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Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

01:53 PM - June 13, 2012 by RaychelSnr

It all seemed too good to be true.

Now after this week's bombshells that you cannot edit players in connected careers or play any other games in the mode other than your own, it seems like the Madden team is once again forcing you to play your game their way. To me, this is a huge problem. Others of you? Maybe not so much. But let's hear it: Has the 'closed' nature of Connected Careers turned you away and/or cooled your enthusiasm about Madden NFL 13?

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# 461 AnthonyPhillips @ 06/16/12 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by briz1744


	For those people(on and offline) who continue to say its not 'sim' to edit I point you to. Mario Williams, Dwight Freeney, Ronde Barber, Cameron Wake maybe Charles Woodson, Manny Lawson who have changed position this off-season alone amongst many others including cover boy Peyton Hillis who is reverting to fullback the position he first entered the league as maybe

I like your points in this but Hillis is not going back to fullback. Hes the #2 RB behind Charles and more than likely 3rd Down back.

# 462 briz1744 @ 06/16/12 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyPhillips


	I like your points in this but Hillis is not going back to fullback. Hes the #2 RB behind Charles and more than likely 3rd Down back.

Oh ok seems I made a mess of that post, hope it doesn't weaken my case, he was originally listed at fullback as a rookie on the broncos tho and a scrub at that

# 463 briz1744 @ 06/16/12 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bucky60


	Your point is very valid, since even the Packers still don't know where Woodson is going to be. Really, it's going to boil down to who the best two cover corners are. T. Williams will be one. If one of the younger guys improve enough (Sam Shields, Davon House, etc) then Woodson will probably be moved to safety in the base D and to Nickel in the Sub packages.

Thought Shields looked pretty good when I've seen him and in himself is another case for editing as his original ratings did him injustice (UDFA?)

# 464 roadman @ 06/16/12 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bucky60


	Your point is very valid, since even the Packers still don't know where Woodson is going to be. Really, it's going to boil down to who the best two cover corners are. T. Williams will be one. If one of the younger guys improve enough (Sam Shields, Davon House, etc) then Woodson will probably be moved to safety in the base D and to Nickel in the Sub packages.

This was the article I was referring to for the Charles Woodson theories or rumors.

Woodson himself said it will be the same as last year and McCarthy said there might be a 6 to 8% chance they change things up with Woodson this year.

My point was, he still lined up at slot DB for OTA's.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/80...ll-time-safety

# 465 briz1744 @ 06/16/12 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	This was the article I was referring to for the Charles Woodson theories or rumors. Woodson himself said it will be the same as last year and McCarthy said there might be a 6 to 8% chance they change things up with Woodson this year. My point was, he still lined up at slot DB for OTA's. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/80...ll-time-safety

With Collins gone (sad that) safety looks thin, the best case for position changes I know is Lorenzo Alexander on my skins he's been listed at OG DT DE OLB and now ILB over the last few years and played some TE too , love the guy on special teams too

# 466 LaW97 @ 06/16/12 10:23 PM

For the past 3 years they have been saying how next year's franchise mode will have all the things in it that we want and they will work.

Now we get to this year's game and we dont have franchise mode.....at all?

Of course im not buying.

Im gonna keep playing M12 and maybe even go over to NCAA.

# 467 edjames01 @ 06/17/12 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LaW97


	For the past 3 years they have been saying how next year's franchise mode will have all the things in it that we want and they will work. Now we get to this year's game and we dont have franchise mode.....at all? Of course im not buying. Im gonna keep playing M12 and maybe even go over to NCAA.

Stop playing. CC IS franchise mode.

# 468 Nab_Impervious_XII @ 06/17/12 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LaW97


	Now we get to this year's game and we dont have franchise mode.....at all? .

Wait, what?

I thought Connected Careers was the Madden equivalent to NCAA's "Road to the Heisman" and there would be a separate all-purpose Franchise mode?

# 469 aholbert32 @ 06/17/12 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nab_Impervious_XII


	Wait, what? I thought Connected Careers was the Madden equivalent to NCAA's "Road to the Heisman" and there would be a separate all-purpose Franchise mode?

Cc is a new limited version of franchise. There is no separate mode.

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# 470 HealyMonster @ 06/17/12 03:19 AM

My thoughs:

And let me be clear, ive been more or less a 2k5 fanboy and a madden *****, not on principle, I just havent like what they have put out since I played 2k4, and I believe their decisions have been ridiculous and lazy at some/most points over the past 6-7 years.

