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NBA Elite 11 News Post

OS'ers jtdribbles25, 23 and Jano have posted their impressions of NBA Elite 11, from their hands-on time with the game at the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event.

23 has posted a ton of video from the game on his Youtube channel. I just wanted to gather all of the videos together on one page, to make it easier to find and view.

We appreciate all the work 23, as well as the impressions, all 3 of you have given us.










To view the rest of them (17 in total), head over to 23's Youtube Channel, right here.

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# 221 23 @ 08/31/10 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bigball12
What! Is that not the point of playing Xbox?
Online gaming against random sports gamers is not what I care for

First and foremost it is the core game which is most important

If I want to play someone, I play someone I know or some of the guys from this site or whatever.

Continuing to go online playing kids and guys you know will stick you with a needle is your own fault if you decide to continue to do so

...and for the record I have all 3 systems, but im not sure why its important to bring up what the system is for.
 
# 222 da ThRONe @ 08/31/10 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 23
Online gaming against random sports gamers is not what I care for

First and foremost it is the core game which is most important

If I want to play someone, I play someone I know or some of the guys from this site or whatever.

Continuing to go online playing kids and guys you know will stick you with a needle is your own fault if you decide to continue to do so

...and for the record I have all 3 systems, but im not sure why its important to bring up what the system is for.
I agree I have had a 360 since they first dropped I have XBOX Live and I'm almost never playing online.
 
# 223 VDusen04 @ 08/31/10 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bigball12
What! Is that not the point of playing Xbox?
I think there's a couple of different types of gamers here. A lot of people love the online experience. A lot of people do not. Maybe I've just had a limited look, but in my couple of free month trials of XBoxLive Gold, I'm just not a big fan of online basketball. I much prefer the computer or a friend. As it stands, none of my friends are really online gamers.
 
# 224 23 @ 08/31/10 02:54 PM
Yes it was in there last year
 
# 225 Flightwhite24 @ 08/31/10 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dawgthem
Guys i honestly think we can ring this game up as a fail i mean really.. I know the live fans want to try so hard to say NO no NO!..its not a final build or how early is this,...but man after watching those vids they don't even look like they could contest with Nba 2k10 i mean really..like there just not good vids of this game..trust me. why would they ship a build of a game that is in its early stages to live community event a month from its release what you see in those visd is what your probably going to get i mean Take note they haven't released any gameplay vids and its quite obvious
This what concerns me as well as the "Crappy" video's. I could be wrong but I have not seen any gameplay vid's by EA. The last time EA held video's back until the last minute the game was a complete mess. Could this be the case again??? I believe it was Live 07. Correct me if I'm wrong
 
# 226 Jano @ 08/31/10 03:11 PM
I feel the option to do those dunks should be taken away for sure because its just not realistic.

Guys can't take two steps and then just fly to the basket like they need more momentum hopefully rEAnimator's comment on dunk range was the issue. If they tone that down and then lower the vert of some players unrealistic things like that will hopefully not be an issue.

But who knows..when it comes to EA and ratings they haven't really shown a desire to update them these last few years...
 
# 227 da ThRONe @ 08/31/10 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by oOausarOo
I'm not sure the problem is having an option to attempt a dunk from the freethrow line with Boozer. With the path EA is going users should have the option, but the result 100 times out of 100 should be Boozer falling short of the rim and on his face.

If you try it with LeBron on a fast break, maybe you should make it 5 times out of a 100.
This has been my stance. Dont limited what we can do limited the sucess rate. Also have a completely different set of animations for guys who should be attempting said moves from the guys who shouldnt.
 
# 228 coolcras7 @ 08/31/10 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by oOausarOo
I'm not sure the problem is having an option to attempt a dunk from the freethrow line with Boozer. With the path EA is going users should have the option, but the result 100 times out of 100 should be Boozer falling short of the rim and on his face.

