NBA Elite 11 News Post

NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

12:12 PM - August 29, 2010 by Steve_OS

OS'ers jtdribbles25, 23 and Jano have posted their impressions of NBA Elite 11, from their hands-on time with the game at the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event.

23 has posted a ton of video from the game on his Youtube channel. I just wanted to gather all of the videos together on one page, to make it easier to find and view.

We appreciate all the work 23, as well as the impressions, all 3 of you have given us.

To view the rest of them (17 in total), head over to 23's Youtube Channel, right here.

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# 181 Goffs @ 08/30/10 06:17 PM

I'm still reeling from the fact that RT is now the pass button....

# 182 Jamesmaster @ 08/30/10 06:19 PM

I will try the demo and make up my mind then but, seriously, nobody is going to convince me that the overload of bad animations that we've seen in the videos is going to magically disappear if you know how to play the game. I do believe that the chaos will be (alot) better if you know the controls and flow of the game, but still, there are ugly things in there that have been in for years and they seem more noticeable than ever.

Also the '3 year plan' shouldn't be an excuse for not releasing a good game. I'd rather have them not release a game for 2 years and come with a great one afterwards.

# 183 rhein77 @ 08/30/10 06:23 PM

I watched the vids and it is looking bleak. I play a basketball game for aesthetics as well as gameplay, and their are glaring issues I just cant get past. I too bought live every year from lakers vs celtics to the year that D-Wade was on the cover. I think the glory days were when they released Live 95. Hell... I remember being addicted to Coach K basketball for the sega genesis where you can break the backboard lol. It hurts me to my heart because I was an ea fanboy. This is disappointing. I will play the demo but it looks like 2k has gotten my money this year. It clearly looks like the FAR superior product.

# 184 Tha_Kid @ 08/30/10 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jtdribbles25


	wassup czar... I was talking about this yesterday. If this was my only option, I would definitely buy this. I would feel that void of no competition would be missing. But there would definitely be more incentive to play this due to the lack of competition. Part of my issue is the fact that because of the competition theres lower tolerance for the problems/issues.

This is interesting. I thought Da Czar was hinting that the tolerance for problems/issues was a bit higher because we have an alternative we can turn to instead. Personally, I think the sim gamer is going to have a lower tolerance in general for these games regardless of competition or exclusivity. Though there can be an air of futility as far as voicing concerns about a game with no competitor.

# 185 NoTiCe_O @ 08/30/10 06:35 PM

I wont pass any serious judgement until i play the game for myself, and play with my style of play.

I think alot of people in this video were to used to basketball games doing the realistic stuff for them. Like switching hands when dribbling, laying it up when close to the hoop, stopping the momentum so you can pull up for a jumper not a leaner. Because i saw alot of simple yet easy errors goin on, like players dribbling to the right but the ball still in their left hand because they expect it to switch for example. Stuff like that makes the game look akward but people don't realize its their fault. Even when protecting the ball people didn't realize they had to do tht, because they would just try to run towards the hoop with a player in front of them; something no one would do in real life.

As for Dwade and Boozer dunking from the FT line, that is RIDICULOUS i dont kno what the devs. were thinking putting something like that in. Not to mention they had hardly enough momentum to even lay it up from that distance, and the fact tht the limbs don't have realistic physics just looks weird.

All in all ii think this game has very realistic aspects to it, but people aren't ready for that style a play right now, and it does take practice. You know when you used to play Live then switch over to another bball game but you still pressing the same buttons from live because of muscle memory. Its gonna be 100x worse with Elite their i a learning curve and you have to get used to the game controls before it can even look right. You also have to think with realistic aspects in mind.

We need some videos of two people that are actually skilled at the game to even see what a real game would look like.

# 186 Live_4real @ 08/30/10 07:11 PM

First of all, thanks for the vids, glad to see Elite in action....FINALLY

Second, people don�t have to give constructive criticism, there is no problem in stating facts, good or bad, I understand that people have preferences, just try and keep your opinion balanced and everything will be fine

When I see these videos, I try to see more then what I am seeing, and knowing that almost every single player action, occurs after the user input, makes it easier to analyze.

When I asked rEAnimator about sprinting, I expressed my concern about changing gears, I don�t like to see players that appear to be running always the same pace or very close to it

I understand that this is almost a EA feature, they have taken out the turbo button in other sports games, I don�t like it, it is easier for me to suddenly change the pace after a dribble move or a fastbreak if there is a turbo button, at least it is easier for the me to notice it...

