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Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Included

05:59 PM - April 13, 2009 by Ian_Cummings

Check out the new Madden NFL 10 blog. This one features the importance of an early community day.

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	"On April 10, we flew in 8 of the most hardcore Madden fans for a marathon testing day to get an extremely early look at our Alpha build and provide feedback based on where the game is thus far. You may ask, �What is new about this? Haven�t you had community events in the past?� Yes, we have done these before, but there are some key differences."

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# 501 SageInfinite @ 04/14/09 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KyGamerLT


	lol yea I saw that too but for the most part he played pretty sim.

agreed. Too bad his mouth and attitude weren't sim.

j/k

# 502 AndyBernard @ 04/14/09 06:06 PM

just reading bits and pieces of the thread, saw that qbs are forced to take 3 step drops, with penalties when you try to throw off your first step

what about inside the 10, snap, and the quick lob.. will that be penalized?

# 503 KyGamerLT @ 04/14/09 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SageInfinite


	agreed. Too bad his mouth and attitude weren't sim. j/k

lol it's just a madden ego, some guys who have been on the bus tend to think they achieved more then somebody who hasn't even when they leave with nothing.

# 504 SageInfinite @ 04/14/09 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KyGamerLT


	lol it's just a madden ego, some guys who have been on the bus tend to think they achieved more then somebody who hasn't even when they leave with nothing.

True.

# 505 g2thecore @ 04/14/09 06:29 PM

It's good to see this thread back to a certain level of normalcy. Jeez!

Just a quick question for the community day guys. That's if you can answer this type of question of course. Do you think the "new" animations in the game are up to the level of 2K5 as far as fluidity goes?

I totally understand if you can't answer that. If you can't answer this on general terms, can you at least talk about the route running animations, which has been discussed by Ian?

# 506 CreatineKasey @ 04/14/09 06:29 PM

Yeah right broski! Not everyone here is bitter/negative. I for one am reading nearly every comment you guys have and it's very fun and exciting.

Thanks for sharing your experience guys it is really enjoyable to read. Nearly everything I hear I like. I particularly like the pocket formation stuff from broski and the front 7 stuff from lbzrule.

# 507 LBzrule @ 04/14/09 06:32 PM

I do want to say one thing as it relates to Donny's tuning individual players thread. You guys really need to give Donny a big hand as far as player proportions are concerned. There may be a few players that need some tuning but from what I can remember everyone looked exactly right. This is not a comment about equipment but about player proportions. Even Jones-Drew had short stubby legs.

# 508 thudias @ 04/14/09 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by adembroski


	The whole thread? The 8 guys who went to Community Day are fanboy suckups who already had Madden 10 preordered anyways and they don't know jack about football. Pretty much sums it up.

I do not agree with this...not all 8 had preorders in at the time of the community day.

# 509 AndyBernard @ 04/14/09 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyBernard


	just reading bits and pieces of the thread, saw that qbs are forced to take 3 step drops, with penalties when you try to throw off your first step what about inside the 10, snap, and the quick lob.. will that be penalized?

anyone?

# 510 Ian_Cummings @ 04/14/09 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LBzrule


	I do want to say one thing as it relates to Donny's tuning individual players thread. You guys really need to give Donny a big hand as far as player proportions are concerned. There may be a few players that need some tuning but from what I can remember everyone looked exactly right. This is not a comment about equipment but about player proportions. Even Jones-Drew had short stubby legs.

Josh Looman actually worked on the player proportions...the guy is an animal!

# 511 LBzrule @ 04/14/09 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian_Cummings_EA


	Josh Looman actually worked on the player proportions...the guy is an animal!

Ooops LOL, Josh then. Sorry Josh.

# 512 adembroski @ 04/14/09 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian_Cummings_EA


	Josh Looman actually worked on the player proportions...the guy is an animal!

Yeah, he's amazing on that. I don't envy him, I don't have the patience for that. Donny's job, on the other hand, is #4 on my Dream Jobs list.

# 513 g2thecore @ 04/14/09 06:54 PM

Hey Adem, can you answer my earlier question about the animations? Or can you tell me whether or not you can answer it? Thanks.

# 514 StevieTheD @ 04/14/09 06:55 PM

Is it safe to enter this thread yet?

I just want to give a thanks to those guys who were (very) lucky enough to get down to Orlando and see the Alpha build. Having followed some of your posts since I joined a few months ago, I'm confident in the belief that you were out there representing our interests well.

