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Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Included

05:59 PM - April 13, 2009 by Ian_Cummings

Check out the new Madden NFL 10 blog. This one features the importance of an early community day.

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	"On April 10, we flew in 8 of the most hardcore Madden fans for a marathon testing day to get an extremely early look at our Alpha build and provide feedback based on where the game is thus far. You may ask, �What is new about this? Haven�t you had community events in the past?� Yes, we have done these before, but there are some key differences."

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# 721 Hotlanta @ 04/15/09 07:38 PM

Happy to know screen plays were at least brought up.

As for the Falcons thing, it would probably be more enjoyable finding out myself anyways. Still...if any tidbits are out there, don't be afraid to mention them

# 722 NFLHITMAN @ 04/15/09 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LBzrule


	Willis felt like an average back. He did not feel like Jacobs. Jacobs felt like a Bulldozer/Tank. McTrain on the other hand had that Jacobs feel.

Jacobs is the Christian Okoye or Earl Campbell from APF in Madden 10? I like big & powerful RB's so I will need to draft him #1 in my leagues if he is any where comparable to Campbell and Okoye.

# 723 Bump101 @ 04/15/09 09:06 PM

I really hope the suction blocking is fixed. I hate when I'm trying to tackle the ball carrier and the closes blocker on offense is 50 feet away, yet I'm magnetically forced to engage with the linemen for whatever reason. The overall core of the game needs to be fixed or redone. I thought Ian understood this, yet these problems still exist.

I still remain skeptical as far as whether these things get fixed or not. But at least I know Ian and company are at least working on creating a pocket for the QB.

But this whole forcing a QB to drop back at least 3 steps is still up in the air to me. On one hand, I want to be able to actually drop back the proper way so I can go through my progressions and give my linemen time to set up. But on the other hand I'm afraid that forcing a QB to drop back automatically will lead to exploitation and more cheesing and glitches. People will always find a way to try to "beat the system" and this will be no exception. The nano blitz is the first thing that comes to mind. Or what if the respond time for the automatic drop back is off(you go to throw or scramble because a defender broke free, but you are unable to do anything because the cpu or system isn't responding) and the QB will continue to drop back, instead of switching to manual or user control.

Ian is there's any chance you can give us a option to turn this automatic drop back on and off? Because me personally, I would prefer to drop back on my own and shift left or right(in the pocket) depending on which side the pressure is coming from.

Anyway, I'm glad some cats from the board was able to test madden in it's early stages and judging from their comments we won't regret buying madden and I hope the major problems that plague this game is fixed.

# 724 LBzrule @ 04/15/09 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLHITMAN


	Jacobs is the Christian Okoye or Earl Campbell from APF in Madden 10? I like big & powerful RB's so I will need to draft him #1 in my leagues if he is any where comparable to Campbell and Okoye.

Closer to Earl than Okoye. Didn't break tackles like Earl in 2k8 though - ughh. Earl in 2k8 was just way to crazy when you were handicapped by a lack of defensive fronts. Jacobs is beast though. Just not Earl. I don't think anyone will be like Earl, Rickey Williams, Eddie George. But to me they were only like that because on defense you were handicapped with a lack of fronts.

# 725 johnnyg713 @ 04/15/09 09:30 PM

I was just wondering were the controls the same? passing and everything was the same?

# 726 Glorious Arc @ 04/15/09 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LBzrule


	Closer to Earl than Okoye. Didn't break tackles like Earl in 2k8 though - ughh. Earl in 2k8 was just way to crazy when you were handicapped by a lack of defensive fronts. Jacobs is beast though. Just not Earl. I don't think anyone will be like Earl, Rickey Williams, Eddie George. But to me they were only like that because on defense you were handicapped with a lack of fronts.

Were you able to run the ball without having to do some animation to "break tackle" someone. Examples for me would be players like Barry Sanders and Brian Westbrook that often dont even get touched because they move in space but are still highly productive backs. It felt like EVERY single play you had to break a tackle to do anything and in the NFL its not like that.

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I know you may not be able to talk about the specfics but a yes or no would be great.

# 727 LBzrule @ 04/15/09 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Glorious Arc


	Were you able to run the ball without having to do some animation to "break tackle" someone. Examples for me would be players like Barry Sanders and Brian Westbrook that often dont even get touched because they move in space but are still highly productive backs. It felt like EVERY single play you had to break a tackle to do anything and in the NFL its not like that. EDIT: I know you may not be able to talk about the specfics but a yes or no would be great.

I had some runs where I was not touched. That's as specific as I can be for now.

