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Madden NFL 13 CCM Will Not Allow You to Play Other Games on the Schedule, Only Yours

04:33 PM - June 12, 2012 by Steve_OS

Because I have been asked about this via Twitter and email so often, I wanted to make sure people were aware.

Justin Dewiel, Community Manager for EA Sports, just confirmed via Twitter (just follow the timeline), if you coach a team, you can no longer play other games on the schedule, only the game(s) on your own schedule.

For example. Rgiles asked if he could coach the Cowboys in CCM, but play the Patriots vs. Browns game.

Justin stated that it is not possible, because CCM is based around you and your character (coach or player).

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# 221 DeuceDouglas @ 06/12/12 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Herky


	Connected Careers is sounding more like a RPG and arcade as more info comes out. I'm all for a revamped progression system, but why go almost total RPG? Just progress guys they way they did on last gen with tweaks. The arcade factor is that you have to create a coach or player and cannot control the front office staff moves. If you get fired, you either have to get hired someplace else, or "game over". If I am off base here please let me know but from things I have read that's the summary of Connected Careers.

You don't have to create a coach or player. You can take over an existing coach and have total control over front office moves. You also have the ability to turn coach firings off or if you are fired, simply take over for the next coach of your team if you want to play 30 years with the same team.

# 222 lgxjames @ 06/12/12 11:49 PM

not something i care about but i could understand if this upsets people

# 223 moneal2001 @ 06/12/12 11:50 PM

actually herky you can recreate your coach and take your team back over or take control of their new one or even turn off firing. and you can set progression to auto and it will be more like last gen than the way it is in 12

# 224 cuttingteeth @ 06/12/12 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by moneal2001


	@Strawhat have any of those had a franchise mode as stale as madden's? have any of those completely rebuilt their franchise, superstar, and online modes? i don't like them taking the features and haven't decided if im gonna get it yet, but i understand their logic of getting a working mode into the game with features that work for offline and online before adding ones specific to either. the foundation is now there to add those features back and even add new ones easier than before. its easier and more efficient to keep up one code base than three.

See, the last part of what you said is where everyone has to logically call BS, though. It surely IS easier to code one base instead of three...but then they should logically have triple the time to get things done. They're excuse is that they ran out of time, though. Those kinds of contradictions have been mounting since last week.

# 225 Herky @ 06/12/12 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by themassacre771.1


	I don't know why people are hating on ccm? It has a lot of great things in it and looks really good. The issue is what got taken out. That is what we should be focused on. Not bashing the potential career mode we have been wanting for the last 4 years.

I think it's because Looman said that "franchise was dead" on Twitter hints that this CC system IS franchise now, along with created superstar and online play.

I think it's a terrible idea to ball everything together.

# 226 crenk @ 06/12/12 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by themassacre771.1


	I don't know why people are hating on ccm? It has a lot of great things in it and looks really good. The issue is what got taken out. That is what we should be focused on. Not bashing the potential career mode we have been wanting for the last 4 years.

I totally agree CC is not the problem. The fact that CC is replacing the mode that in my opinion WAS madden is the issue. I have never played superstar....just don't get it, don't like it, but also have never complained about it, b/c my mode was always there to play.

# 227 Herky @ 06/12/12 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by moneal2001


	actually herky you can recreate your coach and take your team back over or take control of their new one or even turn off firing. and you can set progression to auto and it will be more like last gen than the way it is in 12

So if I take the Vikings, I can create Leslie Frazier and if I don't win games, I have to create another coach to take his place?

That isn't terrible I suppose, but I liked being able to build a staff from real life coaches. Loved being able to hire a HC, OC, DC, and ST.

What's the deal on cutting players and signing free agents? Am I still free to do that?

