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NBA Elite 11 News Post

OS'ers jtdribbles25, 23 and Jano have posted their impressions of NBA Elite 11, from their hands-on time with the game at the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event.

23 has posted a ton of video from the game on his Youtube channel. I just wanted to gather all of the videos together on one page, to make it easier to find and view.

We appreciate all the work 23, as well as the impressions, all 3 of you have given us.










To view the rest of them (17 in total), head over to 23's Youtube Channel, right here.

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# 261 da ThRONe @ 08/31/10 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by erickonasis
totally different situation...u see random players throwing up half court shots depending on the situation in a real life game...However you dont see Shaq dunking from the FT line
My point is if Shaq wanted to he could do so(attempt)?. Just like I can pick a player on LIVE 10 get the in bound pass and heave 80 foot attempts at the basket ,but I wouldnt because thats stupid. Same here don't take my ability to do something just because it wont work.
 
# 262 da ThRONe @ 08/31/10 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocboyz101
But nash and fisher can actually shoot halfcourt shots..
And they both can attempt a dunk. And I wouldnt be surprised if either one could dunk.
 
# 263 erickonasis @ 08/31/10 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by da ThRONe
My point is if Shaq wanted to he could do so(attempt)?. Just like I can pick a player on LIVE 10 get the in bound pass and heave 80 foot attempts at the basket ,but I wouldnt because thats stupid. Same here don't take my ability to do something just because it wont work.
Just curious why would you even want to see that in a game? what exactly does someone attempting to dunk from the ft line with Shaq add to the Game?
 
# 264 da ThRONe @ 08/31/10 05:20 PM
People what is so "unrealistic" about attempting a dunk? I know 3 year-olds that can attempt a dunk.

I dont want Boozer completing a dunk from the FT line anymore than anybody in here. But if a user wants to attempt to I see no reason why he shouldnt be able to.
 
# 265 HoosierDaddy @ 08/31/10 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 23
You know man, basketball is a very artistic game in nature and is not without its limits. As I said, if I can do anything with anybody as with some of the stuff I saw, then why not just call the game EA Basketball 11, but I understand the clash in philosophy and

This is exactly why some people will enjoy the game and some people wont buy it.
Same could be said with dribbling. We had the debate while we were at community day about what should happen when big men dribble the ball. Yes, they obviously CAN dribble between their legs, but how often do you see it? It's either slow down the animation and decrease the success of such a move and eventually depending on pressure lose the ball or you allow them to pull off the same types of moves that PGs can do at will. Just because they CAN do it, doesn't mean it's realistic. My whole point is, how often do you see it while you're watching NBA basketball, very rarely. So the game should reflect as much.

Shot attempts are a different story, you CHOOSE to take that shot. That's something that is more in your control, per say. You never see those unless it's a last second shot attempt, but when you see players who never dribble or dunk like that, it seriously adds to the unauthentic nature of a game.
 
# 266 da ThRONe @ 08/31/10 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by erickonasis
Just curious why would you even want to see that in a game? what exactly does someone attempting to dunk from the ft line with Shaq add to the Game?
Control. Thats all. Once again I'm not broken up about it one way or the other. I want to attempt any and everything with every player. I just want the outcome of that act to be based on the players size, weight and, ratings.
 
# 267 erickonasis @ 08/31/10 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by real baller
yep sniff457 u exactly right people are gonna have to start taking responsibility for their sloppy garbage gameplay if u wanna shoot fade-away with shaq and perkins go ahead shoot yaself out da game lol dummy thank u ea for giving these arcade ballers da poison to kill theyself
So in other words EA should add ridiculous animations to the game just so the user can have control...Might as well give the use the ability to fly through the air from foul line to foul line as well
 
# 268 23 @ 08/31/10 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by HoosierDaddy
Same could be said with dribbling. We had the debate while we were at community day about what should happen when big men dribble the ball. Yes, they obviously CAN dribble between their legs, but how often do you see it? It's either slow down the animation and decrease the success of such a move and eventually depending on pressure lose the ball or you allow them to pull off the same types of moves that PGs can do at will. Just because they CAN do it, doesn't mean it's realistic. My whole point is, how often do you see it while you're watching NBA basketball, very rarely. So the game should reflect as much.
I agree with this point and the last one

We have similar minds on all of this and that the points I've been making

The philosophies of the control pundits though dont want to hear what you're saying... Its all control or not

As I said, the extreme cases are never good on either side, and a balance should be struck from the get go
 
# 269 erickonasis @ 08/31/10 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by HoosierDaddy
Same could be said with dribbling. We had the debate while we were at community day about what should happen when big men dribble the ball. Yes, they obviously CAN dribble between their legs, but how often do you see it? It's either slow down the animation and decrease the success of such a move and eventually depending on pressure lose the ball or you allow them to pull off the same types of moves that PGs can do at will. Just because they CAN do it, doesn't mean it's realistic. My whole point is, how often do you see it while you're watching NBA basketball, very rarely. So the game should reflect as much.

Shot attempts are a different story, you CHOOSE to take that shot. That's something that is more in your control, per say. You never see those unless it's a last second shot attempt, but when you see players who never dribble or dunk like that, it seriously adds to the unauthentic nature of a game.
Which goes to show you some people must not watch NBA basketball AT ALL. Leave ESPN alone and do some research by actually watching a game.
 
