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Madden NFL 13 CCM Will Not Allow You to Play Other Games on the Schedule, Only Yours

04:33 PM - June 12, 2012 by Steve_OS

Because I have been asked about this via Twitter and email so often, I wanted to make sure people were aware.

Justin Dewiel, Community Manager for EA Sports, just confirmed via Twitter (just follow the timeline), if you coach a team, you can no longer play other games on the schedule, only the game(s) on your own schedule.

For example. Rgiles asked if he could coach the Cowboys in CCM, but play the Patriots vs. Browns game.

Justin stated that it is not possible, because CCM is based around you and your character (coach or player).

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# 441 mwjr @ 06/15/12 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by poohty_t


	offline play isnt that good anyways, its about time they did more for online franchise.

67% of OS gamers would disagree...

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ine-gamer.html

# 442 speedy9386 @ 06/15/12 12:43 PM

I hope that at least there will be some sort of ticker or segment to show the scores of other games around the league during your games like in NCAA.

# 443 TreFacTor @ 06/15/12 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mwjr


	67% of OS gamers would disagree... http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ine-gamer.html

Maybe offline was gutted to specifically piss off 67% of operation sports members? Hmmm the plot thickens.

# 444 Aftershock9958 @ 06/15/12 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mwjr


	67% of OS gamers would disagree... http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ine-gamer.html

That could possibly be attributed to the fact that in online play now you'll more than likely come up against people who are uninterested in playing any type of realistically while online franchises were empty and broken.

It also doesn't take into account that the poll doesn't specify a particular game.

Pretty much I'm not saying there's more online Madden players than offline or that it's the other way around, just that this poll doesn't necessarily signify anything.

# 445 TreFacTor @ 06/15/12 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Aftershock9958


	That could possibly be attributed to the fact that in online play now you'll more than likely come up against people who are uninterested in playing any type of realistically while online franchises were empty and broken. It also doesn't take into account that the poll doesn't specify a particular game. Pretty much I'm not saying there's more online Madden players than offline or that it's the other way around, just that this poll doesn't necessarily signify anything.

wow......just......wow.

# 446 LowerWolf @ 06/15/12 04:07 PM

So far, none of the removed features really affect me. But it still irks me, just on principle, that they're removing so many things.

I'm wondering, if I show up at EA with $10 and say "sorry, I don't have time to pay you the other $50" can I still get a copy of Madden 13?

I'm still excited about the game, but really and truly this is beginning to feel more and more like a beta for Madden 14.

# 447 mwjr @ 06/15/12 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TreFacTor


	Maybe offline was gutted to specifically piss off 67% of operation sports members? Hmmm the plot thickens.

I knew we'd get to the bottom of this!

Forget the Magic Bullet or any 9/11 conspiracy. THIS is the conspiracy we must solve.

# 448 Aftershock9958 @ 06/15/12 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TreFacTor


	wow......just......wow. :

It would be easy to discuss this with you if you'd explain your astonishment at the fact that variables effect polls rather than just making an arrogant comment.

# 449 cuttingteeth @ 06/15/12 04:26 PM

The real problem is people who thought they were getting bashed and then turn around to bash said other person. A focused read will prove most everyone is just bashing the game and/or developer decisions first and foremost, and that misreading posts is leading to the hate.

