Madden NFL 13 CCM Will Not Allow You to Play Other Games on the Schedule, Only Yours

[magnusjolnaes]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

No it doesn't make perfect sense. It's your game, if you want to skew the results of YOUR franchise then that's your prerogative. Why would EA care if you take the Cardinals to the Super Bowl in you offline franchise?

Wow okay, it seems alot of you guys misunderstood, what I was saying.

My point was not that you are all cheating (or myself for that matter). But I'll give you, it probably wasn't the best example I came up with.

Anyway, my point is that it makes sense to not be able to play other games, than your own. I too would love to watch any game I want but I don't see why I should be able to control Tom Brady if my QB is Peyton Manning.

With that said, I'm all for as many options as possible, I just don't see this as a deal breaker. But I see how it can be for some of you.

[87Birdman]

Quote: Originally Posted by wheelman990

What does a physics engine have to do with player editing, and only being able to control one team? I don't see how that even relates to this thread at all. It's like someone else saying who cares about rtp, the qb's have authentic throwing motions! Or comparing the great artwork to loss of features and defending the decision. Just because one person feels rtp is all that matters, and editing players is nothing important by comparison to them doesn't mean the next guy will agree. It also is not excuse to kill off features we have fought for on OS for years. It doesn't take much to notice how many posts and views both the player editing thread and this thread have received on these topics. Also how many people are upset or confused compared to the few that really aren't. Just read the threads and judge yourself what others are saying. Some of you have posted they think many are over reacting. Well, it must be really the majority over reacting then based on what I have read, so certainly something's wrong with EA's decision on this matter. And if anyone thinks the casual players won't care about this stuff, you are fooling yourselves. Casual players love blowing up stats on their favorite players, and of course a casual player would want to play with more then one team. playing with one team with limited control for realism is more of a sim player thing. I personally like CCM as a mode option itself, but it is a terrible replacement for franchise IMO. Franchise was about user customization, and being able to play the way the user saw fit. This was what was said by Josh Looman last year with Madden 12 BTW I would comment on this, but I think the guy in the post before me did a pretty awesome job with a replay

I agree taking these things out but that logic with the casual gamer is a little off. I remember when I was a casual gamer and did things like that, and to be honest if I am correct I can still do those things just not it CC. Which back then didn't matter because play now was what I did. So I could blow up my guys to be superstars and play with who ever I want against who ever I wanted. That was what playnow was for, and if they still have the play the superbowl than most casual gamers like that won't play CC anyways. Because most of that stuff is is geared more towards sim then. Drafting wouldn't really matter and if they are just doing it for the blown up stats and playing with what ever team they want play now is still in tact.

Now not adding things in that were there in the past may not have been the best move, but if they feel that the percentage of that group was lower then the percentage of online users may have been the reason for the shift. Because with an amount of time starting over they could have waited another year to make sure everything was in but then online would have probably been left in the dark and very few things would change. NCAA 12 to NCAA 13 is probably what happens when you split forces to work on starting from the ground up. There is a lot of discussion that not much changed from 12 to 13 and that is probably cause to them working in the back ground on remodeling their set up.

Madden though probably felt that putting out another game that didn't change much and left online franchises bare again would lose more customers than the plan choice they went with. Business discissions needed to be made and with deadlines somethings just don't make the cut when trying to figure out what to add. Because there are always large groups that are going to complain if something doesn't make it. like things that are considered small to some people like sock and sleeve length.

Sucks things like this happen all the time in the business world, and if your in a small group of it things like this happen, and it stinks. Hopefully they get these features either patched in or working correctly by next year.

[ccdeville]

Quote: Originally Posted by magnusjolnaes

Wow okay, it seems alot of you guys misunderstood, what I was saying. My point was not that you are all cheating (or myself for that matter). But I'll give you, it probably wasn't the best example I came up with. Anyway, my point is that it makes sense to not be able to play other games, than your own. I too would love to watch any game I want but I don't see why I should be able to control Tom Brady if my QB is Peyton Manning. With that said, I'm all for as many options as possible, I just don't see this as a deal breaker. But I see how it can be for some of you.

I know what you're trying to say and no disrespect to you, yet our main point is that we deserve to have options the same as we've always had. If you only want to play with Denver then just click Denver and play with them. If i want to play with multiple teams I should be able to do so. My gaming experience doesn't affect your gaming experience one iota. Yet limiting me to one team may not affect your gaming experience yet it now affects mine greatly.

