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Looking at the list of upcoming demos for the week (via PlayStation.Blog), it doesn't appear as though we will see a Madden NFL 15 demo this week and odds are we won't see one next week either.

Things could change, but it doesn't look like we get a Madden demo this year. It could have something to do with EA Access, but that is an Xbox One exclusive. Who really knows, but it certainly doesn't look promising.

We have sent a note to EA Sports and if we get an official response we will update this post.

UPDATE: Just received an official response from EA Sports. Confirmed: No Madden NFL 15 demo.

UPDATE #2: (Polygon received a more detailed response)

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Update: While EA initially declined to comment on the reasons for the lack of a Madden 15 demo, an EA representative reached out to Polygon after the publication of this story with the following statement to provide some additional context: "The difficult decision not to do a demo for Madden was strictly a result of the team's commitment to deliver the highest-quality game possible. We chose to put 100 percent of our development resources toward the full game."

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# 161 Demoncrom @ 08/11/14 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceMask
True. Producing a demo is serious and expensive business that the general gamer isn't aware of. In many cases, it can be akin to producing a separate game. That's why I wince when I hear people complain about Kickstarter projects and general indie games not having them. Just tells me the industry hasn't done much to educate gamers on how these things work.

That said, it seems like demos at the AAA level are getting lean this generation, and I don't like it one bit. Overall, it seems like EA/Tiburon is trimming the fat from their marketing and at the same time trying to avoid over-saturation. We'll see how that works sales-wise this year.
This is interesting timing. I am not sure the last time EA decided to not release a Madden demo. Might this mean that real effort went into the game. Lets see.
 
# 162 NYJin2011tm @ 08/11/14 08:51 PM
There's a report on joystiq saying only EA Access membership will grant you a demo. Don't know if it's true but I was never one to get into knocking companies and such but if true kinda low by EA imo.
 
# 163 canes21 @ 08/11/14 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CM Hooe
No, I have not played the game. However, Tiburon has gone well out of their way to educate gamers about exactly what they are buying this year.

I'm already buying the game, personally, so the lack of demo is a mild disappointment, but it's not something from which I'm going to try and draw any subliminal message.
They've shown the game, but even then, it's looked so different in broadcasts. It looked great and I was on the fence and looking forward to more info.

Then they broadcast it again and the game looks bad. I'm not talking washed out colors either. I am talking no missed passes, the same legacy issues we've always seen that were absent in the first video, the lack of the new features actually appearing. It's almost like they turned up the frequency for all of their new features to show up a ton in the first broadcast, then we got the real picture in the last two. Now I know that it doesn't work like that at all, but it's just incredible how different this game can look in each video.

I've learned my lesson. EA didn't get my purchase last year. I rented it from GameFly and thought it was okay. TrueStep was a good addition and had me extremely excited. However, unlike the typical EA, TrueStep has received no attention in year 2. Yes, that was sarcasm. It absolutely kills my hype for the series even more to see something so great receive nothing. Maybe it got a tweak here, a tweak there, I doubt it, but it definitely didn't get a year's worth of work in my eyes.

It's also just amazing to me how EA still has yet to learn their lesson. How many features are they going to add for the User and not the CPU too? We're in 2014 and the AI is finally making pre-play adjustments. That just depresses me. Madden is built to be a H2H game and I am finally seeing that. This new team can say what they want, and a few things I actually believe from them, but overall, Tiburon is still Tiburon and the overall progression of this game is so far behind the rest of the industry that it's embarrassing. I've got games I'm playing on the PC with only 4 people developing it and I've seen more additions to it in 3 months than I saw in the last 3 years of Madden. 4 whole people.

You know what though? I love football and I could be wrong about this new team. I won't know though because EA isn't letting out a demo. I know I am not the only person either in this situation, but who knows if me and the 'group' I belong to will make any dent in sales. To me, a company randomly stopping their tradition of releasing a demo does not give me any hope at all. Just last year this same exact company released one for Live to give gamers an idea of the additions to the game from the last one years ago, and now they are completely flip flopped from letting gamers get a feel? Yea, I don't like that one bit. Complaining won't change a thing now.
 
