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VSN has posted a new podcast with Madden NFL 25 Creative Director, Michael Young. There are quite a few interesting presentation nuggets included, some of which we have listed below.
  • The Presentation playbook went away this year, but that doesn't mean the team hasn't been working hard on it.
  • Year 2 with Nance and Simms adds more depth in commentary, especially in career mode, more details on that at a later date.
  • Replays feel more human, varied and specific to the types of plays. Using real cameras, from the real locations in the stadiums (framing, timing, etc.)
  • New animated tickers, banners, feels more like a broadcast.
  • Added more team chants, first down and stadium sounds, since they went to many stadiums with Jim and Phil and grabbed live recordings.
  • More authentic tracks from various stadiums. Redone referee audio.
  • If you move your team, commentators will talk about that.
  • New sideline reporter has been added, will talk about that later.
  • Adam Schefter is still in the virtual news feed, breaking story lines, but he has also been added to the draft commentary.
  • When the draft is running, Trey Wingo is the host and Adam talks about the outlook and expectations of the player.
  • Brand new branching story lines for 30 draft classes and Adam made them sound authentic. Adam has been signed for a couple of years.
  • Can't place players on the PUP list. (Injured reserve IS STILL in the game) - Mike misunderstood the question in podcast.
  • Owners can't bid for Super Bowl hosting.
  • Overhauled Connected Franchise website, much more functional with tutorials.
  • Commissioner tools haven't been locked down, so they couldn't announce any of them.
  • Facial scans were made for most of last year's rookie class (roughly 20 didn't get in) All starting QB's and some QB's that could see some time.
  • Also ran facial scans for coaches, in total close to 100 facial scans made it in.
  • Players get scanned if they are available at events (for example the Pro Bowl) some simply don't want to. Basically EA gets what they can, when they can. It's not as easy as people may think it is.
  • They have tweaked the Zoom camera, didn't mention any other cameras.
  • The rumors are FALSE. There is no PC version of Madden NFL 25.
  • Head coaches, head trainers, head scouts and owners will be featured in story lines, not coordinators.
Remember, these were just some of the nuggets, make sure you listen to the entire podcast here.

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# 201 Armor and Sword @ 06/04/13 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tfctillidie
NBA 2K has 9 AI's on the court.

MLB the Show has about the same.

Madden has 21 player AI's.

I would also consider the requirement of a Madden AI to be much more complex than an AI in the Show. The AI in the Show has to move to a spot, catch a ball, then pick one of 5 locations where to throw. Madden AI have to account for many things all at the same time, that's football. They all have to identifiy the play, react, then react to all other 21 players and what they are doing, then make a split second decision if they are involved in the play. You're going to argue that's the same computing requirement?

Furthermore, you can find just as many complaints about the AI in those titles with a simple google search ('NBA2K11 Player AI' returns 3 links on the 1st page about bad teammate AI). I was referencing PC titles, such as Total War or Half Life, where the AI is considered some of the best ever written by gamers and media alike, not just "being better than Madden" which really isn't much of an achievement.

Give me a break. Gave dev's have been saying for over a year their titles are maxing out the consoles. Hardware is a problem.

This doesn't counter the argument no matter how many internet ragers like your post.


I understand football has a little more to deal with being 11 on 11.


But when I see AI go backwards from M12 to M13 I have to question what happened. For me core gameplay is critical. Everything else becomes bells and whistles and does not matter if I can't play a good game of Sim football against the CPU like I get on 12.


And don't sell Baseball and Basketball short. The Pitcher/batter AI and team management AI for The Show is really strong. I don't care what anyone else thinks. It is my opinion. Plenty of whiners in The Show forums and 2K forums....I am not part of that mob mentality. And I am a huge pioneer Madden supporter.


And 2K11's computer opponent AI was great. And has not been matched by that series since. 2K11's CPU AI was smart, knew when to double team, ran your plays correctly. it is widely considered one of the very best console sports games ever.


For me it was about the big steps backwards M13 took from 12. That is all.


I really hope M25 is awesome. I want an awesome football game for my PS3...still waiting for that awesome sauce! So far I have gotten some decent salsa (M12, NCAA 13) but that's it.
 
# 202 schmit_95 @ 06/04/13 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jpdavis82
Oh I don't know, hopefully not, it would be nice if they got stadium sounds for all 32 teams but I doubt it. We'll start to find out in 6 days.
I could overlook so many bugs if they got all 32 stadium sounds in!! Madden 11 had 6 fight songs, and they worked really well. That madden 12 audio is just terrible.
And I have a theory on the sideline reporter. If its Melissa stark, Steve Tasker, maybe Sterling Sharpe from NFl network, its going to be a great addition! If , and I mean when, its announced to be Erin Andrews, were all in trouble. Recylced NCAA sideline stuff if thats the case.
Just a theory though! Hoping for the best!!
 