# 450 TreFacTor @ 06/15/12 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tazdevil20


	Let me preface this by first saying that in no way, shape or form am I condoning the removal of features. Trust me, I've been victimized by a lot more than just removal of features as an avid football gaming enthusiast. I completely understand it. That being said, let's be reasonable about something here. I am strictly an online guy. I do not care for random head to head or play now, but I do care about playing humans in my own personal community (online league and head to head). I've been friends with a relatively large group of guys for a long while who enjoy playing against each other in a league and head to head. We all follow the rules set forth and it makes for a very enjoyable experience. I realize you guys want to make this an "offline" vs. "online" thing. Yes - the numbers on OS were staggeringly lopsided in favor of "offline". However, let me tell you, EVERYTHING is headed in an online direction. It has been for a long time. People enjoy playing games with other gamers. EA is not forcing you into this direction, but they are embracing the direction of where the technology is going. Outside of OS, a lot more gamers are playing online. They want to be able to manage leagues/franchises from their device, do drafts from their phone or pick up free agents when they are at work. They want to interact with friends and give them ** about a bad draft choice or a steal in free agency, etc. etc. You guys who are turning this into a battle between online and offline are missing the boat completely. It's not an "us" vs. "them". EA designed their modes wrong from the beginning, and did not leave the flexibility to easily support online capability in their franchise mode. It required 2 rewrites. One was to add online franchise on the server side (madden 10). Then they realized changing code in 3 different places was not sustainable (they were right by the way). Then they did it again with CCM. The idea that they "removed" certain features just to cater to the online crowd is not correct. I realize that's what it seems like, but it's not. I am no EA apologist and I am not at all a fan of Tiburon, but I am able to be objective. This mode rewrite was something that should have been done years ago, and it should have been released complete (without removing features). However, it is the right way to go. Other games are already way past these issues, but Tiburon has wasted 7 years of this console generation and produced a lot of bad products with Madden releases. We've seen 3 different "leadership" changes, 3 different marketing campaigns and a whole slew of incomplete, bug ridden, arcade football games. This was the first thing they've done this generation that was actually the right line of thinking. They did not really "remove" those features per se. They will undoubtedly return next year. This does not make it easier to swallow, nor does it justify doing it. I'm just trying to shed a little reasoning here on the subject. So please, those of you who keep bashing the online folks because you feel like they should matter less than you, you are not helping anything and you aren't really correct either. You can go to a bunch of other sites out there that cater more to the online sports gamer and your poll would be completely reversed.** The fact remains that people who choose to play offline or online should not be alienated from the game depending on which mode they prefer to play. That being said, you are going to see more and more online capabilities added to sports games, because that is where the technology is headed. This doesn't mean it has to change the way you play the game. Online is not synonymous with "league" or "cheeser" like many of you think. It's more affiliated phrases and words like "sharing, accessing and joining up". Just food for thought...

I was with you till this part....reread that to yourself and then ask yourself does this site "cater"...to a specific madden gamer?

On a side note that was one of the most oxymoronic statements I've ever read. I like vanilla ice cream, I post at a forums specifically for vanilla ice cream in a sugar cone...poll: do you prefer sugar cones 90% says yes... that how your statement reads.

If this site doesn't cater to a specific madden player type; I contend it's poll is even more relevant because of it's diversity and not as you suggest, biased.

I'm all for online improvements. Those guys have had to wait a long time. I haven't played online since 09 and haven't even paid attention to those improvements. I have been paying attention to the offline portion in terms of game play, customization and depth. I was excited until hearing of the locked offline. That's my and many others only issue. The problem is anyone who isn't all in is seen as whinny little so and so and needs to go suck their thumb in the corner. The squeaky wheel gets the oil

# 451 bigsmallwood @ 06/15/12 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tazdevil20


	honestly Tre, I'm with you 100% on this here. For me, it's all about gameplay first and foremost. I am, and have been, extremely unhappy about Madden's football on the field for a long time. I'm still waiting for penalties, realistic player movement (still not solved this year), no more zig zag running, a real challenge system, a real pocket and realistic line play. Those are just a few. It's 2012, another year without all of those. It's sad when I have to put in an unlicensed game that is 5 years old to have all of those things, while the NFL "simulation" does not have them. So trust me, I know all about being frustrated. The fact is, everyone has been affected equally by Tiburon's inability to make a football simulation. It sucks for everyone.

Oh the challenge system...I've been waiting for that forever...and ever! Just to be able to directly challenge what I KNOW needs to be challenged in a play.

# 452 mwjr @ 06/15/12 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tazdevil20


	EA designed their modes wrong from the beginning, and did not leave the flexibility to easily support online capability in their franchise mode. It required 2 rewrites. One was to add online franchise on the server side (madden 10). Then they realized changing code in 3 different places was not sustainable (they were right by the way). Then they did it again with CCM. The idea that they "removed" certain features just to cater to the online crowd is not correct.

I agree with this...somewhat.