# 728 Glorious Arc @ 04/15/09 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LBzrule


	I had some runs where I was not touched. That's as specific as I can be for now.

Thank you, thats good enough, Ill just wait till later after yall can talk more openly.

# 729 NFLHITMAN @ 04/15/09 09:53 PM

The sad thing about being SIM is that if we want real SIM football than there should be very few defenders in Madden with a Wrap up Tackler attribute. In the NFL as we know it today the basic fundamentals are out the window. Instead in this day we have everyone going for the SportsCenter highlight reel hit. That is cool to see but I would rather see basic fundamental wrap up tackles. It blows my mind to see how sloppy the NFL is in tackling in todays game. This is not just because they forgot how but also that they CAN NEVER PRACTICE THIS BECAUSE THE HEAD COACH IS TOO AFRAID OF THERE OFFENSIVE PLAYERS GETTING HURT!!!

I like Lofa but if he goes out and has another lack luster showing in the tackling department he will not be in my HOF!!!!

Sorry for the rant

# 730 Glorious Arc @ 04/15/09 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLHITMAN


	The sad thing about being SIM is that if we want real SIM football than there should be very few defenders in Madden with a Wrap up Tackler attribute. In the NFL as we know it today the basic fundamentals are out the window. Instead in this day we have everyone going for the SportsCenter highlight reel hit. That is cool to see but I would rather see basic fundamental wrap up tackles. It blows my mind to see how sloppy the NFL is in tackling in todays game. This is not just because they forgot how but also that they CAN NEVER PRACTICE THIS BECAUSE THE HEAD COACH IS TOO AFRAID OF THERE OFFENSIVE PLAYERS GETTING HURT!!! I like Lofa but if he goes out and has another lack luster showing in the tackling department he will not be in my HOF!!!! Sorry for the rant

It was a well placed rant lol. There really is an issue with NFL wrap up tackle in the open field and all that. It just bugs me the most that we dont see the hand tackles/grabs in madden like we see on almost every single play IRL(thats overstating obviously) Im curious if this is fixed in M10 but only time will tell with that currently

# 731 Vikes1 @ 04/15/09 11:55 PM

[quote=NFLHITMAN;2039431718] In the NFL as we know it today the basic fundamentals are out the window. Instead in this day we have everyone going for the SportsCenter highlight reel hit. /quote]

I'm glad you brought this up NFLHITMAN.

This armless body check tackling I constantly see, as you said...even at the pro level, drives me nuts.

I mean...how many times do you see the ball carrier gain huge yardage after some defender attempts this type of tackle? I can't believe they get away with tackling like that.

Makes me wonder what the conversation would be like between coach Vince Lombardi...and one of his defensive players after a tackle attempt like that. I've got a feeling it wouldn't be pretty.

# 732 NFLHITMAN @ 04/16/09 12:10 AM

[quote=Vikes1;2039432259]

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Originally Posted by NFLHITMAN


	In the NFL as we know it today the basic fundamentals are out the window. Instead in this day we have everyone going for the SportsCenter highlight reel hit. /quote] I'm glad you brought this up NFLHITMAN. This armless body check tackling I constantly see, as you said...even at the pro level, drives me nuts. I mean...how many times do you see the ball carrier gain huge yardage after some defender attempts this type of tackle? I can't believe they get away with tackling like that. Makes me wonder what the conversation would be like between coach Vince Lombardi...and one of his defensive players after a tackle attempt like that. I've got a feeling it wouldn't be pretty.

Yea LOL that talk would be classic! Sometimes I think I should go to Seattle and when I see Lofa just hall *** his way and give him a snot bubbler hit and when he asked WTF was that I can tell him that was a tackle Mother****er now start doing it on Sundays!!!!

# 733 adembroski @ 04/16/09 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Guillotine 1


	To Dave, Kane, LBZrule, Bezo, AJ, and the rest of the guys who went to community day- Thank you. Thanks for being a voice for this community, and a critical eye for the (talented group of) Devs at EA. I have read this entire thread twice, to get the best understanding of the information you guys have shared about your experience. In all seriousness, you guys did a great job...I'm certain that M10 will greatly profit from your invaluable input, feedback, and criticism. Thanks again, Izzy-

The thanks goes to Ian, for his vision and work ethic; Phil, for the wisdom to let Ian run with his vision; to Peter Moore for seeing the brilliance in all of it; to Donny, Michael, Josh, and everyone else working on the game now for being talented as hell.

When it comes down too it, we're just glorified QA, and we all know that. We're happy for the experience, it's an outstanding gesture to the community who live and breath football gaming, but really, we're a tiny drop in the bucket overall. I think this was Dave's basic point when he objected to the "Elite 8" label.