My favorite team is the Dallas Cowboys i'm a diehard, yet i don't really want to play as the Cowboys for every game on the schedule i get bored with that. I may want to go to the Monday night matchup Patriots vs Jets and see if I can beat the Pats as NY. If i lose (as i probably should) that's fine. I may want to play against my division rival NY Giants as the Atlanta Falcons and risk losing to them and the outcome now affects my team in the standings. I find it more exciting to see Tom Brady throw for 400yds than just seeing meaningless simulated numbers. I'd rather be beaten by the Giants in an important game than just see it simulated.
But playing just as the Cowboys makes it feel as if the rest of the league really isn't involved.

Others are concerned about editing the way they want, playing against friends etc. This is all taken away.
And when it comes to getting franchise moves correct and accurate I trust myself much more than I trust the CPU.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by magnusjolnaes

Okay, I think I made a comment in this thread earlier, but I'm gonna give it another try. Though many of you may not like this and though it might not have been the smartest thing to do to leave out this feature it's perfectly natural. I'ts actually the same with FIFA, I believe. You can only play your own games. And it makes perfect sense. Example: I'm a Broncos fan, so I decide to create myself and coach the Broncos. I make it to the Super Bowl, and in the NFC championship it's Green Bay Packers vs. the awful Cardinals who somehow made it to the NFC Championship. So I decide to turn down the difficulty and torch the Packers with John Skelton in the NFC Championship because it gives me an easier Super Bowl. Yeah, that's right. The coach of the Denver Broncos called the plays in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP! Say what? I know that many of you wouldn't do that, and simply likes to play exciting matchups such as Steelers-Ravens or Saints-Panthers. But honestly... Where's the fun in determining other games outcome than your own? If you ask me, it's neither fun nor logical which is why I find it natural to leave it out. I'm having a harder time understanding why we can't edit players to our liking. Not that I've ever been using that feature but still. Anyway, that's my five cents. You probably don't care, but now you know :P Oh, and cheer up: Football season is coming!

Actually Fifa gives people both options. In Fifa, you can play a season mode where you can control ALL teams and play any game in your league.

[magnusjolnaes]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Actually Fifa gives people both options. In Fifa, you can play a season mode where you can control ALL teams and play any game in your league.

Alright never did that. Didn't think it was possible. But still not the point

[slick589]

Quote: Originally Posted by magnusjolnaes

Wow okay, it seems alot of you guys misunderstood, what I was saying. My point was not that you are all cheating (or myself for that matter). But I'll give you, it probably wasn't the best example I came up with. Anyway, my point is that it makes sense to not be able to play other games, than your own. I too would love to watch any game I want but I don't see why I should be able to control Tom Brady if my QB is Peyton Manning. With that said, I'm all for as many options as possible, I just don't see this as a deal breaker. But I see how it can be for some of you.

Why should i be able to control tom brady if my qb is peyton manning? Simple i just paid 60 bucks for the f'in game

[goravens2052]

Quote: Originally Posted by magnusjolnaes

Wow okay, it seems alot of you guys misunderstood, what I was saying. My point was not that you are all cheating (or myself for that matter). But I'll give you, it probably wasn't the best example I came up with. Anyway, my point is that it makes sense to not be able to play other games, than your own. I too would love to watch any game I want but I don't see why I should be able to control Tom Brady if my QB is Peyton Manning. With that said, I'm all for as many options as possible, I just don't see this as a deal breaker. But I see how it can be for some of you.

You misunderstood him. The keyword he used was Offline. I can understand what your talking about if it came to online play, then yes you shouldn't be able to control Tom Brady. Though if you are playing offline, why should EA care what I do in an OFFLINE Franchise.

Also, and this is something I want to figure out. Why is there this misconception that people want editing so that they can make everyone a 99, or they want to play other games because it helps their team out or gives them an easier Super Bowl? Just because some offline players cheat the system others do not and use it only to fix progression, or to play out their own storylines and their own NFL.

[ccdeville]

Quote: Originally Posted by goravens2052

Why is there this misconception that people want editing so that they can make everyone a 99, or they want to play other games because it helps their team out or gives them an easier Super Bowl? Just because some offline players cheat the system others do not and use it only to fix progression, or to play out their own storylines and their own NFL.

100% correct. Most of us just want a good clean NFL experience. If there are a few 10yr olds that want to edit everyone to a 99 i'm not going to play them anyway.