread earlier, but I'm gonna give it another try. Though many of you may not like this and though it might not have been the smartest thing to do to leave out this feature it's perfectly natural. I'ts actually the same with FIFA, I believe. You can only play your own games. And it makes perfect sense. Example: I'm a Broncos fan, so I decide to create myself and coach the Broncos. I make it to the Super Bowl, and in the NFC championship it's Green Bay Packers vs. the awful Cardinals who somehow made it to the NFC Championship. So I decide to turn down the difficulty and torch the Packers with John Skelton in the NFC Championship because it gives me an easier Super Bowl. Yeah, that's right. The coach of the Denver Broncos called the plays in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP! Say what? I know that many of you wouldn't do that, and simply likes to play exciting matchups such as Steelers-Ravens or Saints-Panthers. But honestly... Where's the fun in determining other games outcome than your own? If you ask me, it's neither fun nor logical which is why I find it natural to leave it out. I'm having a harder time understanding why we can't edit players to our liking. Not that I've ever been using that feature but still. Anyway, that's my five cents. You probably don't care, but now you know :P Oh, and cheer up: Football season is coming!

That may be the way you play the game and that's fine, but I shouldn't be told how to play MY game. If that doesn't make sense to you that's ok because you won't be playing my franchise and I won't be playing yours.
Most of us enjoy a nice challenge in our games. To simply win by cheating the game wouldn't even appeal to the majority of gamers. I think most gamers don't mind losing if they get a real challenge.
By your logic even if I control only one team I can turn down the difficutly to rookie and go undefeated anyway if I really wanted to. If a person wants to cheat he'll find a way. But that's not the point here. The point is that we want full control to do what we want with our game and it's nobody else's business that's not in my home to tell me how I should play.

Although I have a favorite team in real life I personally don't play Madden just to win with my team, but for the NFL season experience. I'm not obsessed with my team winning the Super Bowl every year but I play as if i'm watching on TV.

Every other sports game gives you that experience and EA just bragged last year about giving us freedom and now one year later they change their tune? It doesn't make sense to me.

# 484 ShaneTheMaster @ 06/18/12 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by magnusjolnaes


	Okay, I think I made a comment in this thread earlier, but I'm gonna give it another try. Though many of you may not like this and though it might not have been the smartest thing to do to leave out this feature it's perfectly natural. I'ts actually the same with FIFA, I believe. You can only play your own games. And it makes perfect sense. Example: I'm a Broncos fan, so I decide to create myself and coach the Broncos. I make it to the Super Bowl, and in the NFC championship it's Green Bay Packers vs. the awful Cardinals who somehow made it to the NFC Championship. So I decide to turn down the difficulty and torch the Packers with John Skelton in the NFC Championship because it gives me an easier Super Bowl. Yeah, that's right. The coach of the Denver Broncos called the plays in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP! Say what? I know that many of you wouldn't do that, and simply likes to play exciting matchups such as Steelers-Ravens or Saints-Panthers. But honestly... Where's the fun in determining other games outcome than your own? If you ask me, it's neither fun nor logical which is why I find it natural to leave it out. I'm having a harder time understanding why we can't edit players to our liking. Not that I've ever been using that feature but still. Anyway, that's my five cents. You probably don't care, but now you know :P Oh, and cheer up: Football season is coming!

There is absolutely no reason why I shouldnt be able to WATCH the other game.

# 485 brahmagoul @ 06/18/12 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by magnusjolnaes


	Okay, I think I made a comment in this thread earlier, but I'm gonna give it another try. Though many of you may not like this and though it might not have been the smartest thing to do to leave out this feature it's perfectly natural. I'ts actually the same with FIFA, I believe. You can only play your own games. And it makes perfect sense. Example: I'm a Broncos fan, so I decide to create myself and coach the Broncos. I make it to the Super Bowl, and in the NFC championship it's Green Bay Packers vs. the awful Cardinals who somehow made it to the NFC Championship. So I decide to turn down the difficulty and torch the Packers with John Skelton in the NFC Championship because it gives me an easier Super Bowl. Yeah, that's right. The coach of the Denver Broncos called the plays in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP! Say what? I know that many of you wouldn't do that, and simply likes to play exciting matchups such as Steelers-Ravens or Saints-Panthers. But honestly... Where's the fun in determining other games outcome than your own? If you ask me, it's neither fun nor logical which is why I find it natural to leave it out. I'm having a harder time understanding why we can't edit players to our liking. Not that I've ever been using that feature but still. Anyway, that's my five cents. You probably don't care, but now you know :P Oh, and cheer up: Football season is coming!