I even suggested this in another post, although not as eloquently as you have here. There are certain things available in offline franchise (e.g. the ability to edit players, the ability to manage/run more than 1 team, the ability to import NCAA players) that do not fit into an online league because people would completely abuse them. When EA realized they didn't have time to figure out how to sort this out, they basically said, "Well, let's leave it until next year."

Or at least I hope so.

That said, if things are indeed moving online (which I agree with) then I don't think it's a total stretch to think that a game producer would indeed eliminate some of those things available in offline play. Thanks to the wonder of microtransactions, online play has the potential to be a significant revenue-maker. It wouldn't be the first time a company (video game or otherwise) eschewed one consumer group in order ro drive profit margins.

That's the conspiracy theorist in me. I hope like crazy I'm wrong and that these things will be in Madden in the future.

# 453 Da_Czar @ 06/15/12 06:07 PM

We will be discussing some of the pitfalls and advantages of CCM tonight if you guys want to be heard call in. Talking other stuff also but we will get to CCM. Just an FYI.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/daczar/...and-madden-ccm

# 454 Jarodd21 @ 06/15/12 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mwjr


	67% of OS gamers would disagree... http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ine-gamer.html

I was waiting on someone to bring that thread up. It really was common sense IMO.. There's alot of people who don't have online and like to chill at home and play and offline franchise whether it's by themselves or with family and friends. You can see from all the complaints on here about all the things being removed. I haven't been this mad with Madden since 06 with all the stuff that was taken away. I been a loyal supporter for years.

I'm not saying one mode is better then the other because everybody has there own preference on how they play the game(and I'm happy with the improvements to online and gameplay) but when I see comments about the offline stuff being in the in the minority of what gamers want I just laugh about it.. Obviously that isn't the case and it's going to get worst when alot of people get the game who don't be on websites to get all the insight like we do and see everything that was taken away(or not added back) that's been on the game for years.

# 455 prime21time37 @ 06/15/12 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EaglesFan1825


	Holy cow. I might as well buy Madden 97.

im not sure why that was so funny but i laughed pretty hard for a minute

# 456 bigbob @ 06/15/12 07:48 PM

I fall into the category of whom this doesn't effect.

I play Franchise Mode to play as a single team, or Superstar Mode as a single player.

# 457 marshallfever @ 06/15/12 09:25 PM

People are so complain-ie, my goodness. Their actually trying to give us something new and unique, and all the guys in these forums can do nothing but complain.

It makes sense in terms of realism.....The coach of the Patriots will only coach the Patriots!!!!!!!!!!!!

# 458 Jax_Jaguars904 @ 06/15/12 09:29 PM

The only people complaining must be the users who try n cheat the system by controlling 2 teams n getting double the unlocked ratings and such. Get over it because now u only got one shot so if u can't make the superbowl then its realistic no matter how good ur team is on paper jus like in real life so play hard or go home, well go out since you'll be at home already lol trolls

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# 459 SteelerSpartan @ 06/15/12 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jax_Jaguars904


	The only people complaining must be the users who try n cheat the system by controlling 2 teams n getting double the unlocked ratings and such. Get over it because now u only got one shot so if u can't make the superbowl then its realistic no matter how good ur team is on paper jus like in real life so play hard or go home, well go out since you'll be at home already lol trolls jax_jaguars904 voice via tapatalk

Can we get an order of BAN over here

# 460 Jarodd21 @ 06/15/12 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jax_Jaguars904


	The only people complaining must be the users who try n cheat the system by controlling 2 teams n getting double the unlocked ratings and such. Get over it because now u only got one shot so if u can't make the superbowl then its realistic no matter how good ur team is on paper jus like in real life so play hard or go home, well go out since you'll be at home already lol trolls jax_jaguars904 voice via tapatalk

You are delusional if you really believe most guys intention is to cheat the AI.. Alot of guys control teams to make sure the AI is on point with there decision making off the field so they can be challenged when the play the game instead of dealing with alot of teams full of garbage UDFAs which results into the USER smashing the CPU on a regular and so what if some guys like to exploit the AI like you mention. It's there game and they can do whatever they like with it. You can't put EVERYBODY in that category so you need to quit trolling with those types of comments..

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