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Madden NFL 13 Video - Gameplay With Jim Nantz and Phil Simms In-Game Commentary

  08:02 PM - May 14, 2012 by Steve_OS


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Member Comments
# 321 ChaseB @ 05/20/12 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SalutationsNJ
Well, since you're in here Chase -- bring back the radio guy -- I loved hearing him while surfing thru my dynasty looking at stats or something.
Tony Bruno?
 
# 322 roadman @ 05/20/12 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SalutationsNJ
Well, since you're in here Chase -- bring back the radio guy -- I loved hearing him while surfing thru my dynasty looking at stats or something.
Three words, no thank you.

Repetitive and nauseating voice.

I really don't think some of these folks have heard the recent podcast, seems like they are still going off the first page link in here.
 
# 323 jpdavis82 @ 05/20/12 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by roadman
Three words, no thank you.

Repetitive and nauseating voice.

I really don't think some of these folks have heard the recent podcast, seems like they are still going off the first page link in here.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking too, I mean I just played a game of Madden 12 to listen to the commentary again and just going by these 4 in game samples, there is no comparison with it and Madden 12. One sounds close to what you hear on Sunday on CBS, the other sounds choppy as can be with TONS of dead air.
 
# 324 ChaseB @ 05/20/12 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SweetBabyJebus
could it have been more fleshed out? sure....but i loveed when he and the callers mentioned my team and specific things happening with my team...
I was just asking if that's what Salutations was talking about since he didn't specify.
 
# 325 DeuceDouglas @ 05/20/12 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by roadman
Three words, no thank you.

Repetitive and nauseating voice.

I really don't think some of these folks have heard the recent podcast, seems like they are still going off the first page link in here.
This. This. This. This. This.

I don't need to hear Teyo Johnson still calling into the Tony Bruno show in 2020 after he's already been out of the league for 10+ years.
 
# 326 at23steelers @ 05/20/12 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas
This. This. This. This. This.

I don't need to hear Teyo Johnson still calling into the Tony Bruno show in 2020 after he's already been out of the league for 10+ years.
I think the person means that it had great potential if they expanded on it. I agree, I thought it was clever and made the game more fun to listen to outside of gaming. No one is denying it had some problems with it, but if it was expanded on, could've been something that added to the franchise immersion.
 
# 327 DeuceDouglas @ 05/20/12 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by at23steelers
I think the person means that it had great potential if they expanded on it. I agree, I thought it was clever and made the game more fun to listen to outside of gaming. No one is denying it had some problems with it, but if it was expanded on, could've been something that added to the franchise immersion.
It did have potential, I can't deny that. The only way I think stuff like that works is if you take specificities out of it though. It could be awesome if you just have like a huge array of different fans calling in based on who's doing well and poor in your season. It would literally have to be a TON though just so it didn't get repetitive.

The same goes for the commentary. They need to shy away from mentioning specific years and events from the past when talking about guys because once you get a few years into a franchise those comments don't ever apply anymore.
 
# 328 KBLover @ 05/20/12 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas
It did have potential, I can't deny that. The only way I think stuff like that works is if you take specificities out of it though. It could be awesome if you just have like a huge array of different fans calling in based on who's doing well and poor in your season. It would literally have to be a TON though just so it didn't get repetitive.
Makes me wonder why it's not done that way.

Have an xml or something that listed out all the fans, etc, and give them lines based on the record of the team, some team stats, if there's any players near milestones, any low morale or negative roles, maybe if a guy lost DPP a lot last game, etc.

All this data is in the game, just needs to be tapped into and used
 
# 329 jmurphy31 @ 05/20/12 09:10 PM
Ive read through the this thread again even when I posted before and as much as the first video sounded poorly, the podcast did sound a little better. But we need to see video with the commentary before we can make positive or negative remarks. will it be perfect the first year, "no" as others have said. However, the thing EA needs to get right in year one is making sure the commentary makes sense. I dont want to hear about a WR and how well he threw the ball or how the safety went for the pick on a kick return.

If you want to complain about the original commentary video that is fine, but it is said to be an earlier build. But we also shouldn't praise the podcast without seeing a video.
 
# 330 roadman @ 05/20/12 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jmurphy31
Ive read through the this thread again even when I posted before and as much as the first video sounded poorly, the podcast did sound a little better. But we need to see video with the commentary before we can make positive or negative remarks. will it be perfect the first year, "no" as others have said. However, the thing EA needs to get right in year one is making sure the commentary makes sense. I dont want to hear about a WR and how well he threw the ball or how the safety went for the pick on a kick return.

If you want to complain about the original commentary video that is fine, but it is said to be an earlier build. But we also shouldn't praise the podcast without seeing a video.
That is fine and dandy, and I agree. We have till June 4th to wait for that, in between, I think one could have an opinion between the old mix and the podcast.
 
# 331 jmurphy31 @ 05/20/12 09:40 PM
Anyone can have an opinion, I am not saying people cant. Even I said the podcast sounds better, but until you can see and hear the commentary together you cant make a solid analysis. What if the commentary is off by 3-5 seconds or its wrong. Also, maybe the podcast was jsut recorded lines before they were even implemented into the game.

Personally, I think the commentary will be better than last year , but not anything special in year one.

I really hope they stick with this new technology and announcing teams for more than two years. it seems like every two years they are switching one of the two and starting back from the beginning.
 
