06:17 AM - July 27, 2010 by buddy321813
The Madden NFL 11 demo is available now for 360 and later today for the PS3. Please post your impressions here.
Madden NFL 11 News Post
06:17 AM - July 27, 2010 by buddy321813The Madden NFL 11 demo is available now for 360 and later today for the PS3. Please post your impressions here.
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Also this isn't necessarily relevant, but I dislike the font's used for player names. In the Madden demo, the player names seemed to be a bit small.
I posted a long blog on my impressions of M11 Demo after a couple of games.
http://www.operationsports.com/Valda...mo-impression/
Feel free to read the whole thing for explanations of my Summary.
Summary
I dislike GameFlow, dislike the Strategy Pad, and dislike that new offensive coordinator audio. Locomotion has sliding when players stand still (as in my kick return), improper stride lengths, and sliding on nearly all toe down animations when starting/stopping. Gus Johnson is a great commentator who improves Madden's commentary, but commentary remains subpar due to lack of banter between Gus and Chris who feel as though they are in separate zip codes. Run blocking is improved, but not fixed completely. Madden 11 doesn't feel like a step forward at all, especially after playing NCAA 2011 which I feel is easily the better game this year. Instead it feels like what Madden 10 should have been gameplay wise, with a lot of unnecessary things added to the game that provide no value for this gamer.
http://www.operationsports.com/Valda...mo-impression/
Feel free to read the whole thing for explanations of my Summary.
Summary
I dislike GameFlow, dislike the Strategy Pad, and dislike that new offensive coordinator audio. Locomotion has sliding when players stand still (as in my kick return), improper stride lengths, and sliding on nearly all toe down animations when starting/stopping. Gus Johnson is a great commentator who improves Madden's commentary, but commentary remains subpar due to lack of banter between Gus and Chris who feel as though they are in separate zip codes. Run blocking is improved, but not fixed completely. Madden 11 doesn't feel like a step forward at all, especially after playing NCAA 2011 which I feel is easily the better game this year. Instead it feels like what Madden 10 should have been gameplay wise, with a lot of unnecessary things added to the game that provide no value for this gamer.
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I for one like gameflow, in real NFL games there's only about 5-10 plays for each situation, as opposed to hundreds. That's about the only thing I really enjoyed about this demo, as others have said, the running feels a bit sluggish. I found D-line moves to be pretty simple using the right stick and all, which I enjoy. But uhmm, this game is a case of hit or miss, some will like it, some won't, I don't really see a step-up from Madden 10 to be quite honest, though.
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Other than the animation stuff I'm tired of seeing the game was pretty cool. Hopefully they keep getting the gameplanning stuff deeper and deeper. I've had zero problems using the strategy pad once I got familiar with the location of items. So much drama on such a minor change yet someone said it was Madden that's Being dumbed down.
Overal about what I expected out of the demo. Nothing earth shattering but enjoyable.
Overal about what I expected out of the demo. Nothing earth shattering but enjoyable.
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GatorFan1963 @ 07/27/10 10:42 PM
Overall, this demo is flat out disappointing.
- The commentary seems like it's just pasted in there at weird times. Just a lot of odd silence here and there. The crowd also just goes quiet for some strange reason every so often.
- The D-pad thing is definitely annoying. Not sure about a game killer just yet. I still don't see the reason why they changed it.
- Gameflow just adds nothing to the game for me. Maybe it would if I was playing in a dynasty and I knew my playbook inside out. But, I don't think this is something that's exciting right off the bad.
- The whole coaches talking at the beginning of the play thing...just annoying and needs to be turned off. Another feature that adds nothing to the game.
- Locomotion??? Where is it? Seriously, I've been playing NCAA non-stop since it released and I know what Locomotion is. But the way it is implemented in Madden, still makes it look like a bunch of canned animations. The game still isn't smooth IMO.
Overall, this demo is just boring. I don't know how else to say it. There's no need to wait until the final product is released. We already know they have done nothing to franchise mode and I don't see one thing from this demo that even makes me want to play it again.
- The commentary seems like it's just pasted in there at weird times. Just a lot of odd silence here and there. The crowd also just goes quiet for some strange reason every so often.
- The D-pad thing is definitely annoying. Not sure about a game killer just yet. I still don't see the reason why they changed it.