# 164 ryan36 @ 08/11/14 08:55 PM
The videos definitely don't give the same sort of awareness as a demo. That being said, I've never based a purchase off of a demo anyway.
 
# 165 tapey @ 08/11/14 09:02 PM
Im about to go Tom Brady mode!
 
# 166 Aggies7 @ 08/11/14 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by iBleedOrange247
All I know is after seeing the CFM broadcast I'm ready for the 21st.

Are you talking about the broadcast or the CFM presentation? If your talking about presentation, are referring to the live steam or is there something more updated. The live stream showed some of it, but would love to see more if it's out there.
 
# 167 BTownSlinger @ 08/11/14 10:14 PM
no demo, no dinero
 
# 168 Mckinley Cash @ 08/11/14 10:19 PM
As a gamer, I'm disappointed in not having a demo. As a consumer, I'm happy those resources are being put towards madden.
 
# 169 CujoMatty @ 08/11/14 10:27 PM
Theres a good IGN article on the situation. I actually learned that EA access isnt on PS4 because of Sony not EA. Apparently Sony didnt feel the service wasnt worth 30 dollars a year. I gotta disagree if it gets me all EA games a week early. Why is Sony deciding for me whats worth my money. im glad I have an XboxOne as well as a PS4 but I was really hoping to get my sports games for PS4. but if I start my franchises 5 days early im clearly gonna buy the game for Xbone to continue it.
 
# 170 havoc00 @ 08/11/14 10:45 PM
Honestly, I've just found Madden boring and stale the last 4-5 years, and I was hoping being able to try this "new defense" out in the demo would sway me and get some excitement back into the game. But no demo no buy, unless there is a consitsnret stream of positive impressions after 2 or 3 weeks, other then that meh.
 
# 171 kehlis @ 08/11/14 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by havoc00
Honestly, I've just found Madden boring and stale the last 4-5 years, and I was hoping being able to try this "new defense" out in the demo would sway me and get some excitement back into the game. But no demo no buy, unless there is a consitsnret stream of positive impressions after 2 or 3 weeks, other then that meh.
So a demo which features only two teams and a short game wouldn't seem boring and stale to you?

If your problem with Madden is it feels stale (and I don't at all disagree) how would a short demo sway your opinion?


I love the "No demo, no buy" posts. It's nothing but an excuse to use something else to complain about EA with.

There are a plethora of options at your fingertips to make an informed decision. You don't need a demo to decide if you're going to buy the game or not.
 
# 172 canes21 @ 08/11/14 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kehlis
So a demo which features only two teams and a short game wouldn't seem boring and stale to you?

If your problem with Madden is it feels stale (and I don't at all disagree) how would a short demo sway your opinion?


I love the "No demo, no buy" posts. It's nothing but an excuse to use something else to complain about EA with.

There are a plethora of options at your fingertips to make an informed decision. You don't need a demo to decide if you're going to buy the game or not.
I think those of us have a valid reason to say we're not buying it if we can't try it. If renting is an option for someone, then they could always do that, but if the demo was your only chance at playing it yourself, then why wouldn't it be valid to hold off?

Don't tell me impressions and reviews are the way to go and will help you make an informed decision. I can find 10 different reviews and impressions for any game out there contradicting each other. Heck, look at each forum on this site alone. Each game from Live to NBA 2k, this one, The Show, etc. all have 100's of different opinions that make it impossible to actually know what you're in for.

Streams, however, could help a lot better. You don't get to feel the game and they are not the full experience, but are 10x a better source than any opinion out there at all.

I still think it's pretty valid to not be leaning towards purchasing the game at all because of the history of the franchise and the lack of a demo. It's not because we have an agenda and are looking for something new with EA to complain about. If I had an EA agenda I doubt I would be playing UFC, looking into playing my copy of NCAA 14, or playing Fifa 14. Considering UFC and Fifa have been two of my most played games over the last two months, I doubt having beef with EA is my problem.

