Basketball is NOT Hockey

[ehh]

Quote: Originally Posted by Da_Czar

Definitely interesting. like with all that control though will it be too good ? will you loose that act react thing between the dance of death between offense and defense or will it be a perfect balance ? Will guys be able to do unnatural moves or cuts just because the game is so responsive ? Some people will love that cause when I move the stick he moves but that doesn't necessarily replicate the sport because there is delay in real life between decision and execution which is what makes hesitations and the like so effective.

This is what the real-time physics is supposed to take care of. Plus the Q&A said weight is a big factor with the technology.

I assume FIFA and NHL provide a good enough preview of what we'll see in terms of stick-responsiveness, though I haven't played either game.

[kgisyourfather]

The controls in fifa and nhl and how they meld with the fluidity of gameplay is the best i've seen. that is the whole appeal of those games and why they are so highly regarded. The controls and fluidity of gameplay in both games is legendary. You don't see those wtf animations that look out of place. Nor do you try to make a move that doesn't happen or get locked in an animation. Those games are spot on with their gameplay and controls.

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by kgisyourfather

The controls in fifa and nhl and how they meld with the fluidity of gameplay is the best i've seen. that is the whole appeal of those games and why they are so highly regarded. The controls and fluidity of gameplay in both games is legendary. You don't see those wtf animations that look out of place. Nor do you try to make a move that doesn't happen or get locked in an animation. Those games are spot on with their gameplay and controls.

Thanks as yet I haven't played those that helps put it in some sort of perspective.

[kgisyourfather]

Quote: Originally Posted by Da_Czar

Thanks as yet I haven't played those that helps put it in some sort of perspective.

I've always been a baseball, basketball, football sports gamer. I got fed up with games that didn't hit the mark. Minus the show there is always something wrong with 2k and EA when it comes to these sports. Madden is fun. But I picked up Fifa and NHL just because i wanted a good sports game that felt real without the headaches and was fun to play. They are exactly that. They are both awesome games. The gameplay is simplistic but realistic and very responsive.

I'm not even a hockey fan but I became one bceause I just wanted a good sports game to play. NHL is a great game.

[kgisyourfather]

I honestly think 2k and EA are fed up with the going back and forth. And are both legitamently trying to up their games to that level. The war is over. The Mike Wang Saga is over. It's not about 2k and Live anymore. I think we will see two very good basketball games.

[Jano]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

I dont know Jano I remember them saying they were trying to get away from ratings controlling what happens on the court. Matter of fact they even eliminated some of them between Live 09 and 10

Yea I agree with you on that one I guess the thing that sticks out to me is there seems like there is a whole lot more factors going into shooting jumpers in this years game.

So the ratings should have more of an effect along with distance away from basket, defender proximity, etc.

Last year imo didnt have that many factors in jumpshooting. You could for the most part make almost every shot especially with high rated shooters just by getting the timing down.

But it all comes down implementation like Czar said if they can't get that right all of my feelings will be dashed... again lol!!

[23]

For the most part yes. Footplanting sounded good in 07
I have no idea what the catch was in 08.. Gil's stepback
09 was DNA but it just in implementation more of a chore than a help
Live 10 DNA was all off wack and the biggest feature Dynamic Dna was broke the entire year. I dont know why people kept trying to use it and play it even well into the playoffs.

This is another year, another feature, sounds great again...but will it end up that way?

Live 10 initially felt sort of organic then quickly went down the chute.

[Jano]

Man I'm just tryin to stay optimistic even in situations like this where things could get a lot worse before they get better..

I love bball waaaay too much for me to even think Live i mean Elite will fail me again. Especially with the direction 2K's is currently going in I have to hold onto the hope that EA can save the day.

Its so backwards to think like this but hey, I like "direction" they have been trying to go in from 09 to now.