Basketball is NOT Hockey

[Playmakers]

I clinked on the link that Czar posted Jano and this is what I read

Creative director for NBA Elite 11 David Littman, who has made the NHL series at EA a huge success, said that, "Now, if someone makes a shot from half court, you can't get mad because it's entirely skill-based."

Shooting works simply by pushing up on the right stick and letting go to send the ball toward the goal. Though the mechanic is rather simplistic, the accuracy of how straight you push the stick up determines the accuracy of your release. The game's realistic physics system can also be used to aim to the side to hit a bank shot, or even allowing you to toss the ball between your hands to outsmart a defender on a layup or dunk.


So, I'm still confused is it more about the USER Stick Ability now in determining if the shots are made or missed?

[Jano]

Lol my bad I was pretty vague on that here is the interview I was talking about:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/n...eviews;title;2

Here is the part on your question:

Quote:

The shot is based on real life. You move the right stick up to start your shot and release it to release the ball. You have control of the accuracy and the distance. If you move the RS perfectly up to 12:00, your shot will go straight. If you miss left, the ball will go left. Miss it right, and the ball will go right. When you release the ball will control the distance. Release early, and the shot will be short. Release late, and the shot will be long. The system is so realistic that you can do manual bank shots by purposely aiming left or right and a bit long.

Quote:

If people are concerned that because it is skill-based shooting you can make every shot, then you can relax. Shots are harder to make if you are further away from the basket, are being closely guarded, are a below-average shooter, or you have too much fade or momentum, among other factors.

[Da_Czar]

[quote=kgisyourfather;2041130334]

Yes in the past, EA regarding particually Live when they talk about change it doesn't mean they are going the right direction. But look at their other sports games and read what they are trying to change. This isn't 5 years ago. It sounds like there is a sim focus here and the title speaks to that. QUOTE]

Yeah right here sums up both sides they have talked about it before other games have made strides HOPEFULLY your right and we all win. I'm firmly planted in the Missouri camp... There gonna have to show me...LOL. But I got you !

[Playmakers]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jano

Lol my bad I was pretty vague on that here is the interview I was talking about: http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/n...eviews;title;2 Here is the part on your question:

Yeah that kinda sounds like you control the outcome of just about every shot....

I don't know if that is a good thing or not for those who prefer to have the actual ability of the players to dictate outcomes.

For example lets say a guy is extremely good and mastered the shot stick and then he's shooting mid range jumpers with Eddie Curry how much IMPACT on the shot does Eddie Curry's actual ability have in NBA Live Elite?

Or we can just throw out player skill and it basically revolves around the human players ability alone

[Jano]

Well it seems to me that ratings will still come into play here b/c the difficulty of the shot is determined by more factors then shot ratings alone.

You have to deal with being contested, how far away you are, and ratings. And the fact that you control the shot all the way down to whether or not it goes left or right will make mastering it a bit difficult.

Because with a guy like Curry you have to be wide open, move the stick at the perfect angle, and release the ball with the right type of power. I don't see too many people being able to abuse due to all the things you need to go your way.

The pressure of all this seems a lot tougher then it past games b/c its much more like real life shooting. And I'm not even factoring in sig jumpshots that will make it even more of challenge because you also would have to account for the animations limits too.

Its seems that having great shooters on your team will be much more important now more then ever. In this system it seems like you could knock down some shots off of skill alone but, for convenience sake putting the ball in a good shooters hand will be more beneficial.

And if all else fails we still got sliders to tweak too..

[kgisyourfather]

[quote=Da_Czar;2041130376]

Quote: Originally Posted by kgisyourfather

Yes in the past, EA regarding particually Live when they talk about change it doesn't mean they are going the right direction. But look at their other sports games and read what they are trying to change. This isn't 5 years ago. It sounds like there is a sim focus here and the title speaks to that. QUOTE] Yeah right here sums up both sides they have talked about it before other games have made strides HOPEFULLY your right and we all win. I'm firmly planted in the Missouri camp... There gonna have to show me...LOL. But I got you !

I don't blame you. I want to see it myself. I hope this doesn't turn out to be something where it's always wait until next year. I'm so sick of that.

If it says Elite it better be ELITE!

Like has been said there is always that 1 year dev cycle when revamping a game. I hope we aren't back to madden 06.

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Playmakers

Yeah that kinda sounds like you control the outcome of just about every shot.... I don't know if that is a good thing or not for those who prefer to have the actual ability of the players to dictate outcomes. For example lets say a guy is extremely good and mastered the shot stick and then he's shooting mid range jumpers with Eddie Curry how much IMPACT on the shot does Eddie Curry's actual ability have in NBA Live Elite? Or we can just throw out player skill and it basically revolves around the human players ability alone

Playmakers you are more familiar with live than probably anyone with this new news man what do you think ?

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by mharlem

Lets not forget Ncaa b-ball no longer exist, so they might have a big team working on Elite 11.

that team wasn't that big mharlem and a few of them already worked on both titles anyway. So I'm sure you get some boost out of that by them working full time on it but don't know how much more. Its sounds from that article though that they put some more money into it so the team could be huge now.