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Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

01:53 PM - June 13, 2012 by RaychelSnr

It all seemed too good to be true.

Now after this week's bombshells that you cannot edit players in connected careers or play any other games in the mode other than your own, it seems like the Madden team is once again forcing you to play your game their way. To me, this is a huge problem. Others of you? Maybe not so much. But let's hear it: Has the 'closed' nature of Connected Careers turned you away and/or cooled your enthusiasm about Madden NFL 13?

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# 501 moneal2001 @ 06/17/12 02:49 PM

@briz i was answering a specific question from mjwr

# 502 barsoffury @ 06/17/12 03:05 PM

I'm not turned away but I am concerned. Mainly because I have no idea how all this is going to play out. Madden is getting a huge facelift and I doubt everything will run smoothly.

# 503 bichettehappens @ 06/17/12 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TreFacTor


	I, (one of the few who have read every page on these and other issues) have rarely seen anyone complain that they cannot edit ratings... that is in and of itself the least common complaint. The more pressing issue is that the offline player will be left with the defaut rosters EA ships on the disc. [...] The fact is that the offline player will be left with the inability to update their rosters, whether this includes or excludes the ability to adjust ratings is irrelevant.

I don't believe that is entirely accurate. It wasn't until just recently that the "players without internet connection won't be able to update their rosters at all" concern really started popping up in the discussions. The initial backlash was rage about not being able to edit numbers, equipment, and names. Not that it really makes a difference, but let's not pretend like most people are only concerned about those without internet or XBOX Live.

Unless I'm misinformed, players of offline CCM will still be able to use Donny's updated rosters so it's only those without internet or XBOX Live accounts who are effected, correct?

# 504 mmorgan1981 @ 06/17/12 03:32 PM

i hate that it takes away the ability to pick more than one school in a franchise this will be missed alot by my group of friends every madden game we have split up each division and played a 3 player franchise and the forth being the computer the way this game is set up that is impossible im all for adding features
but this year it seems like more is being took out than added

# 505 briz1744 @ 06/17/12 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bichettehappens


	I don't believe that is entirely accurate. It wasn't until just recently that the "players without internet connection won't be able to update their rosters at all" concern really started popping up in the discussions. The initial backlash was rage about not being able to edit numbers, equipment, and names. Not that it really makes a difference, but let's not pretend like most people are only concerned about those without internet or XBOX Live. Unless I'm misinformed, players of offline CCM will still be able to use Donny's updated rosters so it's only those without internet or XBOX Live accounts who are effected, correct?

Incorrect anyone who edits rosters uses NCAA imports or fantasy draft is affected

# 506 bichettehappens @ 06/17/12 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by briz1744


	Incorrect anyone who edits rosters uses NCAA imports or fantasy draft is affected

The issue I was discussing was just in regards to editing, and specifically TreFactor's representation of what people have been concerned or complaining about.

# 507 briz1744 @ 06/17/12 04:08 PM

QUOTE=bichettehappens;2043776555]The issue I was discussing was just in regards to editing, and specifically TreFactor's representation of what people have been concerned or complaining about.[/quote]
Anyone who edits is affected whatever they edit or why so no that statement was incorrect, there is a whole sub-forum here devoted entirely to rosters and editing so it is not just those without inernet connection but it is valid to say they would be worst affected and raise that point as they have no voice here

# 508 bichettehappens @ 06/17/12 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by briz1744

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Originally Posted by bichettehappens

The issue I was discussing was just in regards to editing, and specifically TreFactor's representation of what people have been concerned or complaining about.

Anyone who edits is affected whatever they edit or why so no that statement was incorrect, there is a whole sub-forum here devoted entirely to rosters and editing so it is not just those without inernet connection but it is valid to say they would be worst affected and raise that point as they have no voice here

I think we're discussing different things here. Obviously the no editing thing effects anyone who edits or wishes to edit anything, but that post of mine was merely responding to this "The more pressing issue is that the offline player will be left with the defaut rosters EA ships on the disc." and this "The fact is that the offline player will be left with the inability to update their rosters" rather than the subject of editing as a whole.

# 509 briz1744 @ 06/17/12 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bichettehappens


	I think we're discussing different things here. Obviously the no editing thing effects anyone who edits or wishes to edit anything, but that post of mine was merely responding to this "The more pressing issue is that the offline player will be left with the defaut rosters EA ships on the disc." and this "The fact is that the offline player will be left with the inability to update their rosters" rather than the subject of editing as a whole.

Well they are the only ones who can't choose what roster to start a CC so from a roster accuracy point of view they would have the most reason to complain I guess

# 510 ArghMuffinMan @ 06/17/12 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by briz1744


	Quote: franchise is dead ... J. Looman (june2012) IMO CC Is more an online SS mode with the option to be a coach that resembles HC09 (without the ability to change player position that was in that game) Long term and big picture that promises to be a good thing but it lacks 3 major (to many) options that were franchise staples and maybe isn't ready to replace franchise this year

No it is an online SS mode with the option to play online franchise. Or the other way round if you prefer. How could you possibly say that it more resembles HC09 when you couldn't even control any players during an actual game.

It is silly comparisons like this which is why others are getting confused and think that you can only call plays on CC.