# 203 tfctillidie @ 06/04/13 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Armor & Sword
I understand football has a little more to deal with being 11 on 11.


But when I see AI go backwards from M12 to M13 I have to question what happened. For me core gameplay is critical. Everything else becomes bells and whistles and does not matter if I can't play a good game of Sim football against the CPU like I get on 12.


And don't sell Baseball and Basketball short. The Pitcher/batter AI and team management AI for The Show is really strong. I don't care what anyone else thinks. It is my opinion. Plenty of whiners in The Show forums and 2K forums....I am not part of that mob mentality. And I am a huge pioneer Madden supporter.


And 2K11's computer opponent AI was great. And has not been matched by that series since. 2K11's CPU AI was smart, knew when to double team, ran your plays correctly. it is widely considered one of the very best console sports games ever.


For me it was about the big steps backwards M13 took from 12. That is all.


I really hope M25 is awesome. I want an awesome football game for my PS3...still waiting for that awesome sauce! So far I have gotten some decent salsa (M12, NCAA 13) but that's it.

Forest from the trees man!

Yes a pitcher's AI is complex...but it's about simultaneous computing! It's why I disregard a comparison to a shooter because you can make a great AI for an individual boss sure...but make me a great AI when I have to face 21 bosses at once?
 
# 204 jpdavis82 @ 06/04/13 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by schmit_95
I could overlook so many bugs if they got all 32 stadium sounds in!! Madden 11 had 6 fight songs, and they worked really well. That madden 12 audio is just terrible.
And I have a theory on the sideline reporter. If its Melissa stark, Steve Tasker, maybe Sterling Sharpe from NFl network, its going to be a great addition! If , and I mean when, its announced to be Erin Andrews, were all in trouble. Recylced NCAA sideline stuff if thats the case.
Just a theory though! Hoping for the best!!
How could they recycle lines from NCAA with Erin Andrews for Madden 25? I highly doubt it would be her. I'm thinking it's most likely Tasker or Stark.
 
# 205 jpdavis82 @ 06/04/13 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SageInfinite
SMH@those cameras. Why would they get away from those? Game looks so much better than 13 in that aspect.
I know man, I really hope 25 goes back to these and somehow adds more angles/replays and improves on them. At least go back to what we had in Madden 12 and then stay and improve from there in the future, don't go BACKWARDS again!
 
# 206 schmit_95 @ 06/04/13 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jpdavis82
How could they recycle lines from NCAA with Erin Andrews for Madden 25? I highly doubt it would be her. I'm thinking it's most likely Tasker or Stark.
Hoping its either of them, and I hear you on recycling her lines from NCAA, but you know what Im trying to say, without using the L word everyone uses for EA Tiburoun!
 
# 207 DeuceDouglas @ 06/04/13 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jpdavis82
How could they recycle lines from NCAA with Erin Andrews for Madden 25? I highly doubt it would be her. I'm thinking it's most likely Tasker or Stark.
I'm hoping it's Stark. Worked well last gen. Could also be Alex Flanagan since she was on the Extra Point show when they had it. All I really want is an expanded version of what last-gen had. The talk with the coaches pre-game and post halftime, injury updates, that's about it. Just stuff that's relevant to the game I'm playing.
 
# 208 jpdavis82 @ 06/04/13 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bucky60
Don't worry, I hear you, even thought the others totally ignore your point. I've noticed non of them has addressed your actual point of how you go backwards in AI between 12 and 13..
That might have something to do with the title of this thread
 
# 209 jbd345 @ 06/04/13 09:22 PM
The only thing I fear with the sideline reporter is them repeating everything fom week to week.
 
# 210 SageInfinite @ 06/04/13 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal
lol, you are mature and wise enough to know how it goes, never let the truth and facts get in the way of a good story. What's funny is, if I thought Madden was such a good game or was going to be, I couldn't care less what others thought. I would of course respect their opinion but it wouldn't bother me, nor would I feel compelled to change their mind. It's one thing if someone stated they like or don't like the game and then proceeds to articulate why to others, cool but when we get into the selective memory to support opinions, that's when I smh.

I haven't been satisfied with next-gen Madden for any considerable length of time in a long time and when I post about it, it's therapy, wrapped in constructive criticism, which beats screaming at the wall or just giving up on football gaming. However, I don't get frustrated with or feel the need to convert those that are satisfied with game, unless they try to imply there must be something wrong with me since I'm not.

