09:02 PM - May 14, 2012 by Steve_OSMadden NFL 13 News Post
09:02 PM - May 14, 2012 by Steve_OSMadden NFL 13 Videos
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# 162
PGaither84 @ 05/15/12 02:08 PM
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Again, the point of a Community Day is to get feedback behind closed doors from respectable members of the community who love football and playing football video games, even if they don't love Madden. I used to love Madden, then 2k stole my heart and I WANT Madden to steal it back, but it hasn't. I don't hate Madden, and I "stil have feeling for the old girl" and that a reason why I still play... but now I am going off topic.
The point is that they are looking for feedback.
At Madden 11 CD, Gus hadn't even finished recording his lines. I was invited along with who ever else wanted to come up and listen to Gus record his Super Bowl lines. I got the hear the Raiders and the rest of the AFC West commentary. That was pretty cool. What that means is that in the CD build of the game, there were tons of place holders and gaps in the commentary. So, yes, there was a lot more work to be done. However, there wasn't going to be some radical change between then and August. In fact, even Madden 12 [12!!!] has Chris still talking to Tom Hammond once in a while. Common.
Sure, I expect the crowd noise to be in the game and other finishing touches, and I hope Chase listens to what we have said in this thread and reads what I wrote on page 7 post #68 where I broke down what I liked and didn't like. Right now, it isn't even close to NBA 2k, and it has a LONG way to go to even get close. Maybe in two years of hard work, but not by August.
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billylee0000 @ 05/15/12 02:30 PM
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# 164
PGaither84 @ 05/15/12 02:52 PM
I have all of the playoff games from last year still on my Laptop. While I can't upload them or share them with you, I started watching the PIT@DEN Wildcard game Sims and Nantz called.
On TV we see replays of nice plays and big plays, but general banter and stories on small plays like a run for two yards on 1st down. I don't EXPECT the little stories that you hear in real life, but I do expect normal commentary to be done well.
Something small that I notice Nantz often calling game that would be nice to hear in Madden is when a man is sent in motion.
Nantz: Hines Ward shifts out of the backfield
[ball snap] [quick pump fake and throw to the middle]
Quick fake, he goes middle looking for Hines and no flag. [Player name] on the coverage.
I'm not bothered by "he" comments too much. Nantz uses "he" a lot in real life too.
At the beginning of the 2nd quarter:
Nantz: 3rd and 12... Tebow... Launches the long ball for Thomas AND THAT'S A CATCH AT THE 30 OF PITTSBURGH, THE PLAY WEHAVE BEEN WAITING FOR FOR WEEKS! He beats Ike Taylor for 51
The last bit about the play we have been waiting for for weeks doesn't need to be in the game, but it would be nice... the fact is that he gets excited by a 51 yard 3rd and 12 conversion at the beginning of the 2nd quarter... not just a TD pass.
Also, even in real life, there is some dead air while Tebow scrambles around buying time... and when he does talk, he doesn't say much until after the catch. So, be fair when we talk about how "stale" it sounds. I think these are examples of little differences and possible improvements.
On TV we see replays of nice plays and big plays, but general banter and stories on small plays like a run for two yards on 1st down. I don't EXPECT the little stories that you hear in real life, but I do expect normal commentary to be done well.
Something small that I notice Nantz often calling game that would be nice to hear in Madden is when a man is sent in motion.
Nantz: Hines Ward shifts out of the backfield
[ball snap] [quick pump fake and throw to the middle]
Quick fake, he goes middle looking for Hines and no flag. [Player name] on the coverage.
I'm not bothered by "he" comments too much. Nantz uses "he" a lot in real life too.
At the beginning of the 2nd quarter:
Nantz: 3rd and 12... Tebow... Launches the long ball for Thomas AND THAT'S A CATCH AT THE 30 OF PITTSBURGH, THE PLAY WEHAVE BEEN WAITING FOR FOR WEEKS! He beats Ike Taylor for 51
The last bit about the play we have been waiting for for weeks doesn't need to be in the game, but it would be nice... the fact is that he gets excited by a 51 yard 3rd and 12 conversion at the beginning of the 2nd quarter... not just a TD pass.