# 511 briz1744 @ 06/17/12 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ArghMuffinMan


	No it is an online SS mode with the option to play online franchise. Or the other way round if you prefer. How could you possibly say that it more resembles HC09 when you couldn't even control any players during an actual game. It is silly comparisons like this which is why others are getting confused and think that you can only call plays on CC.

I was in error in not making that clear possibly but its hardly a silly comparison
When with the exception of the method of progression many of the features are clearly brought over from that game so to say it resembles it is something even looman would acknowledge.

# 512 ArghMuffinMan @ 06/17/12 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by briz1744


	I was in error in not making that clear possibly but its hardly a silly comparison When with the exception of the method of progression many of the features are clearly brought over from that game so to say it resembles it is something even looman would acknowledge.

No that is a fair enough point. It just annoys me that some people still think that 'Coach Mode' in CC means you can only call the plays, and the comparisons to HC09 don't help stopping that mistaken perception.

Sorry if I appeared rude.

# 513 TreFacTor @ 06/17/12 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bichettehappens


	I don't believe that is entirely accurate. It wasn't until just recently that the "players without internet connection won't be able to update their rosters at all" concern really started popping up in the discussions. The initial backlash was rage about not being able to edit numbers, equipment, and names. Not that it really makes a difference, but let's not pretend like most people are only concerned about those without internet or XBOX Live. Unless I'm misinformed, players of offline CCM will still be able to use Donny's updated rosters so it's only those without internet or XBOX Live accounts who are effected, correct?

no internet = no updates (not title updates or rosters). Offline players are left without the ability to update their own rosters and use them in CC. Hardly anyone in this thread has mentioned the inability to edit ratings specifically, and the majority don't care about not being able to edit ratings if the improvements work the way they are intended.

# 514 briz1744 @ 06/17/12 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ArghMuffinMan


	No that is a fair enough point. It just annoys me that some people still think that 'Coach Mode' in CC means you can only call the plays, and the comparisons to HC09 don't help stopping that mistaken perception. Sorry if I appeared rude.

I think calling playing as a coach in CC ' coach mode' causes the confusion , in previous Maddens ' coach mode' in the game options means just that I.e. Calling the plays only which I do a lot

# 515 edjames01 @ 06/17/12 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TreFacTor


	no internet = no updates (not title updates or rosters). Offline players are left without the ability to update their own rosters and use them in CC. Hardly anyone in this thread has mentioned the inability to edit ratings specifically, and the majority don't care about not being able to edit ratings if the improvements work the way they are intended.

If someone cannot afford Internet Access, they probably should not be buying a $60 video game. They should also sell their PS3/360.

# 516 themassacre771.1 @ 06/17/12 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by edjames01


	If someone cannot afford Internet Access, they probably should not be buying a $60 video game. They should also sell their PS3/360.

That's ignorant

# 517 LionsFanNJ @ 06/17/12 10:39 PM

Here's a real simple explanation of what i can't do in CC. Every year in all my ports games i make a CAP of myself and add him to my favorite teams and use them in career modes. This year, i can't do that now. That right there is enough to turn me off to this mode this year.

# 518 TreFacTor @ 06/17/12 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by edjames01


	If someone cannot afford Internet Access, they probably should not be buying a $60 video game. They should also sell their PS3/360.

So if someone doesn't have internet they should not own a gaming console.......

Now that's elitist but exactly on par with the directions of the game, so us underlings should step out of your way I guess.

# 519 dylan123 @ 06/17/12 10:54 PM

When it was first announced about connected careers everyone was pumped for it....what a genius idea but by removing the edit function it has taken just as much away from the game.

To me it only makes sense if we can be assured of the following

1) Accurate ratings of all players. As an example in Madden 12 Shane Vereen and Taylor Price had very low speed ratings when in fact they are very fast players (i am sure others have examples) By allowing us to edit this we can ensure we have the most accurate rosters in the middle of a franchise. One of the great things said about connected careers is that there is no need to go back to start over a franchise. Well unless we can guarantee accurate ratings then we would have to start the CC all over again following a global madden roster update

2) when i play madden 12 some of the rookies come into the game with no gloves, wristbands etc. No player except Dallas clark does not wear gloves, why cant we update what equipment our players wear?? Are we sure that they know what Andrew Luck and RG3 will be wearing?...i dont want to wait till the first roster update and then have to restart by CC thereby going against excactly what was said about CC

3) as above with the expanded rosters in Madden 12 i sometimes get duplicated numbers for linebackers and D-line. In fact one time i had a rookie OLB who was No.1 - how can it be gauranteed this wont happen?

All of the above and many more issues were simple resolved by the edit function. We dont expect the game to be able to represent all the thousands of players in the NFL accurately that is why the edit function worked. If you do persist with leaving the edit function out then they must guarantee a perfect roster

please rectify this ridiculous short sited omission

# 520 edjames01 @ 06/17/12 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TreFacTor


	So if someone doesn't have internet they should not own a gaming console.......: Now that's elitist but exactly on par with the directions of the game, so us underlings should step out of your way I guess.

Life isn't fair. But, someones video game problems is very low on the list of possible issues that may be experienced. And it is kind of lame to use the plight of poor people as an argument for editing your madden teams.

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