On the topic of presentation, I get the impression that the creative minds behind it in Madden think emulating a broadcast is somehow boring and "old hat". That same disconnect was there even with Ian, in certain regards, when he would state things like "you want that in a video game?" I will never understand the seeming philosophy from Tiburon that they can do something better before every actually doing it right. That's the the impression I get from Mike Young with presentation, "of course we could easily do it just like a network broadcast but what fun would that be?" lol
All truth posted right here. That's why I'm never in the NBA 2k or MLB The Show Forums. I don't care to talk about them because I'm too busy enjoying them. In this forum I'm just on the opposite end, because there are guys in those forums who feel how I feel about Madden. I still don't try to sway their opinions or convert them to lovers of the dev team or game.

Also Tiburon is hilarious with their approaches to presentation at times. I think their getting on the right track now though(hopefully). At least that GOD AWFUL on the field approach is gone that they tried from 06-08. IDK what they were thinking with that. It's like master it before you move onto something else.
 
# 211 PVarck31 @ 06/04/13 09:42 PM
I do agree with Armor & Sword. I played 12 and 13 this week. I have 12 and rented 13. I like a lot of the features more in 13 -- like the pass trajectories-- but 12 does play a better game of football imo.
 
# 212 tfctillidie @ 06/04/13 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bucky60
Don't worry, I hear you, even thought the others totally ignore your point. I've noticed non of them has addressed your actual point of how you go backwards in AI between 12 and 13..
Someone argues Tiburon ignores AI. I argue it's limited by hardware. A&S says M13 went backwards and something about features or whatever, ignoring that I'm stating a case about the hardware use for the greater AI we all want, that it being a step backwards is not a talking point.

That computing 21 individual AI's to absorb and reaction to a wide variety of variables in seconds is certainly going to demand more from the hardware than a single pitcher in MLB The Show.



But of course to you Bucky, the one of the "EA sucks" argument is the one being ignored.

Very typical OS.


For the record, I didn't see anyone refute his claim...it merely doesn't matter to the point I've made. I don't care about it going backwards, I'm arguing the challenge of it going leaps forward...the leaps we all want and ask for.
 
# 213 morkusyambo @ 06/05/13 05:22 AM
These new features are nice only if they make the experience more immersive. If they add more windows/menus it will not feel that way.

I don't care about any of this unless they fix the OL/DL interactions and the sliders.
 
# 214 Diehardfan @ 06/05/13 01:09 PM
13 pages of complaining.....its not that I disagree with your complaints, I disagree with your solution. Coming here and crying does nothing....N O T H I N G. The only way to show your disappointment that EA will actually take notice of, is to NOT buy the game. But no, can't do that can ya? So basically, you reap what you sow...you keep buying this game and keep filling EA's considerable pockets and you get what they feel like giving you. Welcome to corporate America.......
 
# 215 jpdavis82 @ 06/05/13 03:26 PM
Buy don't buy, complaining doesn't do anything, blah blah blah.

I foresee the end of this thread soon if we don't get back on topic.

Sooo, what stadium specific songs, chants, or sound effects are you guys hoping to see? I am hoping they put the "Bang the Drum" song back in the game for when the Packers score a TD. That is a huge part of the Lambeau experience.
 
# 216 MrSerendipity @ 06/05/13 03:51 PM
Personally, I'd really like to see the Drum Line that Dallas comes out too make it into the game.
 
# 217 DeuceDouglas @ 06/05/13 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jpdavis82
I foresee the end of this thread soon if we don't get back on topic.

Sooo, what stadium specific songs, chants, or sound effects are you guys hoping to see? I am hoping they put the "Bang the Drum" song back in the game for when the Packers score a TD. That is a huge part of the Lambeau experience.
There's a topic? It isn't an open thread? Who knew.

As far as stadium specific stuff, I'd like to see a return of 'The Hey Song' after I score touchdowns in Arrowhead. Absolutely loved hearing that with the crowd going crazy. It's just unfortunate they can't put the "We're gonna beat the hell out of YOU YOU YOU YOU" in there.
 
# 218 jpdavis82 @ 06/05/13 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas
There's a topic? It isn't an open thread? Who knew.

As far as stadium specific stuff, I'd like to see a return of 'The Hey Song' after I score touchdowns in Arrowhead. Absolutely loved hearing that with the crowd going crazy. It's just unfortunate they can't put the "We're gonna beat the hell out of YOU YOU YOU YOU" in there.
They actually had that whole chant in madden 11 I think it was.
 
# 219 DeuceDouglas @ 06/05/13 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jpdavis82
They actually had that whole chant in madden 11 I think it was.
Yeah, I think it was just the 'YOU' part IIRC. It was either that or they went silent where they said hell which could have been it too. Definitely would like to see it back in that capacity though. I think the past couple it's just played a regular song.
 
# 220 Armor and Sword @ 06/05/13 04:34 PM
I want all the team specific chants and fight songs back in full force, and for the love of God.

NFL FILMS MUSIC BACK IN FULL FORCE FOR THE MENU SCREENS!!!!!!
 


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