The No. 1 issue I have with this take is I'm playing that other NFC title game to make sure the Cardinals don't get to the Super Bowl. I typically don't play franchise beyond Year 1 until Year 1 in real life is about over. I like to play along with the season. Who cares what impact this has on XP or whatever is so precious in CC. It's a video game and should be fun, first. For me, playing any game I want ala carte is what I consider fun.

# 486 kehlis @ 06/18/12 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by magnusjolnaes


	Okay, I think I made a comment in this thread earlier, but I'm gonna give it another try. Though many of you may not like this and though it might not have been the smartest thing to do to leave out this feature it's perfectly natural. I'ts actually the same with FIFA, I believe. You can only play your own games. And it makes perfect sense. Example: I'm a Broncos fan, so I decide to create myself and coach the Broncos. I make it to the Super Bowl, and in the NFC championship it's Green Bay Packers vs. the awful Cardinals who somehow made it to the NFC Championship. So I decide to turn down the difficulty and torch the Packers with John Skelton in the NFC Championship because it gives me an easier Super Bowl. Yeah, that's right. The coach of the Denver Broncos called the plays in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP! Say what? I know that many of you wouldn't do that, and simply likes to play exciting matchups such as Steelers-Ravens or Saints-Panthers. But honestly... Where's the fun in determining other games outcome than your own? If you ask me, it's neither fun nor logical which is why I find it natural to leave it out. I'm having a harder time understanding why we can't edit players to our liking. Not that I've ever been using that feature but still. Anyway, that's my five cents. You probably don't care, but now you know :P Oh, and cheer up: Football season is coming!

No it doesn't make perfect sense.

It's your game, if you want to skew the results of YOUR franchise then that's your prerogative. Why would EA care if you take the Cardinals to the Super Bowl in you offline franchise?

# 487 magnusjolnaes @ 06/18/12 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kehlis


	No it doesn't make perfect sense. It's your game, if you want to skew the results of YOUR franchise then that's your prerogative. Why would EA care if you take the Cardinals to the Super Bowl in you offline franchise?

Wow okay, it seems alot of you guys misunderstood, what I was saying.

My point was not that you are all cheating (or myself for that matter). But I'll give you, it probably wasn't the best example I came up with.

Anyway, my point is that it makes sense to not be able to play other games, than your own. I too would love to watch any game I want but I don't see why I should be able to control Tom Brady if my QB is Peyton Manning.

With that said, I'm all for as many options as possible, I just don't see this as a deal breaker. But I see how it can be for some of you.

# 488 87Birdman @ 06/18/12 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelman990


	What does a physics engine have to do with player editing, and only being able to control one team? I don't see how that even relates to this thread at all. It's like someone else saying who cares about rtp, the qb's have authentic throwing motions! Or comparing the great artwork to loss of features and defending the decision. Just because one person feels rtp is all that matters, and editing players is nothing important by comparison to them doesn't mean the next guy will agree. It also is not excuse to kill off features we have fought for on OS for years. It doesn't take much to notice how many posts and views both the player editing thread and this thread have received on these topics. Also how many people are upset or confused compared to the few that really aren't. Just read the threads and judge yourself what others are saying. Some of you have posted they think many are over reacting. Well, it must be really the majority over reacting then based on what I have read, so certainly something's wrong with EA's decision on this matter. And if anyone thinks the casual players won't care about this stuff, you are fooling yourselves. Casual players love blowing up stats on their favorite players, and of course a casual player would want to play with more then one team. playing with one team with limited control for realism is more of a sim player thing. I personally like CCM as a mode option itself, but it is a terrible replacement for franchise IMO. Franchise was about user customization, and being able to play the way the user saw fit. This was what was said by Josh Looman last year with Madden 12 BTW I would comment on this, but I think the guy in the post before me did a pretty awesome job with a replay

I agree taking these things out but that logic with the casual gamer is a little off. I remember when I was a casual gamer and did things like that, and to be honest if I am correct I can still do those things just not it CC. Which back then didn't matter because play now was what I did. So I could blow up my guys to be superstars and play with who ever I want against who ever I wanted. That was what playnow was for, and if they still have the play the superbowl than most casual gamers like that won't play CC anyways. Because most of that stuff is is geared more towards sim then. Drafting wouldn't really matter and if they are just doing it for the blown up stats and playing with what ever team they want play now is still in tact.

