Madden NFL 13 Video - Gameplay With Jim Nantz and Phil Simms In-Game Commentary

[ABR173rd]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

I see I used a poor analogy. lol Anyway, I think people should wait til at least E3. Funny things is, even if June 4th is BIG and the game looks much improved at E3, some people, including myself will still say, can't be sure til August. However, if E3 is underwhelming, those same people, including me, will think August will be more of the same. lol That's the just the way things are, it is what is.

Pretty much where I'm at. I don't expect much from EA at this point and I don't feel like they've built up enough trust to warrant giving them the benefit of the doubt. June 4th seems to be the target indicator here, and I can't wait to jump on this forum after the playbooks

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by ABR173rd

Pretty much where I'm at. I don't expect much from EA at this point and I don't feel like they've built up enough trust to warrant giving them the benefit of the doubt. June 4th seems to be the target indicator here, and I can't wait to jump on this forum after the playbooks

I agree, but in all fairness while it is still EA, it's also a almost completely new development team and we've already seen that they have made noticeable changes(scorebug) since those videos were released.

[PGaither84]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

That isn't my position, but on the flip side, are you saying that nothing is tuned between now and the time the game goes gold?

To me, there is a HUGE difference between tuning and major changes.

Again, the point of a Community Day is to get feedback behind closed doors from respectable members of the community who love football and playing football video games, even if they don't love Madden. I used to love Madden, then 2k stole my heart and I WANT Madden to steal it back, but it hasn't. I don't hate Madden, and I "stil have feeling for the old girl" and that a reason why I still play... but now I am going off topic.

The point is that they are looking for feedback.

At Madden 11 CD, Gus hadn't even finished recording his lines. I was invited along with who ever else wanted to come up and listen to Gus record his Super Bowl lines. I got the hear the Raiders and the rest of the AFC West commentary. That was pretty cool. What that means is that in the CD build of the game, there were tons of place holders and gaps in the commentary. So, yes, there was a lot more work to be done. However, there wasn't going to be some radical change between then and August. In fact, even Madden 12 [12!!!] has Chris still talking to Tom Hammond once in a while. Common.

Sure, I expect the crowd noise to be in the game and other finishing touches, and I hope Chase listens to what we have said in this thread and reads what I wrote on page 7 post #68 where I broke down what I liked and didn't like. Right now, it isn't even close to NBA 2k, and it has a LONG way to go to even get close. Maybe in two years of hard work, but not by August.

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

I agree, but in all fairness while it is still EA, it's also a almost completely new development team and we've already seen that they have made noticeable changes(scorebug) since those videos were released.

I generally agree with this premise but it can over emphasis the dev team as the only past issue.

I liken it to (about to throw up in my mouth a lil) the 90's Dallas Cowboys with Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones. Johnson definitely came in and changed personnel making the Cowboys a winning organization again but Jones was still around mucking some things up.

Likewise for Madden, I feel good about Cam Weber and the personnel around assembled but there may still be an EA Jerry Jones persona or mindset around to muck things up. lol

Time will tell.

[billylee0000]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

I generally agree with this premise but it can over emphasis the dev team as the only past issue. I liken it to (about to throw up in my mouth a lil) the 90's Dallas Cowboys with Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones. Johnson definitely came in and changed personnel making the Cowboys a winning organization again but Jones was still around mucking some things up. Likewise for Madden, I feel good about Cam Weber and the personnel around assembled but there may still be an EA Jerry Jones persona or mindset around to muck things up. lol Time will tell.

I actually think that's just it. The dev team may be sticking to what they have because someone is pushing them towards this direction. That's why everything I've seen so far looks like an upgraded version of Madden12. If they were allowed to explore different options say in the graphics engine and physics engine, things may be different.

[treq21]

It looks just like more of the same. And thats not good. I wont be buying this game at release anyway, so we will see. But I am not impressed by this video at all.

[PGaither84]

I have all of the playoff games from last year still on my Laptop. While I can't upload them or share them with you, I started watching the PIT@DEN Wildcard game Sims and Nantz called.

On TV we see replays of nice plays and big plays, but general banter and stories on small plays like a run for two yards on 1st down. I don't EXPECT the little stories that you hear in real life, but I do expect normal commentary to be done well.

Something small that I notice Nantz often calling game that would be nice to hear in Madden is when a man is sent in motion.

Nantz: Hines Ward shifts out of the backfield
[ball snap] [quick pump fake and throw to the middle]
Quick fake, he goes middle looking for Hines and no flag. [Player name] on the coverage.

I'm not bothered by "he" comments too much. Nantz uses "he" a lot in real life too.

At the beginning of the 2nd quarter:

Nantz: 3rd and 12... Tebow... Launches the long ball for Thomas AND THAT'S A CATCH AT THE 30 OF PITTSBURGH, THE PLAY WEHAVE BEEN WAITING FOR FOR WEEKS! He beats Ike Taylor for 51

The last bit about the play we have been waiting for for weeks doesn't need to be in the game, but it would be nice... the fact is that he gets excited by a 51 yard 3rd and 12 conversion at the beginning of the 2nd quarter... not just a TD pass.

Also, even in real life, there is some dead air while Tebow scrambles around buying time... and when he does talk, he doesn't say much until after the catch. So, be fair when we talk about how "stale" it sounds. I think these are examples of little differences and possible improvements.

[jpdavis82]

Here's an actual game with Nantz and Simms from last season, opening scene and display graphics are almost exactly like what you saw in the pregame video of Madden 13. To see a side by side comparison of Simms and Nantz in the booth in real life and in Madden, pause real life at :14, and Madden 13 video at 24:03. Play the pregame audio at the same time and you actually can't tell which is which unless you know the lines.



Pregame Intro at 23:50