If you try it with LeBron on a fast break, maybe you should make it 5 times out of a 100.
if there is not a specific dunk button in the game or a layup button or a shot button then people don't have the freedom to choose to attempt a specific action so there has to be some kind of logic in the game that puts some kind of limitation on what each player is capable of doing, what happened there should have resulted in a jump shot not a dunk the logic is clearly broken there is no way to look at this as a positive.
 
# 229 Jano @ 08/31/10 03:30 PM
There is a specific way to do dunks its up on the stick same way you shoot a jumpshot.

But you are right considering the conditions Boozer was is in it should have been a jumper or at least that leaning runner shot.
 
# 230 Tha_Kid @ 08/31/10 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by coolcras7
if there is not a specific dunk button in the game or a layup button or a shot button then people don't have the freedom to choose to attempt a specific action so there has to be some kind of logic in the game that puts some kind of limitation on what each player is capable of doing, what happened there should have resulted in a jump shot not a dunk the logic is clearly broken this there is no way to look at this as a positive.
I'm not in the group that supports giving everyone the ability and limiting the success rate. That said, the game does have a specific and separate dunk, layup, and shot control. You press towards the basket and Up on the skill stick and you will attempt a dunk. You roll up from left or right and you attempt a layup. You leave the LS neutral and it is a shot.

For those that are saying the problem isn't that Boozer attempted the dunk but that he made it, that is inconsistent with players that can't/don't dunk. Take Fisher, UP on the stick for fisher doesn't have him attempt a dunk, but a layup, why? Because he doesn't dunk.

So already there are context sensitive (as far as who is doing it) animation limits.

By the logic i'm reading from you guys, Fisher should attempt a dunk and get rim-checked instead. I can't agree with that. It makes more sense and is more sim to give guys packages that fit their real life counterpart than to let anyone do anything for the sake of preaching total control.

For the Boozer dunk, he should have jumped up in layup animation like what Fisher had because the game should know that he can not dunk from there. From there, physics should have led to a collision of some sort. The dunk range should be reduced but it makes you question the people playing this game everyday that we have to point that out. It's not like it's Ron Artest from the dotted circle, it's guys from the free throw line.
 
# 231 coolcras7 @ 08/31/10 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jano
There is a specific way to do dunks its up on the stick same way you shoot a jumpshot.

But you are right considering the conditions Boozer was is in it should have been a jumper or at least that leaning runner shot.
I meant separate buttons once upon a time Live had designated buttons for dunks and lay ups, I was pointing out the flaw in oOausarOo comment in saying he does not see a reason boozer should not attempt a free throw line dunk if the user decided to, because the user does not have an option to choose dunks, layup and shots because they are all controlled by pressing up on the controller the distance from the basket plays an important role in determining what happens as well as momentum.
 
# 232 Jano @ 08/31/10 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by coolcras7
I meant separate buttons once upon a time Live had designated buttons for dunks and lay ups, I was pointing out the flaw in oOausarOo comment in saying he does not see a reason boozer should not attempt a free throw line dunk if the user decided to because the user does not have an option to choose dunks layup and shots because they are all controlled by pressing up on the controller the distance from the basket plays an important role in determining what happens.
You can control layups, dunks, and shots. As Tha_Kid said layups are up and roll to the right or left on right stick while pushing Lstick forward

dunks up on stick while moving Lstick forward.

And Jumpers are just up on right stick while left stick is neutral.

But you are right distance does determine what will happen especially on dunks. So that's why I said the dunk range and vertical needs to be toned down heavily so that things are more realistic in that specific situation.
 
# 233 da ThRONe @ 08/31/10 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tha_Kid
I'm not in the group that supports giving everyone the ability and limiting the success rate. That said, the game does have a specific and separate dunk, layup, and shot control. You press towards the basket and Up on the skill stick and you will attempt a dunk. You roll up from left or right and you attempt a layup. You leave the LS neutral and it is a shot.

For those that are saying the problem isn't that Boozer attempted the dunk but that he made it, that is inconsistent with players that can't/don't dunk. Take Fisher, UP on the stick for fisher doesn't have him attempt a dunk, but a layup, why? Because he doesn't dunk.