Now not adding things in that were there in the past may not have been the best move, but if they feel that the percentage of that group was lower then the percentage of online users may have been the reason for the shift. Because with an amount of time starting over they could have waited another year to make sure everything was in but then online would have probably been left in the dark and very few things would change. NCAA 12 to NCAA 13 is probably what happens when you split forces to work on starting from the ground up. There is a lot of discussion that not much changed from 12 to 13 and that is probably cause to them working in the back ground on remodeling their set up.

Madden though probably felt that putting out another game that didn't change much and left online franchises bare again would lose more customers than the plan choice they went with. Business discissions needed to be made and with deadlines somethings just don't make the cut when trying to figure out what to add. Because there are always large groups that are going to complain if something doesn't make it. like things that are considered small to some people like sock and sleeve length.

Sucks things like this happen all the time in the business world, and if your in a small group of it things like this happen, and it stinks. Hopefully they get these features either patched in or working correctly by next year.

# 489 ccdeville @ 06/18/12 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by magnusjolnaes


	Wow okay, it seems alot of you guys misunderstood, what I was saying. My point was not that you are all cheating (or myself for that matter). But I'll give you, it probably wasn't the best example I came up with. Anyway, my point is that it makes sense to not be able to play other games, than your own. I too would love to watch any game I want but I don't see why I should be able to control Tom Brady if my QB is Peyton Manning. With that said, I'm all for as many options as possible, I just don't see this as a deal breaker. But I see how it can be for some of you.

I know what you're trying to say and no disrespect to you, yet our main point is that we deserve to have options the same as we've always had. If you only want to play with Denver then just click Denver and play with them. If i want to play with multiple teams I should be able to do so. My gaming experience doesn't affect your gaming experience one iota. Yet limiting me to one team may not affect your gaming experience yet it now affects mine greatly.

My favorite team is the Dallas Cowboys i'm a diehard, yet i don't really want to play as the Cowboys for every game on the schedule i get bored with that. I may want to go to the Monday night matchup Patriots vs Jets and see if I can beat the Pats as NY. If i lose (as i probably should) that's fine. I may want to play against my division rival NY Giants as the Atlanta Falcons and risk losing to them and the outcome now affects my team in the standings. I find it more exciting to see Tom Brady throw for 400yds than just seeing meaningless simulated numbers. I'd rather be beaten by the Giants in an important game than just see it simulated.
But playing just as the Cowboys makes it feel as if the rest of the league really isn't involved.

Others are concerned about editing the way they want, playing against friends etc. This is all taken away.
And when it comes to getting franchise moves correct and accurate I trust myself much more than I trust the CPU.

# 490 aholbert32 @ 06/18/12 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by magnusjolnaes


	Okay, I think I made a comment in this thread earlier, but I'm gonna give it another try. Though many of you may not like this and though it might not have been the smartest thing to do to leave out this feature it's perfectly natural. I'ts actually the same with FIFA, I believe. You can only play your own games. And it makes perfect sense. Example: I'm a Broncos fan, so I decide to create myself and coach the Broncos. I make it to the Super Bowl, and in the NFC championship it's Green Bay Packers vs. the awful Cardinals who somehow made it to the NFC Championship. So I decide to turn down the difficulty and torch the Packers with John Skelton in the NFC Championship because it gives me an easier Super Bowl. Yeah, that's right. The coach of the Denver Broncos called the plays in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP! Say what? I know that many of you wouldn't do that, and simply likes to play exciting matchups such as Steelers-Ravens or Saints-Panthers. But honestly... Where's the fun in determining other games outcome than your own? If you ask me, it's neither fun nor logical which is why I find it natural to leave it out. I'm having a harder time understanding why we can't edit players to our liking. Not that I've ever been using that feature but still. Anyway, that's my five cents. You probably don't care, but now you know :P Oh, and cheer up: Football season is coming!

Actually Fifa gives people both options. In Fifa, you can play a season mode where you can control ALL teams and play any game in your league.

# 491 magnusjolnaes @ 06/18/12 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Actually Fifa gives people both options. In Fifa, you can play a season mode where you can control ALL teams and play any game in your league.

Alright never did that. Didn't think it was possible. But still not the point

# 492 ccdeville @ 06/18/12 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by goravens2052


	Why is there this misconception that people want editing so that they can make everyone a 99, or they want to play other games because it helps their team out or gives them an easier Super Bowl? Just because some offline players cheat the system others do not and use it only to fix progression, or to play out their own storylines and their own NFL.