# 270 HoosierDaddy @ 08/31/10 05:29 PM
OK. Say Fisher attempts a dunk, realistically what would happen? Would he miss the dunk? Would he re-adjust his shot "attempt" and change into a layup because he realizes he can't get that high, unless on a fast break with no one around? Both things would probably happen, but you'd see the latter, 95% of the time in an NBA game. Just because they attempt a dunk attempt doesn't mean it NEEDS to be a dunk. Go hard to the rim and finish strong with a layup.
 
# 271 da ThRONe @ 08/31/10 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 23
First of all Fisher doesnt have the agility in real life to attempt a dunk, let alone Boozers surgically repaired knee shouldnt have an attribute to take into effect him jumping from that far just for the sake of control


Thats a straight up arcade video game, not a sim
You mean to tell me Fisher couldnt even attempt a dunk? And if you take control of Boozer and make him jump from the FT line he shouldnt get anywhere near the rim. It should be like what happens when you take control of a player and make him jump. He should either have to pass or get an up and down violation.
 
# 272 HoosierDaddy @ 08/31/10 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by erickonasis
Which goes to show you some people must not watch NBA basketball AT ALL. Leave ESPN alone and do some research by actually watching a game.
Not sure what you're getting at here. I want as sim experience as we can get in a game. I don't want noobs cheesing and using Gasol as a PG dribbling between his legs and crossing people over. Do you see that in NBA basketball games you watch? I think not..
 
# 273 23 @ 08/31/10 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HoosierDaddy
OK. Say Fisher attempts a dunk, realistically what would happen? Would he miss the dunk? Would he re-adjust his shot "attempt" and change into a layup because he realizes he can't get that high, unless on a fast break with no one around? Both things would probably happen, but you'd see the latter, 95% of the time in an NBA game. Just because they attempt a dunk attempt doesn't mean it NEEDS to be a dunk. Go hard to the rim and finish strong with a layup.
...and the counter argument has been made

If I want him to dunk he should attempt the dunk not a layup. I will layup if I want to layup

The above sounds like something that belongs in NBA Street
 
# 274 coolcras7 @ 08/31/10 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by da ThRONe
Control. Thats all. Once again I'm not broken up about it one way or the other. I want to attempt any and everything with every player. I just want the outcome of that act to be based on the players size, weight and, ratings.
Fine if that is the game you want to play, but it not my choice and if Elite gives they user that choice it is not the game for me especially if you are able to score using those unrealistic abilities.
 
# 275 erickonasis @ 08/31/10 05:32 PM
I'm done...really it gets to a point where some people just cant comprehend. I must be getting old
 
# 276 HoosierDaddy @ 08/31/10 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 23
...and the counter argument has been made

If I want him to dunk he should attempt the dunk not a layup. I will layup if I want to layup

The above sounds like something that belongs in NBA Street
Yeah, I agree with that. User has the ability to control what shot attempt you will make. Problem is, Fisher isn't dunking like that, so it's unrealistic and makes the game look bad depending on the user.
 
# 277 23 @ 08/31/10 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by da ThRONe
You mean to tell me Fisher couldnt even attempt a dunk? And if you take control of Boozer and make him jump from the FT line he shouldnt get anywhere near the rim. It should be like what happens when you take control of a player and make him jump. He should either have to pass or get an up and down violation.
Fisher couldnt even guard Troy Hudson let alone dunk a basketball

Both guys you just named had multiple knee surgeries anyway. The more you explain it the more unrealistic it all sounds
 
# 278 erickonasis @ 08/31/10 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by HoosierDaddy
Not sure what you're getting at here. I want as sim experience as we can get in a game. I don't want noobs cheesing and using Gasol as a PG dribbling between his legs and crossing people over. Do you see that in NBA basketball games you watch? I think not..
which is exactly what im saying....why even add those abilities to certain players to begin with ?

I think your getting me confused with the other posters here
 
# 279 da ThRONe @ 08/31/10 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by HoosierDaddy
OK. Say Fisher attempts a dunk, realistically what would happen? Would he miss the dunk? Would he re-adjust his shot "attempt" and change into a layup because he realizes he can't get that high, unless on a fast break with no one around? Both things would probably happen, but you'd see the latter, 95% of the time in an NBA game. Just because they attempt a dunk attempt doesn't mean it NEEDS to be a dunk. Go hard to the rim and finish strong with a layup.
It's all user based anyways. You can change your shot if you want to already right? And if you dont he should miss the dunk. The same way you should miss if a guy who can dunk attempts a dunk that not in his arsenal or is not in a position to complete it.
 
# 280 RayDog253 @ 08/31/10 05:36 PM
I think the problem is not a having a turbo button. Because in any other basketball game if you wanted to dunk you usually had to be holding the turbo button.

But he still shouldn't have dunked from the dotted line (it wasn't the freethow line people).

So if it's just up on the sticks like a regular jump shot, then I can see where weird things might happen. Say your running a fastbreak, you got a defender in front of you and you just want to pull up at the free throw line. but because of the controls and lack of dunk modifier you end attempting a dunk from the free throw line instead.
 


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