On this connected careers thing though...i dont know what the winning answer is.

Ill explain....they are sitting in the meeting room and its basically do you want an uproar or ... do you want an uproar?

Say they implement this CC mode with total editing ability, IMO, this adds a level to the system they are designing that alters the way the game is supposed to be played, which in turn, they need to program/implement things that counteract this. IE--you start a franchise and edit everything and make some people better or worse,etc

When I hear of an online franchise with edited rosters with some people playing as players, and some people playing as rookie created people, I just get the sens that there has to be some general "vanilla" principals to operate off of. You start editing rosters, changing ratings and whatnot and immediately i think of the people that will exploit this. Theres like 5 online franchises that will play sim and close out multiple years with a group of guys. The rest end after 1 year on after a partial season where everyone hates each other and is fighting or with half the league quitting after they lose a few games.

I am sympathetic to those guys, and to the dudes that want to just play offline, but the way the world/gaming/everything is going is online, and twitter and being "connected". Some of us are old school, but ,e personally I have to respect/understand that they arent making the game for me/my generation. I dont even log into facebook regularly. The people they are selling this game to do. So they put all their modes online, and with that comes a bit of a lose-lose situation. I understand their stance as well.

My overall feelings is that the mode feels new and something that was built as opposed to just added for the sake of adding it, and there hasnt been alot of that in the madden franchise in the last 10 years. With the presentation upgrades, and the addition of a full online franchise capability with salary cap, etc, Im willing to subside on some of the other elements. Just as with 2k5, it wasn't perfect, but it did good on what it set out to do, and the issues I was willing to overlook. I havent played madden in over 2 years, I will give this game a shot, and while I would love to edit rosters and all that...I want to play football more than anything, and for the first time in a while it doesnt feel like a half effort.

# 471 TreFacTor @ 06/17/12 04:44 AM

The truth of the matter is that EA has control over the rosters and editing. When your connected (online) in you CC you will receive EA's edited roster (what ever tools they're using, they're still making edits).

The offline (e.g.people without high speed internet) player will not get the roster file. why not give them the "tools" to make their own edits. This is all the customization protesters really want.

# 472 Bigmac612 @ 06/17/12 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RiderGH


	My thoughs: And let me be clear, ive been more or less a 2k5 fanboy and a madden *****, not on principle, I just havent like what they have put out since I played 2k4, and I believe their decisions have been ridiculous and lazy at some/most points over the past 6-7 years. On this connected careers thing though...i dont know what the winning answer is. Ill explain....they are sitting in the meeting room and its basically do you want an uproar or ... do you want an uproar? Say they implement this CC mode with total editing ability, IMO, this adds a level to the system they are designing that alters the way the game is supposed to be played, which in turn, they need to program/implement things that counteract this. IE--you start a franchise and edit everything and make some people better or worse,etc When I hear of an online franchise with edited rosters with some people playing as players, and some people playing as rookie created people, I just get the sens that there has to be some general "vanilla" principals to operate off of. You start editing rosters, changing ratings and whatnot and immediately i think of the people that will exploit this. Theres like 5 online franchises that will play sim and close out multiple years with a group of guys. The rest end after 1 year on after a partial season where everyone hates each other and is fighting or with half the league quitting after they lose a few games. I am sympathetic to those guys, and to the dudes that want to just play offline, but the way the world/gaming/everything is going is online, and twitter and being "connected". Some of us are old school, but ,e personally I have to respect/understand that they arent making the game for me/my generation. I dont even log into facebook regularly. The people they are selling this game to do. So they put all their modes online, and with that comes a bit of a lose-lose situation. I understand their stance as well. My overall feelings is that the mode feels new and something that was built as opposed to just added for the sake of adding it, and there hasnt been alot of that in the madden franchise in the last 10 years. With the presentation upgrades, and the addition of a full online franchise capability with salary cap, etc, Im willing to subside on some of the other elements. Just as with 2k5, it wasn't perfect, but it did good on what it set out to do, and the issues I was willing to overlook. I havent played madden in over 2 years, I will give this game a shot, and while I would love to edit rosters and all that...I want to play football more than anything, and for the first time in a while it doesnt feel like a half effort.