I look forward to the blogs every week, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't more interested in hearing the Lucky 8's comments on the game once the NDA is no longer applicable. FWIW, I am pumped to hear about franchise improvements.

Here's an idea for a thread: a collection of the feedback and thoughts of the OSers who got the review the alpha build (once it's allowed, of course).

# 515 KyGamerLT @ 04/14/09 07:14 PM

List #2

1. Did the wr have a chance at the ball even when you strafe with the corner.
2. How many guys ran back and made a wedge on kick returns.
3. Did the db's guard slants,drags,ins,curls, and crossing routes in man.
4.Could you still rocket catch playmaker outs with the outside wr's and playmaker slants to the outside.
5. did DB's guard the right shoulder on post inside post routes.
6. Do DB's still jump high when you strafe.
7. Do wr's block down the field or make some big blocking hits like Hines Ward.
8. Can you make a move with a Dlinemen and get a sack.
9.There is a running play in GL I can't remember the name but it looks like a dive, do the linemen still pass block in that play.
10. There is a wr reverse play in san fran pb in the singleback bunch formation but the qb never hands the ball off it's a broken play everytime. Is this fixed?
11. In some formations if you change the direction of the run play then shift you're fb it creates a broken play because the fb bumps the qb off of his path. Is this fixed?
12. How does the defense react to a wr or TE being motioned into running lanes on a running play.
13. Say my outside wr is running a double move route (out and up) and I playmaker it to be shorter. Will the db in a blue zone keep dropping back? When this is done my wr always stops halfway and the db continues to drop back leaving me wide open.
14. Can you still make crazy motions, I figured this out in practice mode. You have a play with the wr running a auto motion change the route of the players that are on the line. Now I can make crazy motion plays like my rb could be lined up inside of my wr like they are the same person. Depending on the play i could get some really wild motions.

# 516 adembroski @ 04/14/09 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by g2thecore


	Hey Adem, can you answer my earlier question about the animations? Or can you tell me whether or not you can answer it? Thanks.

Are the animations as better than 2k5s? That's hard to answer, and I'm not in the majority on this.

I say no, on a pure animation-for-animation basis, no, Maddens are not as good. Smoother? Better transitions? yes, but putting this catch against that catch, assuming similar player models, 2k5 still looks more realistic to me. Now when I told everyone this the morning after community day, I got confused looks from everyone else, so clearly I'm pretty much alone here.

However, when you add layered blending, steering (see the sidelines blog), branching, etc.., Madden's system really shines.

# 517 jfsolo @ 04/14/09 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SageInfinite


	Exactly. I'm really interested to know how the magazines and gaming sites will view this Madden. Madden under the former regime has gotten constantly good scores. I can't wait to see how this turns out.

I've been thinking about this for a while. As much as we here are loathe to admit it, the game does need great reviews from the Ign's, GameInformer's, and the like.

When these sites get their first hands on experience with the game, the team members probably need to thoroughly guide them though the extensive changes that have been made, so that when they finally get around to reviewing the game, they will have a clear understanding of "what" and "why" concerning all the changes.

It would be unfortunate if some dilettante trashed the game because he didn't realize that he couldn't play the game like its was Madden 2004.

In short, teach these sites how to play the game, so that they won't be incompetent, and review the game from a state of ignorance.

# 518 g2thecore @ 04/14/09 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by adembroski


	Are the animations as better than 2k5s? That's hard to answer, and I'm not in the majority on this. I say no, on a pure animation-for-animation basis, no, Maddens are not as good. Smoother? Better transitions? yes, but putting this catch against that catch, assuming similar player models, 2k5 still looks more realistic to me. Now when I told everyone this the morning after community day, I got confused looks from everyone else, so clearly I'm pretty much alone here. However, when you add layered blending, steering (see the sidelines blog), branching, etc.., Madden's system really shines.

Sounds good. Thanks for the response. I sure hope that it was just YOUR opinion. Madden's animations have been way too robotic for quite some time. I guess I'll have to wait and see videos. Or can anyone of the other guys chime in on this?

# 519 coach_ruckus @ 04/14/09 07:32 PM

KyGamerLT GREAT POST!!!!!!! But those so called 2k guys who went to EA didnt even think of asking because madden heads dont care about real football

# 520 ch46647 @ 04/14/09 07:32 PM

Im with g2thcore on this one. I really hope they make the player movement less robotic.

This thread has been very entertaining to follow....

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