09:02 PM - May 14, 2012 by Steve_OSMadden NFL 13 News Post
09:02 PM - May 14, 2012 by Steve_OSMadden NFL 13 Videos
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Alright..i get this impression that some of you believe this is what the final product will sound like. Obviously there are parts in the video where there is absolutely no crowd audio going on while you only hear on-the-field sfx sounds and commentary which REALLY makes it sound more bland than what it really is. There are other portions of the video where you hear it all including the crowd noise and it sounds pretty good when the clip of the video is not abruptly cut off and changed to a new clip. Some of you guys are overreacting here a bit.. not that i blame you but its WIP..clearly.
Its definitely much better than last year..clearly but at the same time you cant judge a alpha product..no way, that's not fair at all guys.
Where i stand..i am happier with what i heard in this short video than i listened to all last year with Madden 12. Will the commentary be on par with say.. NBA2k12 or MLB The Show 12? Well to be fair..they are completely different sports and those other games have had a foundation to build upon in the audio dept.
Honestly i couldn't stand Gus last year..he was the sole reason why Madden's audio last year was the worst i've heard in many years..seriously Gus was totally not good for the game. These two new guys they got in the commentary are two that i can see really get the job done in Madden..
I am not disappointed..nor was i thrown off my chair in excitement..but i am a fair guy and i will give them the benefit if doubt that this rough draft we heard here was simply that..a rough draft but i am liking what i hear so far..
Suggestions:
I would like to hear more commentary as the play "unfolds" but continuously non-stop because right now as it stands..its too subtle...the commentary needs to be flowing during the entire play..not just in bits and pieces, the key word here again is "flow".. Example..if i am controlling the running back ..i'd like to hear the commentary acknowledge "instantly" or in real time when i broke a tackle or stiff arm the defender at the 15 yard line.. then i would like to hear the commentary say "he's at the 10, he's at the 5, he jukes and scores a TOUCHDOWN" ...that is the kind of commentary that should be done in a football game in this day and age.
Not sure if its in there... but when my team scores a TD..and a few other of my players comes to celebrate in the end zone ..i want to hear the player voices celebrating "Good Run" "yeah baby!" "that's how its done baby!",etc,etc ..stuff like that before going to the sideline cutscenes for more celebrations on the sideline.
I am glad to see the cadences in there..it was one of my suggestions a while ago.. in early April..so if my suggestion was heard..awesome but regardless..i am soooooo happy its in there..it really is a little touch that makes a big difference for the audio dept.
Its definitely much better than last year..clearly but at the same time you cant judge a alpha product..no way, that's not fair at all guys.
Where i stand..i am happier with what i heard in this short video than i listened to all last year with Madden 12. Will the commentary be on par with say.. NBA2k12 or MLB The Show 12? Well to be fair..they are completely different sports and those other games have had a foundation to build upon in the audio dept.
Honestly i couldn't stand Gus last year..he was the sole reason why Madden's audio last year was the worst i've heard in many years..seriously Gus was totally not good for the game. These two new guys they got in the commentary are two that i can see really get the job done in Madden..
I am not disappointed..nor was i thrown off my chair in excitement..but i am a fair guy and i will give them the benefit if doubt that this rough draft we heard here was simply that..a rough draft but i am liking what i hear so far..
Suggestions:
I would like to hear more commentary as the play "unfolds" but continuously non-stop because right now as it stands..its too subtle...the commentary needs to be flowing during the entire play..not just in bits and pieces, the key word here again is "flow".. Example..if i am controlling the running back ..i'd like to hear the commentary acknowledge "instantly" or in real time when i broke a tackle or stiff arm the defender at the 15 yard line.. then i would like to hear the commentary say "he's at the 10, he's at the 5, he jukes and scores a TOUCHDOWN" ...that is the kind of commentary that should be done in a football game in this day and age.
Not sure if its in there... but when my team scores a TD..and a few other of my players comes to celebrate in the end zone ..i want to hear the player voices celebrating "Good Run" "yeah baby!" "that's how its done baby!",etc,etc ..stuff like that before going to the sideline cutscenes for more celebrations on the sideline.
I am glad to see the cadences in there..it was one of my suggestions a while ago.. in early April..so if my suggestion was heard..awesome but regardless..i am soooooo happy its in there..it really is a little touch that makes a big difference for the audio dept.
sounded terrible. i wonder if that touchdown will change the way the team manages the game from here on out X2, the interception and touchdown calls were not enthusiastic enough
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davidsaurus @ 05/15/12 08:12 AM
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DeuceDouglas @ 05/15/12 09:12 AM
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Tyrant8RDFL @ 05/15/12 09:19 AM
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Also what your stating is a guess and is just speculation. I have ever yet to see a video show casing one thing , and we receive or see another.
Have you?
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reddogmaddogbul @ 05/15/12 09:28 AM
Sounds like the audio engineers for madden blamed Chris and Gus for there poor programing.Now I wonder what excuse they have for this years mishaps.We finally know why you guys didnt release commentary in m12 demo" IT SUCKED". Im willing to bet it's safe to say commentary want be in this years demo as well.
My intial impressions for commentary LAME
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My intial impressions for commentary LAME
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Tyrant8RDFL @ 05/15/12 09:33 AM
Now I will comment on the commentary. It has been said countless tims in here. It is very bland and extremely robotic sounding.
A few have said it perfectlyt here. Its not who they use. It is how they are implented.
They had Gus Johnson and in real life he is very exciting to listen to , but in madden he was not good. Lets be honest EA has to put a better effort into this department.