It could have been because of user input, but there was only 1 gear in those videos, but too early to make conclusions

I was disappointed with the lack of physicality, but then again it was probably because of user input, so I will wait for me to jump all over guys flying for the layup to see more collisions...

I don�t understand why so many people talk about that Boozer dunk, I don�t remember the last time Live had a game, were players didn�t fly on dunk or layup attempts

You see so many big men flying in live games, even tho they are 7 ft, it is crazy, I hope that next year ATLEAST 2 types of verticals are added, standing still and fastbreak verticals.

And even in that action I think it should be user input, meaning if I wanted to dunk with Boozer so far off, I should be blocked by the rim because he doesn�t have enough air under him to jump so far from the rim.

Another hate that I have read, "people are attacking the basket going left with the ball in the right hand when he should use the other one", that is user input, it has nothing to do with "EA messing it up as always".....

Another idea was that there should be limitations on the user control, first of all let me say that I understand the idea, but in my opinion this should not exist, at least offline, and let me break it down

I am a sim baller, but let�s say I woke up today, and I want to play a crazy game, without putting NBA jam in, let me try to shoot fadeaways with Dhoward, what is the problem with that???

I understand and I agree, it should look ugly, and it should be almost impossible to score in the low difficult level, but there is nothing wrong with it.

Do y�all remember the Bynum video, when he loses the ball wile dribbling??? Why did that look great??? Because we saw a player that never uses that in real life, trying to do it, and it went wrong, it looked ugly and slow, that was perfect

There should be no limitations, but that could be a problem online, you could see people playing like that, when you want to play a competitive b-ball game, or another problem is the casual gamer, but that is a problem that EA has to figure it out, not me, because if the game is fun, I can put the time behind the game (fortunately).

And hey, I am talking user control, of course the CPU AI should not do it, they have to play sim ball at all costs, I should have total control.

Lastly some people say that for example, "before my player jumps, he should gather", because this would make the jumping animation more realistic, and let me say why I THINK they will not do it. For your player to gather he would take, let�s say 0,5 a second, and what EA is doing is making a game with total control, and 100% responsive, meaning, the second I press the button, my player does something...

For people to understand I will give 2k as an example (mods this is not an off-topic, this is just for people to understand my point) why do some people love the visuals of every single play, and why do some hate the responsiveness???

It is simple, because they have perfect blending between animations, making it look great, but sometimes you are at one spot on the court, you give your player an order to do something, but when the animation or the transition between them is finished, you user input action is not the most accurate because that action was only accurate for 0,5 seconds

My point is that there needs to be a balance, right now they decided responsiveness, maybe next year you will see more blending, but in my opinion they will never LOOK as good as they could, if they decided that the visual aspect of the game was more important, and FOR ME that is the right decision

I can�t understand how people say that this game looks like live 10, and some people even say it looks worst, but hey, thats the beauty of having different opinions, but I am the first to say that I was hoping for more, but knowing that what they had to do this year would take time, so these videos were not totally unexpected for me

Let�s hope that next year they revamp the animation side of the game, now that the controls are in it, and complexing the RTP, for more realistic 1 on 1 physical battles

Sorry for the long post, thanks again for the videos, and the feedback that those "bastards"

that played the game gave us.....

PeAcE

# 187 turftickler @ 08/30/10 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesmaster


	I will try the demo and make up my mind then but, seriously, nobody is going to convince me that the overload of bad animations that we've seen in the videos is going to magically disappear if you know how to play the game. I do believe that the chaos will be (alot) better if you know the controls and flow of the game, but still, there are ugly things in there that have been in for years and they seem more noticeable than ever. Also the '3 year plan' shouldn't be an excuse for not releasing a good game. I'd rather have them not release a game for 2 years and come with a great one afterwards.

Real talk here, fam. I just got a chance to watch all 17 of these vids and I am to disrepectful here so please do not flame me, but I have seen less ice skating in hockey games and better physical contact in synchronized swimming.

I really want NBA Elite 11 to be a great game, but I have to agree that they should have taken a break for 2 years instead of pumping out 2 more bad pre-releases prior to the one they want to design. Better yet, they should take this year off and keep working on the game for next year "NBA 2k12" and then they will have gained the respect of basketball game fans.

