Who the hell is Gus Johnson and what NFL network does he announce games for?
I've heard his voice in basketball, but not in Pro Football.
Does he do NFL games?
If not, why would EA hire him?
P.S.- about the demo ... I don't like how far back the camera goes on defense on pass plays. It's futher back than NCAA and almost impossible to defend the pass.
Who the hell is Gus Johnson and what NFL network does he announce games for?
I've heard his voice in basketball, but not in Pro Football.
Does he do NFL games?
If not, why would EA hire him?
P.S.- about the demo ... I don't like how far back the camera goes on defense on pass plays. It's futher back than NCAA and almost impossible to defend the pass.
Most people here just have some crazy unrealistic expectations is ridiculous...If 2k and every other company were making football games like before EA had the licensece how much do you guys think they can actually continue to improve on a yearly game, you can only improve so much eventually nfl 2k10 would seem more and more like nfl 2k11 and nfl 2k11 like nfl 2k12 until theres a new console or something release and that isnt even a gimmie. Im a 2k fanboy no lie I grew up played all the nfl 2ks on the dreamcast and nfl 2k5 on xbox...Im not here to say oh madden had this many years to get this right and that 2ks technology and engine is better im just saying its impossible to continue to want drastic improvements on something that comes out ever year(AND just because a game releases doesnt mean you have to buy it).. say if madden 06 was the only madden until madden 11 this year everybody would be going crazy possibly saying its the best football game ever, but if its every year like it is some people need to just relax and just enjoy the game because its a game or not buy it at all.
Most people here just have some crazy unrealistic expectations is ridiculous...
can you please be specific and quote who are you referring to? This makes you no better then the people you are bashing. Did you play the demo?
for me personally, i don't think asking for what we've already had from the madden franchise is a 'crazy unrealistic' expectation. I've been more than optimistic and supportive over the years. This has been my first year coming to grips with the fact that we are getting a, for lack of a better word, lazy, entitled, and uninspired effort in madden 2011. I will play the full version before i say anything else but i don't think it's fair to compare this game to NCAA yet. it's a demo.
The strategy pad thing is really hampering my 'expectations' for now.
ALL I wanted was for them to get rid of the "Robo QB" logic....THATS IT. sigh....Demo is ok otherwise....just really dissapointed about the pass rush..
Most people here just have some crazy unrealistic expectations is ridiculous...If 2k and every other company were making football games like before EA had the licensece how much do you guys think they can actually continue to improve on a yearly game, you can only improve so much eventually nfl 2k10 would seem more and more like nfl 2k11 and nfl 2k11 like nfl 2k12 until theres a new console or something release and that isnt even a gimmie. Im a 2k fanboy no lie I grew up played all the nfl 2ks on the dreamcast and nfl 2k5 on xbox...Im not here to say oh madden had this many years to get this right and that 2ks technology and engine is better im just saying its impossible to continue to want drastic improvements on something that comes out ever year(AND just because a game releases doesnt mean you have to buy it).. say if madden 06 was the only madden until madden 11 this year everybody would be going crazy possibly saying its the best football game ever, but if its every year like it is some people need to just relax and just enjoy the game because its a game or not buy it at all.
I want to start off by saying I totally understand your point. What with the NBA 2k series starting to blur together year after year. But I think your going about it wrong.
I think the issue many folks have with Madden/NCAA is that the improvements asked for take years to be implemented (sometimes not at all) and we are constantly given things we NEVER asked for. There's that, and things from past gen getting shafted from this gen that eventually get passed off as new (see Locomotion).
I actually don't mid what EA has done with the changes...what I do mind is I am seeing alot of grainy textures on backgrounds or the second the player isn't close up
i believe you can turn it off?? Correct me if im wrong.
You can turn off the display but you can't change the functionality back to what it used to be. I'm really disappointed in the demo and will probably be skipping madden for the first time in over 10 years.
Graphics are nice again but that's to be expected. Can't say anything about the audio, obviously they had to leave things out because it's a demo.
Gameplay felt similar to me as last years. So far I am preferring NCAA.
Locomotion seems smoother and less obvious than in NCAA which is good. Game feels more sluggish though. Not how fast players run etc, but responsiveness of controls feels slower too.
Don't like strategy pad. I kept pressing triangle to adjust the coverage but couldn't. Don't see why they changed it.
Gameplan feature doesn't seem very good to me. My issue with it is that at least by default it doesn't show the full play art on defense, only your own player. Because you aren't selecting the play, it should show you everyone's assignment. Don't know if it's in the options, but they should show the full play art by default like on NCAA. At least there you choose your own play so you have an idea of what everyone is doing, on Madden you don't choose your play so it's more important to see what the play call is.
Kicking is different obviously, but I don't know that it's better. It used to be easy on Madden to kick, once you get used to this system it will likely be almost as before.
Felt no real excitement playing the game, and will stick with NCAA this year. It's only a demo, but it's meant to be representative of the full game and I can't see spending $60 on the full version just to be disappointed.
This is sort of going to bother me a big but i have to make a decision. NCAA will be $50 at Target next week, if i wanted to buy the game it should be next week. However i was waiting on this Madden demo to either sway me to wait for Madden or just go out and get NCAA. I'll play more of the demo before i make this decision.
Instead of gameplan I think they should have kept the standard playcall screen, and then keep a "favorites" section where people could have set plays up according to down and yards.
That way you can still choose your play, but have situation specific plays readily available. This would cut down on the amount of time people previously took to choose plays, while still keeping some control. Those who didn't want to choose their own play at all still had ask madden. Gameplan gives you all or nothing, the computer chooses a play automatically, or you just do it the old way.
I've traditionally been an NCAA guy, but since the jump to PS3/360, I've found Madden to be the better game. So this year - despite the NCAA hype - I've waited out NCAA for Madden. So I can only compare the Madden demo to the NCAA demo, not the retail version. So here's my first impressions:
Playing on PS3, All-Pro, normal speed. It's similar to M10, but the graphics and animations are better, as you would expect. I actually prefer the graphics of M11 to NCAA11. Madden's player models, to me, look better. That seems to be a minority opinion though.
I'm also in the minority with the strategy pad. The old way was just fine, but I don't mind the SP. By halftime of the one game I played, I had adjusted. Not a big deal to me. I can actually see myself preferring it with a little more practice.
I started out using GameFlow, but eh. I don't like not seeing my play at all until I use the play art at the line. Think it would have been better if you at least got to see the play first. I turned it off and went back to the old way of calling plays. But I never really expected to use GF much anyway. I didn't mess around with game planning.
The new/old kicking meter is OK. Does feel kind of primitive to use the old meter, but I can live with it. I didn't have any button lag as others have had. I still think the best idea for kicking is to use the right stick without the arrow ... i.e. if you want to aim your kick left, you have to push the stick left as you push it up.
The only thing that really bugged me was the zoomed out passing camera. I'm hoping there's another camera option in the retail version ... or maybe they can zoom it in a bit with a patch.
Going just by the demos, I prefer Madden over NCAA. NCAA made a bigger leap from 10 to 11, but it also had longer to go. There's nothing revolutionary in M11, but it's a good upgrade over M10, IMHO.