- Gameflow just adds nothing to the game for me. Maybe it would if I was playing in a dynasty and I knew my playbook inside out. But, I don't think this is something that's exciting right off the bad.
- The whole coaches talking at the beginning of the play thing...just annoying and needs to be turned off. Another feature that adds nothing to the game.
- Locomotion??? Where is it? Seriously, I've been playing NCAA non-stop since it released and I know what Locomotion is. But the way it is implemented in Madden, still makes it look like a bunch of canned animations. The game still isn't smooth IMO.
Overall, this demo is just boring. I don't know how else to say it. There's no need to wait until the final product is released. We already know they have done nothing to franchise mode and I don't see one thing from this demo that even makes me want to play it again.
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(1) I hope it is only the demo but the crowd goes completely silent when the offense walks up to the line.
(2) HATE that the control scheme is moved to the direction buttons.
(3) Gameplay feels good and NFL Sunday feel is almost completely there. (Like NFL2K5)
(4) Gameflow is G. A. Y ..... GAY!!!! GAY!!!! GAY!!!! (No offense to anyone sexually)
(2) HATE that the control scheme is moved to the direction buttons.
(3) Gameplay feels good and NFL Sunday feel is almost completely there. (Like NFL2K5)
(4) Gameflow is G. A. Y ..... GAY!!!! GAY!!!! GAY!!!! (No offense to anyone sexually)
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countryboy @ 07/27/10 10:47 PM
The atmosphere and the commentary are horrendous in the PS3 demo. Too much pausing, and slow delivery in the commentary, and the atmosphere makes if feel as though I'm playing in front of 25 people and they are about midway up in the stands. It honestly makes the demo relatively boring. With that said, the gameplay on the field is exceptional in my opinion. The change that locomotion has brought into Madden has made this a "new" game in certain aspects.
All-Madden with no slider adjustments, obviously as they aren't in the demo, playing as the Jets, I held Manning to 8 for 18 passing. He had dropped passes, he was off-target, and once or twice he was hit while throwing. Beautiful. Granted it may be a one game fluke, but the fact that my first time with the game and I was able to do that...I'm happy.
Human passing was about what I expected and remember. Nothing has really changed in terms of the flight of the passes and such, but do feel as though the CB/WR interaction is better. I had Cotchery leave his man in the dust on a double move and hit him for a big gain.
The sideline catches are nice, but at times the animation triggers for no good reason. The Colts had Garcon wide open on the sidelines, and instead of turning to face the ball so that he could catch, stop and then run for an easy 15 additional yards, he goes into the sideline animation catch, keeps his feet in and then steps out of bounds. Hopefully, this is something that is looked into.
The running game is a thing of beauty. Oh how I've longed to be able to run without having to rely on "stick skills" and speed bursts in order to have an effective running game. I dominated the ground with Jets front line. Only issue was I fumbled twice.
The cpu running game was just as good as mine. I recall some players of the demo saying they didn't like the running game as it seemed that the runners always cut back into oncoming tacklers, or into a crowd. I didn't see that once, at least not a moment where I was left scratching my head at what the cpu was doing. At one point, Addai bounced a stuffed play to the outside for the TD. I had a love/hate relationship with that play. Loved that he bounced outside which was the right decision, hated he scored the TD.
The strategy pad takes time to get used to. Yes, its a little unorthodox at first, but I quickly adapted and I must say, while I may be in the extreme minority, I like it. I feels more natural than clicking L1/R1 or whatever to make changes. Its fluid.
Overall I'm pleased with the demo, honestly didn't expect not to be, and cannot wait to play the full version in 2 weeks. Hopefully, and judging by the E3 vids it will be so, but hopefully the commentary and atmosphere are better than the demo in the retail version. It couldn't get much worse.
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All-Madden with no slider adjustments, obviously as they aren't in the demo, playing as the Jets, I held Manning to 8 for 18 passing. He had dropped passes, he was off-target, and once or twice he was hit while throwing. Beautiful. Granted it may be a one game fluke, but the fact that my first time with the game and I was able to do that...I'm happy.
Human passing was about what I expected and remember. Nothing has really changed in terms of the flight of the passes and such, but do feel as though the CB/WR interaction is better. I had Cotchery leave his man in the dust on a double move and hit him for a big gain.