Sony might come back with an NBA game again soon for PS3 and XBox 360 that will blow away both the 2k series and the Elite series. I say watch out for Sony.

# 188 Rob. D @ 08/30/10 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Goffs


	I'm still reeling from the fact that RT is now the pass button....

same here man

# 189 walliworld @ 08/30/10 08:14 PM

Mike Wang said he left because he didn't like the direction the game was going. And now we know what he meant. This game is HORRIBLE! WTF

# 190 RayDog253 @ 08/30/10 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Court_vision


	My first impressions of these vids were that the game looks bad. 24 hours later and I've watched them again.......and it looks worse. I only just noticed the Boozer is the new Doctor J stuff....that's some seriously messed up player "realism" right there. As Dre has said for years now...we just shouldn't be seeing Andrew Bynumm crossovers and Emeka Okafor draining 20 foot Js.....this series just has no idea about real player tendencies. It's just completely generic. LIVE 10 was the first time the series has looked to at least be 'getting' on track. These vids suggest it's right off the rails again. I am tired of paying $60 for this thing based on "next year we'll get it right". I won't be getting it this season unless the demo is exceptional...and that seems very unlikely based on these vids.

We have yet to see any tendencies in action, everything released so far has been user controlled including the quick clips. So let's take a step back, relax and wait until we see the Cpu in action before we bash the game.

I understand there isn't much faith right now, but we can't say for sure until we see it. Wait for some User v Cpu or the demo. That's what I'm trying to do anyway.

# 191 pdawg17 @ 08/30/10 08:23 PM

You guys are freaking out way too much...and the people here hating are a joke...you know what is the only way to know if the game is for you or not? Wait for the demo and then play it a few times...until then I think it's funny to look at some low resolution shaky videos and say "this game sucks"...yes you can tell it will not be a perfect game but I personally cannot look at videos online and know whether I will like a game or not...

# 192 DocHolliday @ 08/30/10 08:24 PM

Man, Im not a ***** but those videos really do just look BAD. The way the guys are kinda hunched over and slip and slide around on the perimeter is just ugly. The jumpshots look weird, the balls travels to fast, The passing looks bad, even the physics stuff looks sloppy.

I think EA picked the wrong year to gamble on a new system, I dont see why anyone would get this over the other game at this point.

# 193 Da_Czar @ 08/30/10 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dat swag


	I kinda feel bad for the Elite crew because there will be some heads rolling once the numbers come in this year for this game. I wouldn't be suprised to see EA get out of simulation basketball all together and just focus on the NBA JAM-like titles

Honestly, I have publicly voiced my concern about My main man Hockey Dude holding the reigns

... But I would just like to see them finish a 3 year plan to see what happens. Seriously. The constant reboots are getting tiresome. Plus there are some really really talented and dedicated individuals over there. The suits needs to give them leeway to try and complete some sort of vision.

If they really base this concept off of user feedback and not just a desire to remove all animations just to say you can have absolute control then they won't be painted into a corner and can concern themselves with making the best most realistic playing game. As opposed fulfilling a marketing manifesto.

In life I have rarely found the answer to complex issues in extremes. Its usually somewhere near the middle where synergy is the strongest. You mix some of these controls with a dash of reality where it makes sense ( Jumping to challenge shots for example with not gather) and now your cooking.

IMHO of course. also great points the last few posts gentlemen ( shadows, live 4 real, mr court vision etc ). This is the OS get's down !

# 194 stepsix @ 08/30/10 08:36 PM

Hey guys sorry for the lack of communication...we're finalling the game at the moment and putting in some pretty crazy hours. Novell is working on some high quality user cpu 5v5 video to provide some perspective on a) some of this year's AI changes and b) how the game looks with someone who knows the controls at the helm. The footage has to go through the appropriate channels so I can't give you a date for their release, but I'm watching him record now.

I confirmed that the build is several weeks old - a lot of tuning to the overall visual look of gameplay went in in the last two weeks of the project. That's not to say all issues people are seeing are going to be addressed by any means, but this is definitely a year where you need to get the game in your hands.

# 195 Earl1963 @ 08/30/10 08:46 PM

That vid really doesn't look all that realistic or great, but I'm still leaning toward buying it instead of the other boring looking hoop game, cuz i need something new. Aslo I'm a control freak and I just have to be in complete control....it is a video game right?