Thing is to me...everyone can play offline....not everyone can play online...the argument that ppl like to use is that online was had the short straw and etc for awhile while offline hasnt but...while its somewhat true..its not entirely true also...

Everybody who plays online also had the benefit of playing in online leagues across the nation and with different ppl around the world...while their features were somewhat limited they still had this pretty cool abiliy...ppl who do not have "xbox live" or Internet connection..do not..so offline is their thing, online users still had the benefit of playing offline too...sooo to be honest Online ppl always had the best of both worlds...

I do not believe in targeting one audience..no matter the reasoning...i think when Looman stated that "Online was the future, and thats where the franchise was heading" he lost the faith of alot of people...It turned alot of ppl off...

ppl have seem to forget that there are alot ppl who dont have online capabilities or internet for that matter..simply because of the economy and how expensive things have gotten with video games in general...

Regardless, like ive said before... what they did was simple...they simply could not figure out a way to make online like offline...sooo they basically took out everything that made offline "different"....

I mean when you think about it logically...if you take out everything,as they did with offline...it was basically everything you couldnt do online for various reasons...soo basically it was a no brainer to just combined the modes..there were nothin holding nothing back then.

Me personally..think it was a bad idea..you didnt really make online better..you just made one mode worser and dumbed down to equal the playing field with the other...some think its a good idea...i dont...if you want to combine modes..fine but atleast give offlne users the option to use same features that they had before...

I believe in trying to make everybody happy...but you dont do it buy TAKING away somebody elses happiness...there is always a better solution...

s***, i think offline ppl would have been happy if "Franchise" Mode could have stayed intact...with a few new features here n there like the news feed and you could have made this CC mode online only, atleast until you figure out how to make everything work...i think alot of ppl would have been satisfied with that..atleast for this year...everybody would have been happy that way, i guess....

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# 473 briz1744 @ 06/17/12 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TreFacTor


	The truth of the matter is that EA has control over the rosters and editing. When your connected (online) in you CC you will receive EA's edited roster (what ever tools they're using, they're still making edits). The offline (e.g.people without high speed internet) player will not get the roster file. why not give them the "tools" to make their own edits. This is all the customization protesters really want.

I believe when you begin CC you start with the latest update after which no editng by you or EA is possible, not sure if you were thinking that the CC roster is updated when Donny releases weekly online updates ?

# 474 raidertiger @ 06/17/12 07:16 AM

Yes. Every Madden I do a fantasy draft for an all-rookie team. I can't do it this year. I have to stick to NFL rosters.

# 475 Cnada @ 06/17/12 08:01 AM

Never done a fantasy draft since Madden 05 with friends that didnt know NFL

Never moved a player position (except from FS to SS if loaded) , edited ratings/equipment/ Number

Seriously people WAKE UP!

So many people being over dramatic, i enjoy this place before features are announced and people are creative.

This years FRANCHISE UPGRADE is massive!!
Im still reading the blog and looking at cool new features i didnt expect to see till next-gen. This is Looman and his team at their BEST!!

Franchises finally play uniquely, you have full control over progression, you can play against all your friends in one easy and fufilled league.

Can we please move on from this 'closed off' idea its ridiculous you have more depth AND Control then before its just not in the PC Mod way you would like the control is in actual Control of a 'Franchise/Superstar'.

Not only do i love every feature this year, i cant believe we got so much! as does and will the majority outside of OS!

Franchise hit a crossroad 'Josh hit the reset button steve jobs style and reinvented the wheel of sports gaming!'

# 476 edjames01 @ 06/17/12 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Cc is a new limited version of franchise. There is no separate mode. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

CC is a new improved version of franchise.

# 477 therealsmallville @ 06/17/12 08:50 AM

Those who are angry that editing didn't make it in (talking ratings only, here), what did you do before last year?

Not trying to start a fight, just simply curious.

# 478 briz1744 @ 06/17/12 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by therealsmallville


	Those who are angry that editing didn't make it in (talking ratings only, here), what did you do before last year? Not trying to start a fight, just simply curious.

Used pre-edited custom rosters before entering franchise (, being able to edit in mode last year was a boon ) however you can't do that with CC either

# 479 briz1744 @ 06/17/12 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by edjames01


	CC is a new improved version of franchise.

Will be when its fully functional IMO

# 480 Cnada @ 06/17/12 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by briz1744


	Will be when its fully functional IMO

No, the feature set IS an upgrade

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