100% correct. Most of us just want a good clean NFL experience. If there are a few 10yr olds that want to edit everyone to a 99 i'm not going to play them anyway.

# 493 aholbert32 @ 06/18/12 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by magnusjolnaes


	Alright never did that. Didn't think it was possible. But still not the point

It was part of your point. You used incorrect information to help solidify your point.

Regarding your greater point, you assume that everyone plays like you. I dont find the way you play franchise entertaining at ALL. Just as dumbfounded as you are that someone would play with multiple teams, I find it equally confusing that someone would want to pay 60 dollars to play with one team.

When I buy Madden, I buy access to a video game version of the NFL. I find it silly to limit myself to one team at all times or to be forced to restart a franchise every time I want to control a different team. With that said, I dont have a problem if you decide to play with 1 team....so I have no understanding of why anyone would have a problem with me controlling 32 teams offline.

I dont play 32 team franchises or other teams games to make it so my favorite team wins. I play it because sometimes I want to play with the Patriots and other days I want to play with the Broncos. I think this variety is also why I rarely burn out on games like most people do at OS.

# 494 magnusjolnaes @ 06/18/12 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Regarding your greater point, you assume that everyone plays like you. I dont find the way you play franchise entertaining at ALL. Just as dumbfounded as you are that someone would play with multiple teams, I find it equally confusing that someone would want to pay 60 dollars to play with one team. When I buy Madden, I buy access to a video game version of the NFL. I find it silly to limit myself to one team at all times or to be forced to restart a franchise every time I want to control a different team. With that said, I dont have a problem if you decide to play with 1 team....so I have no understanding of why anyone would have a problem with me controlling 32 teams offline. I dont play 32 team franchises or other teams games to make it so my favorite team wins. I play it because sometimes I want to play with the Patriots and other days I want to play with the Broncos. I think this variety is also why I rarely burn out on games like most people do at OS.

Wow, you guys are hard to argue with. You - again - miss my point.

My point is not that everyone should play like me or that you should absolutely be limited to play with one team. Not at all. That's what you make it out to be.

My point is - regardless of whether one thinks it's right or wrong to leave out the option of playing every game - that I can understand why EA has come to the decision. Simply because you choose a team to coach. And then you coach that team. Not every other team.

Now, I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to coach all 32 teams in a connected career. And I have no problem with anyone wanting to play with all 32 teams. I'm just saying, that from a realistic perspective it makes sense, that you can't control whichever team you like at any given time.

However - as I stated in a previous post - I'm all for options and I am all for letting the users getting everything they want out of a $60 game.

I think that's it for me in this discussion. If you don't follow me on this one, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

And may you have a very pleasant evening

# 495 kehlis @ 06/18/12 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by magnusjolnaes


	Wow, you guys are hard to argue with. You - again - miss my point. My point is not that everyone should play like me or that you should absolutely be limited to play with one team. Not at all. That's what you make it out to be. My point is - regardless of whether one thinks it's right or wrong to leave out the option of playing every game - that I can understand why EA has come to the decision. Simply because you choose a team to coach. And then you coach that team. Not every other team. Now, I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to coach all 32 teams in a connected career. And I have no problem with anyone wanting to play with all 32 teams. I'm just saying, that from a realistic perspective it makes sense, that you can't control whichever team you like at any given time. However - as I stated in a previous post - I'm all for options and I am all for letting the users getting everything they want out of a $60 game. I think that's it for me in this discussion. If you don't follow me on this one, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. And may you have a very pleasant evening

Im not missing your point.

I'm disagreeing with you in saying it makes sense. To me it makes no sense.

# 496 DorianDonP @ 06/18/12 08:16 PM

There has never really been a concrete philosophy for franchise mode in Madden.

Are you playing as a coach? Then why are you controlling players?

Are you a GM? Then why can you set the depth chart?

Are you the owner of the team? Then why are you doing anything other than raising ticket prices?

It's as if they crammed a bunch of philosophies in one mode.

For me, I don't play franchise mode as a coach. I play franchise as if it's a God mode. A mode where I can follow the 32 teams as if it's a real football season.

That is why it's imperative that I can play any game at any time. Because I don't play with a specific team. I just play all of the fun match-ups on the schedule and try to build each team as best I can.

So while I understand the posters who treat franchise mode as a coaching career, that's just not the way I enjoy playing sports games.