Also, even in real life, there is some dead air while Tebow scrambles around buying time... and when he does talk, he doesn't say much until after the catch. So, be fair when we talk about how "stale" it sounds. I think these are examples of little differences and possible improvements.
Here's an actual game with Nantz and Simms from last season, opening scene and display graphics are almost exactly like what you saw in the pregame video of Madden 13. To see a side by side comparison of Simms and Nantz in the booth in real life and in Madden, pause real life at :14, and Madden 13 video at 24:03. Play the pregame audio at the same time and you actually can't tell which is which unless you know the lines.
Pregame Intro at 23:50
Pregame Intro at 23:50
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I'm waiting for more longer gameplay videos to pass judgement on the commentary but I'm not hearing anything close to the quality heard in other sports games. Are we are hearing a rough version of the finished product?
My fingers are crossed.
My fingers are crossed.
Hope to hear and see the magic on the 4th June. I have a feeling they are holding something back this year...
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Matt Bialosuknia @mbialosuknia
@jpdavis1982 Not sure when that OS/Pasta Padre mix was captured but it's way out of date. Stay tuned for updates.
Wow. I see now that commentary in Madden is the same as swinging in Tiger Woods - the more EA promise, the less they deliver. Bialosuknia's undoubtedly correct when he says the commentary's out of date....compared to other sports titles, it's about 3 years out of date.
Idk how anybody thought that the comentary on that clip was good, it sounded terrible. When he picked the ball up for a touchdown he wasnt excited at all and the sttiching was pretty bad. i see they didnt change anything other than the uniforms.. no new cleats or gloves and the sleaves look the same and the body types still look like **** :/
Did they put Madden 10 or 11 in the system by mistake? This looks no different. players still gliding on catches. I do not think I will be purchasing this again.
The one thing I do like about the vid are the new catch animations. I don't know the reason why but when I play Madden 12 I see a lot of behind-the-receiver catch animations, even if the ball is placed in front of the receiver. I haven't noticed it once in Madden 13 clips.
# 177
TheUndogmatic @ 05/15/12 06:09 PM
I like it. Smooth, fluid, their voices are good, informative, and in-depth. They don't really show all that much emotion, but they show enough, and that's fine. A huge improvement over Madden 12.
Last year people complained that that Gus was over the top in weird spots, Three years ago it was Hammond was too Boring, and now Simms and Nantz go back to being low key. You would think they could find a middle level
I know people have said its an early build, but how do you take what was recorded and add enthusiasm or excitement to it.
Like i said in an earlier post, how do you highlight big plays and none show any emotion.
Now I may be able to live with the dull commentary, if they can do a few things
I know people have said its an early build, but how do you take what was recorded and add enthusiasm or excitement to it.
Like i said in an earlier post, how do you highlight big plays and none show any emotion.
Now I may be able to live with the dull commentary, if they can do a few things
- Get the timing down. The touch back was so delayed as was the Touchdown call
- have it make sense. Last year was not very good to say the least with just inaccurate statements
Very disappointing. The crowd still goes silent when the commentary does. It's still choppy. We're on our 3rd commentary team in 4 games, but if I had to go on this video alone... the changes haven't helped. The announcers can go silent IF THE CROWD STAYS LOUD!!! It doesn't seem like it'd be that hard to program.
...and why in sports video games does a crowd get loud for 4 seconds during a big play , and then go to a murmur? The crowd stays excited for much longer after a big play.
...and why in sports video games does a crowd get loud for 4 seconds during a big play , and then go to a murmur? The crowd stays excited for much longer after a big play.
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Not sure if you saw info posted by JP, but he tweeted the Sound Designer and he said I'm not sure how old the OS/Pasta Padre game play is but it's an old mix. He also said stay tuned for the future.
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