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MLB The Show 17 Video - Gameplay Improvements & Animations Expansion

  03:08 PM - February 7, 2017 by Steve_OS

Check out the latest MLB The Show 17 video, featuring gameplay improvements and an expanded amount of animations available for this year. The video also provides more details on new ball physics, the all new Catch and Throw engine, Cat and Mouse gameplay, and the new catcher throwing meter.

Don't forget to tune into the MLB The Show 17 Twitch stream on Thursday at 5:00 PM ET, as the team gives more details.

Game: MLB The Show 17Hype Score: 9/10 - Vote Now
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# 261 countryboy @ 02/09/17 03:20 PM
I am hoping that some of the new animations are new diving/jumping/lunging catch animations for outfielders in particular. I personally, think the ones they have now lack "excitement/flair" for lack of better terms.

I want to see a catch animation play out that makes me say "WOW! What a catch!"
 
# 262 WaitTilNextYear @ 02/09/17 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cable guy
I just hope humanity based AI, is also ratings based.... which would be off the charts incredible. Good fielders, good outcomes. Bad fielders, bad and drive you insane outcomes. But a on/off option is always a good thing

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Seems like a good question to ask in today's stream. The ratings based and the on/off part.
 
# 263 LastActionHero @ 02/09/17 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaffer26
Wasn't the biggest fan of 2K baseball, but their jersey physics were quite good in my opinion. If it was a windy day, you could tell.


Everyday was a windy day there at 2K [emoji1]
 
# 264 WaitTilNextYear @ 02/09/17 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by countryboy
I am hoping that some of the new animations are new diving/jumping/lunging catch animations for outfielders in particular. I personally, think the ones they have now lack "excitement/flair" for lack of better terms.

I want to see a catch animation play out that makes me say "WOW! What a catch!"
Let's also hope they've toned down the frequency of the 'outfielder drifts off to the side and drops glove' animation for catching fly balls. Not every play requires that kind of adjustment.
 
# 265 agentlaw13 @ 02/09/17 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by countryboy
I am hoping that some of the new animations are new diving/jumping/lunging catch animations for outfielders in particular. I personally, think the ones they have now lack "excitement/flair" for lack of better terms.

I want to see a catch animation play out that makes me say "WOW! What a catch!"


Agree. From that Heyward catch, plant, and throw sequence, it looks like we might get some refreshing animations.

I wish they would take out the catch where the outfielder is running one direction but he stretches out his glove hand/arm in the opposite direction of where he is running to. Always thought that was an odd animation that you rarely see irl.


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# 266 countryboy @ 02/09/17 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by agentlaw13
Agree. From that Heyward catch, plant, and throw sequence, it looks like we might get some refreshing animations.
I am hopeful.

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Originally Posted by agentlaw13
I wish they would take out the catch where the outfielder is running one direction but he stretches out his glove hand/arm in the opposite direction of where he is running too. Always thought that was an odd animation that you rarely see irl.


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I honestly don't mind that animation but it plays far too frequently. New catch animations are certainly needed.
 
# 267 BigOscar @ 02/09/17 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by countryboy
I am hoping that some of the new animations are new diving/jumping/lunging catch animations for outfielders in particular. I personally, think the ones they have now lack "excitement/flair" for lack of better terms.

I want to see a catch animation play out that makes me say "WOW! What a catch!"
I'm more pleased at the news that the computer won't be making perfect diving grabs every time anymore! That's what made them seem so routine imo, if I ever manage a diving catch I'm well pleased.

On the whole player models thing, it might just be the way I am, but I couldn't care less, I won't even notice after an hour. New animations and more realistic gameplay I will enjoy and will make a big difference to me, but what stuff actually looks like fades from my view within minutes of noticing it. But then again, I'm not that observant of details as my wife would testify. I probably couldn't even say what colour the walls of our house are, it's all just background to me after the initial noticing.
 
# 268 Shaffer26 @ 02/09/17 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LastActionHero
Everyday was a windy day there at 2K [emoji1]
Ha true! But I'd prefer them over static jerseys.
 
# 269 strawberryshortcake @ 02/09/17 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by breakfastcat
You know, I know this board likes to talk about new player models all the time, and I agree with it for the most part. They feel outdated, compared to what other games are doing. But the more I think about the current ones, the more I realize that it's not necessarily player models themselves that aren't great. It's really just the cloth physics on the jerseys that could be improved.

They could keep all the same overall model and animations intact, but if they could make the jerseys have more free-flowing physics to them so that they don't look so stiff, similar to NBA 2k's jerseys, I think it would do wonders for the look of the players. Have the jerseys bounce slightly when players are running, let them subtly blow in the wind, twist when players swing, etc. Stuff like that would make a big difference to the look and atmosphere of the game, without having to go and re-do the player models entirely, animations and all. I don't know how possible something like that would be to implement, but it's gotta be easier than changing the entire animation engine for all new player models.