I'm 10 years deep in a NBA2k Association. I control all of the teams. I flip coins in the playoffs to decide which team I will use for each game. It really immerses me in the action, so much that I get caught up in the fun of the entire league. I get to play with all of the stars. All of the emerging stars. My favorite team are the Orlando Magic, yet they haven't won a title in my Association. I don't cheat to help them win.

Following the entire league is what I want out of my Madden franchise too. If I cant use franchise mode as a God mode, then the Connected Career thing is virtually useless for me. I don't want to just use one team, because that's not how I have fun.

Also, the 'realistic' argument holds little weight, IMO. How realistic is it for a coach to be unable to watch games from around the league?

As far as cheating, can't a user just keep simulating scores until they got the one they wanted? And even so, why does it matter for an offline franchise?

# 497 TreFacTor @ 06/19/12 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DorianDonP


	Also, the 'realistic' argument holds little weight, IMO. How realistic is it for a coach to be unable to watch games from around the league? As far as cheating, can't a user just keep simulating scores until they got the one they wanted? And even so, why does it matter for an offline franchise?

I don't see where the idea came from the offline CC is restricted for the sake of "realism". That's negated by the simple fact that you create yourself to use in the game. If they wanted realism, how about getting all of the penalties in the game, line interaction, remove mirrored animations, there are so many other things that can bring realism, locking you into a restricted play mode in a sports title is one of the worst ideas to get this accomplished in my opinion.

# 498 Jarodd21 @ 06/19/12 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CRMosier_LM


	Well considering it is EA sponsored... And EA managed... And EA tracked, you.can guarantee that they are looking for ideas and thoughts there first. That's why fantasy drafts are the top votes right now. Sitting back and criticizing and arguing amongst each other doesnt accomplish anything. Make the effort to make them listen. Take some initiative of it is that important to you. Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2

They know what the offline gamers want.. I know the seen the feedback about the missing features on this site and the EA forum. It's just too late for them to do anything about it this year(So they say).. So I guess the offline gamers have to wait until Madden 14 or 15 to get the complete game we been looking for(Hopefully) combined with the great features they added this year..

# 499 DJ @ 06/19/12 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	It was part of your point. You used incorrect information to help solidify your point. Regarding your greater point, you assume that everyone plays like you. I dont find the way you play franchise entertaining at ALL. Just as dumbfounded as you are that someone would play with multiple teams, I find it equally confusing that someone would want to pay 60 dollars to play with one team. When I buy Madden, I buy access to a video game version of the NFL. I find it silly to limit myself to one team at all times or to be forced to restart a franchise every time I want to control a different team. With that said, I dont have a problem if you decide to play with 1 team....so I have no understanding of why anyone would have a problem with me controlling 32 teams offline. I dont play 32 team franchises or other teams games to make it so my favorite team wins. I play it because sometimes I want to play with the Patriots and other days I want to play with the Broncos. I think this variety is also why I rarely burn out on games like most people do at OS.

Yeah, at the end of the day it's a video game and we should ALL have the OPTION to play the game HOW WE SEE FIT.

I typically only control one team in Franchise, as I find 30- or 32-team control (depending on the sport) too time consuming and overwhelming. But, I'd never try and force MY way of playing a game onto someone like Aholbert, who obviously prefers to play the game a different way.

As long as we can both find a way to get enjoyment out of the game, that's all that should really matter.

# 500 N51_rob @ 06/19/12 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CRMosier_LM


	I can understand that stance... But if it doesn't make it next year and they say "this, this, and this were the most requested features" then you will have made yourself up a creek without a paddle. Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2

For all the people snickering at the game changers idea site. I will admit when it first launched I was one of them This right here is probably what you to take notice of and pay attention to. Like I said I thought the idea was BS, but I have been keeping an eye on it. In addition to random posters, I have seen guys like Emdotfrisk, Shopmaster and ShaunLMason posting their idea on there. Again, though I was skeptical and thought they were giving the sight validity, but it seems like this it the way that EA is going to be taking and using our feedback going forward we need to embrace this for better or worse. Because people are gonna be pissed if an idea that is not "sim" gets added because it got the most votes....

That said, there needs to be some policing over there too, because I just went to the recent and there are 1,300 idea across all EA sports games and you view them 10 at a time, so there is the chance that good ones get buried.

Just to reiterate my point and the point that Casey made, if this is one of the ways that EA is soliciting feedback, then OS should be very active on that site with for example LBz "speeding up the DE animations and disengage animations" idea. Which is a really good one. And if this site/idea falls through we can say we tried and were attempting to be a part of the solution not the problem

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