My problem is Madden and how bad the franchise has been and I don't like the feeling I get about the lack of a demo one bit. I don't buy the EA statements because I could have thought of the same statements in 5 seconds myself. I'm not saying Madden has been terrible. I played a couple seasons last year, but it was worth the rent and not a buy. I might rent it this year, but Destiny and NHL are coming out soon as well among many other games, so the lack of a demo really does hurt EA's chances with me. Of course my lone sell means absolutely nothing.

I'm sorry I turned this response into a novel, but I just disagree there is a 'plethora' of options to help make an informed decision. Like I said, reviews and impressions are all opinions and are always all over the place contradicting one another even on this site and I would never consider those to be a real valuable source.
 
# 173 kehlis @ 08/11/14 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by canes21
I think those of us have a valid reason to say we're not buying it if we can't try it. If renting is an option for someone, then they could always do that, but if the demo was your only chance at playing it yourself, then why wouldn't it be valid to hold off?.
Renting is an option for everyone, you mentioned the options yourself in your earlier post (and yes, physical establishments to rent from are gone for everyone, not just you).


I appreciate someone saying they won't blindly buy the game, I really do.

But every single person has ways to experience the game without a demo, even if it's going to the nearest Best Buy when the kiosks start having Madden on display.
 
# 174 canes21 @ 08/11/14 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kehlis
Renting is an option for everyone, you mentioned it yourself in your earlier post (and yes, physical establishments to rent from are gone for everyone, not just you).


I appreciate someone saying the won't blindly buy the game, I really do.

But every single person has ways to experience the game without a demo, even if it's going to the nearest Best Buy when the kiosks start having Madden on display.
I get what you are saying and I kind of feel you are probably right, but I just feel renting should not be the way to go. Then again renting is there for just that reason. I guess it's where I've always hated renting games so it makes me biased when it comes into the equation. Oh well.

 
# 175 Skyboxer @ 08/11/14 11:48 PM
Just wait for a used copy to get on shelf at GS/EB and buy it then. Don't like it.. take it back.
 
# 176 kehlis @ 08/11/14 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by canes21
I get what you are saying and I kind of feel you are probably right, but I just feel renting should not be the way to go. Then again renting is there for just that reason. I guess it's where I've always hated renting games so it makes me biased when it comes into the equation. Oh well.

Actually renting is a far better barometer than playing any demo.

As previously mentioned, the demo itself is an older build of the game and does not give an accurate representation of the game.

Anyone who is truly on the fence about a game should not be basing their final decision on a demo.
 
# 177 canes21 @ 08/11/14 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kehlis
Actually renting is a far better barometer than playing any demo.

As previously mentioned, the demo itself is an older build of the game and does not give an accurate representation of the game.

Anyone who is truly on the fence about a game should not be basing their final decision on a demo.
In my opinion the final build was always better than the demo, so I always used the demos to make my decision with NCAA or Madden and skipped a few years of each game thanks to the demos. However, I understand where you are coming from and in no way am I trying to argue you are wrong.
 
# 178 kehlis @ 08/12/14 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by canes21
In my opinion the final build was always better than the demo, so I always used the demos to make my decision with NCAA or Madden and skipped a few years of each game thanks to the demos. However, I understand where you are coming from and in no way am I trying to argue you are wrong.
I appreciate that and I know you aren't trying to argue but do you realize how little sense your statement makes?

If you are admitting that you realize the demo is never as good as the final build how have you decided to not buy based on something that you admit might not be as good as the actual game?
 
# 179 MAGboyswifT27 @ 08/12/14 12:11 AM
That's unfortunate that we won't have a demo but that won't stop me from picking up my copy on the 26th. I can see both sides of why this is good or not. Either way I'm in my 2 week countdown mode..
 
# 180 kenlovin @ 08/12/14 12:36 AM
Yea i will just gamefly it or catch it redbox first. Its a hassle but nothing insurmountable. As with everyone else i can't rmr the last time a demo came out for a game, it just seems like the industry as a whole is moving away from them.
 


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