Seeing the slight change in Arrieta's sleeves in that pic makes it seem like they are going more down the route of improving jerseys, and hopefully something like more advanced cloth physics is not too far down the line.
Cloth physics can certainly add to it, but it definitely boils down to player models and animations.

With regards to player models, cloth physics isn't going to change the length of the arms, torso, versus a player's leg length. It also isn't going to change the shoulder, waist to hip ratio. It's not going to change a player's vertical height. It's also not going to change how the neck region looks when the person turns his head.

With regards to animations, the number one problem I've always seen as to why the game doesn't truly capture the essence of player movement comes down to how the team handles motion capture is in game adrenaline rush. In game adrenaline rush is missing during motion capture sessions. Secondly, I suspect either none of the MoCap pitches are thrown at 90+mph velocity which is why MLB the Show Pitcher's whole body follow through doesn't look as authentic as they could be. An outfielder 395 feet away from homeplate isn't going to be captured via MoCap sessions if the MoCap artist doesn't have the same amount of "space/distance" to work with. If he doesn't use the same force, velocity, effort, arm/torso/shoulder/legs to throw a ball 395 feet (or the distance from him to the cutoff man) during the mocap sessions, it's not going to replicate what we see on TV or how the body actually moves.
 
# 270 sandmac @ 02/09/17 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tnixen
They might not be full blown new player models but I definitely see some improvements!

His arms look better to me too.
Wow, no he looks far too short for his head size. Sorry but it's disproportionate.
 
# 271 DamnYanks2 @ 02/09/17 05:05 PM
Oh it's 2 pm pacific time, Damnit.

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# 272 bacon96 @ 02/09/17 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sandmac
Wow, no he looks far too short for his head size. Sorry but it's disproportionate.
Still not as disproportionate as Tommy LaStella
 
# 273 Krebstar @ 02/09/17 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DamnYanks2
Oh it's 2 pm pacific time, Damnit.

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Ha, yeah I sat down with lunch right at my desk at 2pm EST and was ready to go, then I realized my mistake.
 
# 274 DamnYanks2 @ 02/09/17 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MythicalGnome
The colors in general just seem extremely weak in the lighting system. I have no idea why as I don't code the game. But the lushness of real life is definitely missing way too much for my liking.
Couldn't agree more. I never use the redsox so I never noticed.

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# 275 Bobhead @ 02/09/17 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Krebstar
Ha, yeah I sat down with lunch right at my desk at 2pm EST and was ready to go, then I realized my mistake.
...You got Arby's instead of Wendy's??? Don't leave us hanging dude, what was the mistake?
 
# 276 ryanmc564 @ 02/09/17 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobhead
...You got Arby's instead of Wendy's??? Don't leave us hanging dude, what was the mistake?
Uh........that the stream was at 2pm pacific time not eastern.....or maybe you were being funny and i ruined it.
 
# 277 countryboy @ 02/09/17 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ryanmc564
Uh........that the stream was at 2pm pacific time not eastern.....or maybe you were being funny and i ruined it.


He was being funny


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# 278 ryanmc564 @ 02/09/17 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by countryboy
He was being funny


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Dammit, i always ruin it.. Don't bother, I'll see myself out...
 
# 279 WaitTilNextYear @ 02/10/17 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MythicalGnome
"I'm almost certain that the shading, colors, lighting etc is nowhere near what the final product will be."

It's good to be positive, but I literally have heard this same phrase in some amount of words for four years lol. I'll just wait to see what they have. This is getting closer to what the final product will be. They literally have another month or so at the latest until gold.

Things are looking decent, but don't kid yourself. This is what you are getting minus a few things they will show us in the previews.
Hey, they've cracked the lighting code once before during crunch time and by god I have faith that they can crack it again.
 
# 280 Factzzz @ 02/11/17 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverBullet1929

And why the Red Sox jerseys in daylight look like this washed out shade of brick red...

Instead of like this...


If this is a style guide issue then there's a bigger problem than we think. I just hope this stuff is taken into consideration sooner rather than later.

Besides this, I loved the video and all the improvements. Can't wait for Thursday!
I made a post about the red being off in 2014 when the game first went to ps4, and it still hasn't been improved, probably not enough people said anything about it.

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Originally Posted by Factzzz
Anyone feel like the Red Sox red is too burgundy?
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Originally Posted by Factzzz
Seems like every red looks kind of burgundy to me, is it just me?
 


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