# 196 P21J @ 08/30/10 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by havok023


	cant you just release the video you guys are getting crushed by 2k right now at least tell us when the demo will be out whats so hard about putting out a gameplay video are you gonna edit the bad stuff out or something

Patience is a virtue my man. Just let them capture the gameplay and it'll get here when it gets here. I'm anxious to see the video. Hopefully it's lengthy enough (3 min or more) to analyze thoroughly

# 197 fatleg3 @ 08/30/10 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Da_Czar


	fatleg what's up Fam. I was a big proponent of live last year pre the patch of doom, But one thing that I kept repeating is that those who have an issue with the game should not be silenced. They should have an equal opportunity to say what they feel is wrong with the game. It can be a tough thing but most in here are only voicing their frustration because they really wanted to be able to get into the game this year. I don't know how long you have been gaming ( no insult here I really don't know) but some of us have been waiting a very very very long time for live to get their stuff together. Along those lines this is a LEAST their 3rd attempt at a 3 year plan. No kidding. So for some of us we have heard this all before. EA has broken more sim gamers hearts on so many occassions they are really going to have to show and prove. Guys are tired of hearing the same old lines with consistently sub par game play. They have been saying this is a revolution etc etc etc. DId that look revolutionary to you ? No it didn't so people just feel duped again. That's all it is. Now I have been saying and continue to say that until we play it or at least see 2 people who are very good at the game play it you really won't know because of how much control they give the user. Having said all that the MOd's will take care of the trolls but lets not immediately dismiss negative thoughts about the game as being some sort of 2k conspiracy all the time. Most are here because they are or were excited about the possibilities of what they were talking about. I refuse to believe they spent all that money and time and what we saw in these videos was what they had in their heads when they said " this is great, this is revolutionary" Can't be.... LOL

Czar whazup. I have no problem with people voicing their opinion. But I just think some people get on here just to bash the game. I think i might have said this in another thread or post but some people are just rude towards it. You would not want somebody telling you that something you worked on for months and months that it is horrible, terrible, etc. To say things like the dev are not trying their best and other things like that is ridiculous. They work for a major company. That company has a brand to keep up so they are going to try and put the best game out each year. Weather or not what they put out is for you is a different story. There are ways to let your voice be heard without being rude.

Know with that says I know this game is by no means done. Yes it is a work in progress. I will be the first to admit that. I also said this before but i truly think that if they can make the best looking game out their while have the best gameplay also then they would. Do you think they want players dunking from the free throw line, or players sliding across the floor. NO. I am sure they do the best they could with the game engine that they use. I dont think some people understand fully what goes on with the process of making a video game. Its not as simple as making the game look exactly how you want it to and play exactly how you want it to. Their is so much a game engine lets you do.

Even though i wish I did i by no means work for ea but to look at a game before the demo comes out nd basically say it sucks, its stupid, etc is crazy.

# 198 Piccaso @ 08/30/10 09:03 PM

I thought the video made it all better because no one person can jus hop on the sticks and play a good game, the fact that u have to learn the controls and not just press a button makes it a little more realistic, really its all on u to make those highlghts and put together a combination of moves to make it realistic not relying on the computer to make em, u get the satisfaction out of creating something real, but i really feel good that u gotta practice to become an Elite player on the sticks it will be something to enjoy instead of waiting on and relying on the AI to kick in and give u what u want, its like u never have to depend on nobody, but u!!! for everything so i still think its gonna be good game and not everybody will be able to pick it up right away, how it looks nobody gonna pick it up LOL but i guess we gotta wait on the demo

# 199 Dachozen1 @ 08/30/10 09:05 PM

EA as a basketball franchise has regressed big time with Elite 11... Why go back to arcade style when they were slowly getting their fans back with the last 2 simulation games... Carlos Boozer from the free throw line? Just explosive garbage

# 200 fatleg3 @ 08/30/10 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by havok023


	but many of us are losing our patience seen those videos plus all the info 2k is giving out we know nothing about nba elite game modes while 2k gives info everyday i really want this game to be good since i really like live 10 but things are looking bad right now

Thats what might be the problem. 2k is videos and news is coming out every other day. People know so little about kind of a new game compared to 2k and how good 2k looks. I really dont know to much about marketing techniques but I guess 2k did the better job marketing their game and buliding up the hype for it.

There should be so much video on elite because it is kind of a new game. With people on the verge of giving it up ea should have plenty of video out saying hey look at this game and how good it is

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