So already there are context sensitive (as far as who is doing it) animation limits.

By the logic i'm reading from you guys, Fisher should attempt a dunk and get rim-checked instead. I can't agree with that. It makes more sense and is more sim to give guys packages that fit their real life counterpart than to let anyone do anything for the sake of preaching total control.

For the Boozer dunk, he should have jumped up in layup animation like what Fisher had because the game should know that he can not dunk from there. From there, physics should have led to a collision of some sort. The dunk range should be reduced but it makes you question the people playing this game everyday that we have to point that out. It's not like it's Ron Artest from the dotted circle, it's guys from the free throw line.
If there is a different set of commands for dunking and lay-ups and I attempt a dunk with a Fisher or Nash I should fail not just automatically attempt a lay-up because thats the only thing they can do. To me that is control.
 
# 234 23 @ 08/31/10 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by da ThRONe
If there is a different set of commands for dunking and lay-ups and I attempt a dunk with a Fisher or Nash I should fail not just automatically attempt a lay-up because thats the only thing they can do. To me that is control.
Sounds more like NBA Jam than NBA Basketball man
 
# 235 mlp111 @ 08/31/10 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by real baller
i cant wait till i get my hands on dis game i see some potential with all dis freedom...see da thing is alot of these lames dont know basketbal..they just tap da steal button a million times, shoot glitch threes,abuse da offensive foul button, sit in zone d in wait for glitch steals ....see these arcade ballers they dont know how to walk the ball up pass down to da post kick da ball back out ...swing da ball around make dat extra pass and get a high percentage shot. see a baller like me probably get dis game and make it look beautiful cause i know how to play basketball
i was think that too, but then i realized that what i see in the videos, will be so close to what i would probably be on line because a majority of people dont care about Sim style gaming online, they just want to get a W (win) for their record, so it will be very similar to the videos i have seen, and im not feeling that at all, so i personally wont be getting the game, i will however try out the demo, if demo is great, i could possibly change my mind, but i highly doubt it, i believe online will look and play exactly like those clips, probably a bit cleaner, but same results
 
# 236 da ThRONe @ 08/31/10 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 23
Sounds more like NBA Jam than NBA Basketball man
How so? If EA is selling control is it wrong to expect anything less? How is this not real basketball? If Nash attempted a dunk he would most likely fail just like he should if he attempted a dunk in Elite. The moral is dont attempted a dunk with a guy who can't complete that kind of dunk.

Just like with the quick vid of Bynum going behind the back and losing the ball same principle.
 
# 237 23 @ 08/31/10 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by da ThRONe
How so? If EA is selling control is it wrong to expect anything less? How is this not real basketball? If Nash attempted a dunk he would most likely fail just like he should if he attempted a dunk in Elite. The moral is dont attempted a dunk with a guy who can't complete that kind of dunk.

Just like with the quick vid of Bynum going behind the back and losing the ball same principle.
Oh its real basketball alright, but just not NBA basketball.

Might as well call it EA Sports Basketball 11 if this kind of craziness is involved.
 
# 238 Tha_Kid @ 08/31/10 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by da ThRONe
If there is a different set of commands for dunking and lay-ups and I attempt a dunk with a Fisher or Nash I should fail not just automatically attempt a lay-up because thats the only thing they can do. To me that is control.
Well the thing is that is not how it works in Elite, so already the game isn't living up to your idea of total control. Guys like Fisher and Nash will do layups period. Likewise, very few guys should be able to trigger a dunk from anywhere near the FT line and only with no one near them. This should be fixed.
 
# 239 Rocboyz101 @ 08/31/10 04:29 PM
When do you ever see nash or fisher even attempt to dunk? Theres a fine line between control and realism.
 
# 240 erickonasis @ 08/31/10 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocboyz101
When do you ever see nash or fisher even attempt to dunk? Theres a fine line between control and realism.
Im starting to think some of the people here dont watch any NBA games just the highlights
 


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