# 228 roadman @ 06/12/12 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KBLover


	What I don't get is why didn't they do this a long time ago? Why not just have ONE franchise and a toggle/menu for if you want to take it online or not long before now? Why hasn't online franchise just be a mirror image of offline - just...online? Why didn't they work on a revamp before now? Why wasn't M10 the revamp? Or M09, or whichever was the first one for the PS3? I don't know - it just like a lot of things don't make sense.

Well, I don't know how close I am with this, but Josh worked on HC09 with Donny Moore. He came back to Madden 10 later in the process. There wasn't an upgrade with offline franchise in Madden 11. Madden 12, there were some features added to franchise mode, while him and his staff were in the process of developing CC while 12 was being manufactured. He said he's been thinking of CC for the last 4 yrs and it was approved a few years ago.

That could be it, but I'm not privy to any of the above, just speculation.

# 229 themassacre771.1 @ 06/12/12 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Herky


	I think it's because Looman said that "franchise was dead" on Twitter hints that this CC system IS franchise now, along with created superstar and online play. I think it's a terrible idea to ball everything together.

Ah, got you. Yeah, he doesn't know how to communicate effectively and says things that make people angry (little things).

# 230 Aftershock9958 @ 06/12/12 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KBLover


	What I don't get is why didn't they do this a long time ago? Why not just have ONE franchise and a toggle/menu for if you want to take it online or not long before now? Why hasn't online franchise just be a mirror image of offline - just...online? Why didn't they work on a revamp before now? Why wasn't M10 the revamp? Or M09, or whichever was the first one for the PS3? I don't know - it just like a lot of things don't make sense.

I don't really follow other collections or sports games as in depth as I do Madden so maybe this is just the way it is in the video game dev world, but it seems to me like there's been a lot of turnover in the development crew with this game, so the easy answer (to me anyway) could be that the teams prior to the current one just didn't have the focus or vision that there appears to be now.

# 231 DeuceDouglas @ 06/12/12 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Herky


	So if I take the Vikings, I can create Leslie Frazier and if I don't win games, I have to create another coach to take his place? That isn't terrible I suppose, but I liked being able to build a staff from real life coaches. Loved being able to hire a HC, OC, DC, and ST. What's the deal on cutting players and signing free agents? Am I still free to do that?

You don't create him, you just play basically as him. And if you get fired, which you have the ability to turn off, you can take control of the next coach of the Vikings. I don't believe there is any more OC, DC, ST, etc. but those really didn't change anything before anyway. And you still have complete freedom over signing, trading, cutting, and drafting as you had in M12.

# 232 roadman @ 06/12/12 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Herky


	What's the deal on cutting players and signing free agents? Am I still free to do that?

Yes, you are able to do all the front office moves during the season and off-season.

# 233 DirkJesusNowitzki @ 06/13/12 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cuttingteeth


	Madden 13...now featuring: No full customization of rosters. No Editing of players in CCM No Import Draft Classes No 32 team control No Fantasy Draft No offline co-op play No custom playbooks No playing games except those of the ONE team you select for CCM ....I wish I had the gif of Bart Scott saying, "CAN'T WAIT."

1. As CCM's roster should be viewed as an online roster, I'm good with that.
2. Same as above.
3. Same as above.
4. Doesn't affect me.
5. See #1-4.
6. In past years this would suck *** bad. But I don't have roommates anymore, no little brothers living with me, we play online now. So IDGAF about that being taken out.
7. Good, less cheese. I was perfectly ok with no custom books in online franchise/communities in M12.
8. Again, IDGAF. I am sure some will miss this ability.

Personally, even if I gave a crap about any of that stuff, personally I would look at what we're getting in return before griping. After a few years of being told that online franchise is just not a popular enough mode for them to spend time on, I am ecstatic that they have added so much. And really, the same logic applies to the stuff they took out. Only a tiny minority would care.

Maybe they can add in via patch or before the game ships, an ability to do most of that stuff for OFFLINE CC's only. But, can you make an offline CC an online one at a later date? If so, then I am ok with them leaving everything out. I can understand a lot of those omissions to prevent BS in online CC's, but offline ones you would probably be ok.