I'm just glad for the legacy. I can look back on this and say "I had a hand, however small, in helping to bring Madden back to greatness". That really means a lot to me. It seems dumb... I'm a 30 year old father and I'm getting this caught up in a video game... but I'm excited. Really and truly excited. And the great thing about it is, I know now that my faith over the past year in Ian has been well placed.

People have called me a kiss up (ironically enough, Dave more than anyone else!), but trust me when I tell you: It's been harder to go against the grain and stick with it (especially after SliderGate) than it would have been to throw up my hands and say "Same ol' EA" along with everyone else.

# 734 Megatron2k7 @ 04/16/09 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by adembroski


	The thanks goes to Ian, for his vision and work ethic; Phil, for the wisdom to let Ian run with his vision; to Peter Moore for seeing the brilliance in all of it; to Donny, Michael, Josh, and everyone else working on the game now for being talented as hell. When it comes down too it, we're just glorified QA, and we all know that. We're happy for the experience, it's an outstanding gesture to the community who live and breath football gaming, but really, we're a tiny drop in the bucket overall. I think this was Dave's basic point when he objected to the "Elite 8" label. I'm just glad for the legacy. I can look back on this and say "I had a hand, however small, in helping to bring Madden back to greatness". That really means a lot to me. It seems dumb... I'm a 30 year old father and I'm getting this caught up in a video game... but I'm excited. Really and truly excited. And the great thing about it is, I know now that my faith over the past year in Ian has been well placed. People have called me a kiss up (ironically enough, Dave more than anyone else!), but trust me when I tell you: It's been harder to go against the grain and stick with it (especially after SliderGate) than it would have been to throw up my hands and say "Same ol' EA" along with everyone else.

A picture is worth a thousand words..... right.

Nice post.

# 735 Vikes1 @ 04/16/09 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NFLHITMAN


	Yea LOL that talk would be classic!

I love watching that old film of coach Lombardi in 1967 vs the Rams out in LA.

When he's yelling...."What the hell is going on out there!"...."Grab, grab, grab"!..."Nobody tackling!" And then he turns to like 12 year veteran Henry Jordan, and starts threatening his starting position.

Coach Lombardi is scary even watching him 40 years later, on film.

# 736 CzecHitYou @ 04/16/09 12:53 AM

Well, I've read the first (and I say first) 850 posts and all I can say is.."Wow, I can't wait till August 14th!"

Great job Dave, Kane, LBZrule, Bezo, AJ, and many more for your continued effort in giving us the latest and greatest news to date about Madden 10.

It took me hours to read, but I am glad I did. Thanks again guys!

# 737 CzecHitYou @ 04/16/09 01:15 AM

^I agree^

It's just good to see the Madden franchise heading in the right direction!

# 738 chris luva luva @ 04/16/09 09:13 AM

They're just jealous, pay it no mind. I'm sure you guys did right by the community and the Madden fanbase. No worries.

# 739 SageInfinite @ 04/16/09 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dave374


	I'm getting this kind of crap at another gaming site I frequent. That's a load of something that rhymes with fit. I've been banned twice from OS. I defy anyone to find any post I've ever written that kissed anyone at EA's ***. Hell, one of the guys at the event pulled out a copy of NFL2k5 and said "If your game doesn't measure up, I'm putting this in the 360." I'm so sick of this crap about how all eight guys there were a collection of EA Sports shills. You should know me better than that by now Houtz ... and I'm cocking my fist to punch you through the computer screen for that accusation.

They're just haters man. It's pathetic. This site was Madden bash central for awhile.

# 740 Phobia @ 04/16/09 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dave374


	I'm getting this kind of crap at another gaming site I frequent. That's a load of something that rhymes with fit. I've been banned twice from OS. I defy anyone to find any post I've ever written that kissed anyone at EA's ***. Hell, one of the guys at the event pulled out a copy of NFL2k5 and said "If your game doesn't measure up, I'm putting this in the 360." I'm so sick of this crap about how all eight guys there were a collection of EA Sports shills. You should know me better than that by now Houtz ... and I'm cocking my fist to punch you through the computer screen for that accusation.

I agree Dave, Ian did a good job in picking the guys he did. Some of the guys who make these claims are just trying to stir the pot. Getting people all huffy for no reason.

I mean I am not the model of EA love posts, I have had many run ins about how I think EA football is TERRIBLE. But I HATE how people act like EA is out to get people and there is this big grand scheme. The simple fact is they try their hardest to make the best game possible. But who is working on the game is huge and a simple change like the "Direction" madden will take will make a world of a difference.

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