There is not enough creativity or depth with the commentators. I don't feel like they are alive. They tend to flow their words at a slow pace. maybe if they speed it up some it can improve. I dont know but from the video I saw the commentary was weak at best.
A few have said it perfectlyt here. Its not who they use. It is how they are implented.
They had Gus Johnson and in real life he is very exciting to listen to , but in madden he was not good. Lets be honest EA has to put a better effort into this department.
There is not enough creativity or depth with the commentators. I don't feel like they are alive. They tend to flow their words at a slow pace. maybe if they speed it up some it can improve. I dont know but from the video I saw the commentary was weak at best.
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DeuceDouglas @ 05/15/12 09:38 AM
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DocHolliday @ 05/15/12 09:41 AM
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Sorry to say Kids, but the game is going to look pretty close to that.
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spankdatazz22 @ 05/15/12 09:42 AM
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I've never developed a game in my life so I don't know what goes into developing a game. But from what I've seen from other companies it seems it doesn't make sense to show your game if it's in a state where it can be looked at negatively. There wasn't much demand for Tiburon to hype the game in the manner they're hyping it. I get the view that they feel the commentary is demonstrably better than what they've done in the past so they're wanting to display it. And it is better. But what's being shown doesn't seem to make the commentary out to be noticeably better than what's in other sports games, let alone what's being done by the top sports games. Perhaps when the game releases that level of commentary will be there. But doesn't seem to make sense hyping it now and expecting people to speculate that there's going to be some monumental improvement in a few months.
I'd agree with you re Gus last year. I don't like him much in real life. But Tiburon's gone through I don't know how many sets of announcers over the years, it can't be that they're all bad or that it's consistently a technology issue. We've been talking about this issue with Madden for the better part of a decade now, if not longer. I would disagree with you re comparing Madden's audio to other games. When you mention NBA2K12 people forget they just added the 3-man team this past year - the commentary was already very well done and they made it better. But it wasn't but 3-4yrs ago commentary in NBA2K was being chastised. Same with MLB2K, which were the first to overhaul/implement a 3-man booth. It's taken for granted because it's expected from them. But it's not like they started from some base that Madden hasn't had the same opportunity to start from.
Again I don't think people are trying to be overly harsh towards Tiburon. But they seem to fall into the pattern they fall into every year, where they're patting themselves on the back for accomplishing something they're supposed to do. As Chris Rock famously said in a comedy routine...
I'll wait to hear from Chase on this before I say the commentary was bland and that is what will be in the final product.
If Chase says we can fine tune the rough edges till the game goes gold, fine. If not, oh, oh.
Heck, everyone that has been here awhile knows they can tweak after June 4th.
If Chase says we can fine tune the rough edges till the game goes gold, fine. If not, oh, oh.
Heck, everyone that has been here awhile knows they can tweak after June 4th.
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at23steelers @ 05/15/12 09:50 AM
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reddogmaddogbul @ 05/15/12 09:54 AM
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I've never developed a game in my life so I don't know what goes into developing a game. But from what I've seen from other companies it seems it doesn't make sense to show your game if it's in a state where it can be looked at negatively. There wasn't much demand for Tiburon to hype the game in the manner they're hyping it. I get the view that they feel the commentary is demonstrably better than what they've done in the past so they're wanting to display it. And it is better. But what's being shown doesn't seem to make the commentary out to be noticeably better than what's in other sports games, let alone what's being done by the top sports games. Perhaps when the game releases that level of commentary will be there. But doesn't seem to make sense hyping it now and expecting people to speculate that there's going to be some monumental improvement in a few months.
I'd agree with you re Gus last year. I don't like him much in real life. But Tiburon's gone through I don't know how many sets of announcers over the years, it can't be that they're all bad or that it's consistently a technology issue. We've been talking about this issue with Madden for the better part of a decade now, if not longer. I would disagree with you re comparing Madden's audio to other games. When you mention NBA2K12 people forget they just added the 3-man team this past year - the commentary was already very well done and they made it better. But it wasn't but 3-4yrs ago commentary in NBA2K was being chastised. Same with MLB2K, which were the first to overhaul/implement a 3-man booth. It's taken for granted because it's expected from them. But it's not like they started from some base that Madden hasn't had the same opportunity to start from.
Again I don't think people are trying to be overly harsh towards Tiburon. But they seem to fall into the pattern they fall into every year, where they're patting themselves on the back for accomplishing something they're supposed to do. As Chris Rock famously said in a comedy routine...
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Well said and nicely put my man.
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Tyrant8RDFL @ 05/15/12 10:00 AM
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Now is EA asked for our opinion on this video. Why do you feel the need to quote me and make such a statement?
Why not just make the statement to all the other members who feel the same?
One other thing to point out. They implemented video with big play moments. Which you would think is the right scenario to showcase some exciting commentary. Guess what it FAILED.
Now you may need 82 hours of commentary to see the failer, but I don't. They showed me big plays with commentary and it was bad. Why would I need 82 hours for?
Anyway history has proven what we see in MAY JUNE or JULY is what we will get come AUGUST.
have you ever see any video of Madden this gen that looked or sounded one way in May , and then change come August?
I will kindly answer that for you
"No"
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Tyrant8RDFL @ 05/15/12 10:08 AM
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Wasup Roadman hope all is good.
I have a question for you. Please indicate what they have tweaked in the past that improved the game? In regards to something shown in May or June then corrected nicely come release date?
Thanks
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So, what to they do from E3 to it goes gold? Take vacations till it goes gold and then come back for feedback?
On Twitter, I've read where they tuned and squashed bugs up to E3.
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