But maybe there are balance issues, too. If some of the challenges for XP revolve around leading the league in certain categories, why should you be able to control your competition? If you edit a bunch of ratings, maybe it messes up XP. And I can't imagine them having imported NCAA rosters that aren't all goofy ratings wise. Furthermore building so much stuff into the CC mode like scouting, stories, etc and making it so dynamic, makes stuff like that impossible.

tl;dr - full featured online leagues > all that stuff

# 234 Herky @ 06/13/12 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	Well, I don't know how close I am with this, but Josh worked on HC09 with Donny Moore. He came back to Madden 10 later in the process. There wasn't an upgrade with offline franchise in Madden 11. Madden 12, there were some features added to franchise mode, while him and his staff were in the process of developing CC while 12 was being manufactured. He said he's been thinking of CC for the last 4 yrs and it was approved a few years ago. That could be it, but I'm not privy to any of the above, just speculation.

I think that 10 was supposed to be the revamp but never happened. Maybe that was just because the Head Coach guys were coming on board but I do remember that franchise was supposed to be improved then and wasn't.

Head Coach 09 was pretty darn fun and it's clear that the ideas from that series were never intended to make it into Madden. They had a great base set for a solid franchise in Madden too which saddens me.

I still was hoping Create A Stadium was coming back in franchise, and that's from the PS2/Xbox days.

# 235 themassacre771.1 @ 06/13/12 12:18 AM

Kevin Durant is just scary
edit: oops wrong thread.

# 236 TreFacTor @ 06/13/12 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tazdevil20


	Oh KB my friend... If you only knew... You are asking the million dollar question. I remember coming on here when madden 10 was coming out saying that was how they should build it. People were calling me crazy around that time. Ah, the memories... I agree with you though. Had they done a lot of things differently long ago, Madden would be a real quality game instead of what we have now. Madden 13 might turn out to be a decent game, but the football is still very screwed up and it has a ways to go. As long as they keep signing on the dotted line with the NFL, they can make us wait as long as they want.

My idea was that every mode have the ability to play against a human option.

Playing Superstar and want to play that weeks game vs a human, select play game vs human and it searches for a match

Playing franchise and your playing against the Browns that week (no one online plays with them, but there sure are people that will be building them up offline) select play vs human and the game would search for a match.

This was back in Madden 10 when offline didn't get upgraded like promised. There wouldn't have been a need to remove the features they have.

# 237 TreFacTor @ 06/13/12 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal


	That's what Live Opponent was in Madden 07, which I keep ranting about. lol.

Saved me time loading all the old ones up to see which it was and what the feature was called

# 238 LionsFanNJ @ 06/13/12 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	Oh, 2k12 didn't include an important online feature from 2k11 and people were up in arms about that. I thought it was called The Crib, but I could be wrong on the name of it.

2k12 removed the My Crew mode out of My Player. It was explained in detail why it was removed though.

# 239 roadman @ 06/13/12 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LionsFanNJ


	2k12 removed the My Crew mode out of My Player. It was explained in detail why it was removed though.

Your right, that was what it was called.

It might have been explained, but that didn't stop the firestorm.

# 240 SkinsBoYee @ 06/13/12 01:02 AM

Offline Gamer here that plays various games on the schedule, controlling all the moves for all 32 teams and well, after all the joy of hearing the improvements to gameplay, the monopoly pulls out all the great things that I enjoyed from their franchise for the past few years when game play was mediocre at best.

What I don't get is that EA had NFL HEAD COACH. This is basically what connected careers is all about now...is it not? Is it not NFL HEAD COACH with the ability to actual play the game now? Isn't that all it is????

Not being able to play the game in the fashion I have been able to for the past 10 years even with the new shiny upgrades, equals a NO BUY for me as well. You can not sell us the 2013 version of a car that we love after taking off the wheels, steering wheel, seats and radio and call it the same car! AM I TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!

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