The sideline catches are nice, but at times the animation triggers for no good reason. The Colts had Garcon wide open on the sidelines, and instead of turning to face the ball so that he could catch, stop and then run for an easy 15 additional yards, he goes into the sideline animation catch, keeps his feet in and then steps out of bounds. Hopefully, this is something that is looked into.
The running game is a thing of beauty. Oh how I've longed to be able to run without having to rely on "stick skills" and speed bursts in order to have an effective running game. I dominated the ground with Jets front line. Only issue was I fumbled twice.
The cpu running game was just as good as mine. I recall some players of the demo saying they didn't like the running game as it seemed that the runners always cut back into oncoming tacklers, or into a crowd. I didn't see that once, at least not a moment where I was left scratching my head at what the cpu was doing. At one point, Addai bounced a stuffed play to the outside for the TD. I had a love/hate relationship with that play. Loved that he bounced outside which was the right decision, hated he scored the TD.
The strategy pad takes time to get used to. Yes, its a little unorthodox at first, but I quickly adapted and I must say, while I may be in the extreme minority, I like it. I feels more natural than clicking L1/R1 or whatever to make changes. Its fluid.
Overall I'm pleased with the demo, honestly didn't expect not to be, and cannot wait to play the full version in 2 weeks. Hopefully, and judging by the E3 vids it will be so, but hopefully the commentary and atmosphere are better than the demo in the retail version. It couldn't get much worse.
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streamline @ 07/27/10 10:50 PM
Demo is okay. It's an improvement from Madden 10, but for some reason it just isn't fun.
# 476
XFactah416 @ 07/27/10 10:55 PM
After playing a game:
1) Fight for the Fumble is terrible. It's a good thing you can turn it off in the retail.. but in all honesty, it is horrible and shouldn't even be in the game.
2) The new kicking meter might take some time to get used to. Either my controller stinks or I have to press A harder.. but I missed a reasonable FG and had a terrible punt because of it. Like, I end up completely shanking the FG attempt because of it.
Also, I used GameFlow and followed exactly what my coordinator was saying. No audibles, no hot routes. Although, I did mess around with strategy pad.. and it does look like a serious chore.
With that said, I really like the running game, and I like the catching. It feels more natural. I threw a nice lob to Dustin Keller and it just felt "right".
1) Fight for the Fumble is terrible. It's a good thing you can turn it off in the retail.. but in all honesty, it is horrible and shouldn't even be in the game.
2) The new kicking meter might take some time to get used to. Either my controller stinks or I have to press A harder.. but I missed a reasonable FG and had a terrible punt because of it. Like, I end up completely shanking the FG attempt because of it.
Also, I used GameFlow and followed exactly what my coordinator was saying. No audibles, no hot routes. Although, I did mess around with strategy pad.. and it does look like a serious chore.
With that said, I really like the running game, and I like the catching. It feels more natural. I threw a nice lob to Dustin Keller and it just felt "right".
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countryboy @ 07/27/10 10:56 PM
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On the flipside, if you are a Madden fan, such as myself, than this game is simply best of the bunch on the next gen consoles(which isn't saying a whole lot given the history) but as a fan you certainly appreciate this game a lot.
There's no doubt that Madden '11 isn't "as improved" from Madden '10 as its NCAA counterpart, but it is improved. Locomotion makes a world of difference in this game. For some thats enough, but for others it isn't.
I am liking the demo so far. Getting used to the strategy pad.
The only thing that has me worried now is that there is no option to adjust human sliders. GOD, I hope they did not take it out for some reason.
The only thing that has me worried now is that there is no option to adjust human sliders. GOD, I hope they did not take it out for some reason.
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countryboy @ 07/27/10 10:58 PM
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fanforlife21 @ 07/27/10 10:58 PM
Just finished my first game of the demo and I must some I am actually really digging the gameplay right now. I am hoping most of the audio presentation is fixed in the final build, which it probably will be. Guys complaining about the poor announcing need to wait for the full version, as it was obviously cut down for file size. Hearing a lot of bad stuff from reading this thread, but I must say this is sooo much better than madden 10, which was already a huge step in right direction. Only thing bugging me right now is the strategy pad but hoping it just a learning curve thing.
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