# 332 DeuceDouglas @ 05/20/12 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jmurphy31
Anyone can have an opinion, I am not saying people cant. Even I said the podcast sounds better, but until you can see and hear the commentary together you cant make a solid analysis. What if the commentary is off by 3-5 seconds or its wrong. Also, maybe the podcast was jsut recorded lines before they were even implemented into the game.

Personally, I think the commentary will be better than last year , but not anything special in year one.

I really hope they stick with this new technology and announcing teams for more than two years. it seems like every two years they are switching one of the two and starting back from the beginning.
I think this is where most people defending it are coming from. At this point, we've heard and seen so little that it's absolutely impossible to judge anything. In my opinion, what we've heard so far sounds much better than what we had last year and isn't anywhere near enough to deem the commentary as a full-on failure yet.

Like with everything else it seems, June 4th is the day. After that we should be able to get plenty of more valid impressions.
 
# 333 ryan36 @ 05/21/12 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal
Wait a minute now, I don't intend to offer any excuses for Madden not being better but we shouldn't compare slower paced baseball commentary to play by play in football, imo.

I think the pace of baseball lends better to flowing commentary than more action filled sports like soccer, basketball, football, etc. That's like comparing the commentary in golf to football, when we know full well it's apples and oranges.

That said, when just showcasing the stitch tech for M13, that commentary had a nice flow but it's how it sounded during the actual game play, that was lacking. I think we all need to see how effective this new tech is at E3 before we critique the inevitable flaws it will have.
As someone who has broadcast baseball, football, and basketball professionally, basketball is the hardest to fit a color commentator into. More than 3 seconds of analysis and the play by play guy will miss a play. The 2k series does it perfectly nearly.

According to (I think it was a WSJ article) the ball is in play in a football game for 11 to 12 minutes of a 60 minute game. I've seen tv broadcasts where the color guy talks more than the play by play guy. The challenge in a radio broadcast is telling the listener what 22 guys are doing and all the potential angles you may want to describe. On tv, not so much. Football has a play clock, but in an NFL broadcast there is time for a replay and a telestrator and color commentary. The challenge of putting it into a video game is that a theme will go on for an entire drive / game. "That's why the Seahawks have big corners...to make plays like that." then 3 plays later, "again just look at the size of Browner. He's able to jump with Fitzgerald. Pete Carroll knew what he was up against in the NFC West and he knew he needed a big secondary." so on and so forth.

In baseball there is more time for a story, but the conversational element- the back and forth , is similar in baseball and football. They're more analogous than you think.
 
# 334 ChaseB @ 05/21/12 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ryan36
According to (I think it was a WSJ article) the ball is in play in a football game for 11 to 12 minutes of a 60 minute game. I've seen tv broadcasts where the color guy talks more than the play by play guy. The challenge in a radio broadcast is telling the listener what 22 guys are doing and all the potential angles you may want to describe. On tv, not so much. Football has a play clock, but in an NFL broadcast there is time for a replay and a telestrator and color commentary. The challenge of putting it into a video game is that a theme will go on for an entire drive / game. "That's why the Seahawks have big corners...to make plays like that." then 3 plays later, "again just look at the size of Browner. He's able to jump with Fitzgerald. Pete Carroll knew what he was up against in the NFC West and he knew he needed a big secondary." so on and so forth.

In baseball there is more time for a story, but the conversational element- the back and forth , is similar in baseball and football. They're more analogous than you think.
Glad to know someone else has this viewpoint. While the ball is in play they're obviously very different, but the pacing is very close.
 
# 335 JerzeyReign @ 05/21/12 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by roadman
Three words, no thank you.

Repetitive and nauseating voice.
I really thought it would go unnoticed but here's why I would like to see it again:

Repetitive ESPN radio that tells me the same real life story for a month or a repetitive Tony Bruno who talks about my franchise?

Hmmm...
 
# 336 roadman @ 05/21/12 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SalutationsNJ
I really thought it would go unnoticed but here's why I would like to see it again:

Repetitive ESPN radio that tells me the same real life story for a month or a repetitive Tony Bruno who talks about my franchise?

Hmmm...
With the same call-in questions?

And like some other people said, maybe the Tony show could have been improved with more time, but that is something we'll never know.

Sorry, just never liked Tony Bruno's addition to the game. Different strokes.........
 
# 337 SkillzKillz719 @ 05/24/12 05:23 PM
Lol. Thats all I gotta say.
 
# 338 jpdavis82 @ 05/24/12 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by balcobomber25
The commentary just sounds odd, Jim Nantz has no emotion whatsoever when the teams score. They went from Gus Johnson screaming at times and silent at others to Jim Nantz sounding monotone on every score. Phil Simms sounds solid and is a major upgrade over Collinsworth but we havent seen a good play by play guy in a Madden game since Al Michaels.
Did you listen to the audio in the podcast from last week? It sounds better than this video clip. The video clip is from a older build.
 
# 339 jpdavis82 @ 05/24/12 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetpac
lol "old build" it sounds the same to me as well.. bland and emotionless
I haven't seen many on here who would agree. Most people have said they thought it was better in the newer clips from the podcast. Jim Nantz is not Gus Johnson, he doesn't get as excited as him, heck no other announcer does that I know of. The newer clips sound more balanced and more like Nantz does in real life, they don't have a clip of him calling a touchdown in the new clips from the podcast either. He does show emotion in the first clip on the 1st down call.

46:58 Antonio Brown 1st Down (just an example of Nantz' balanced approach)


20:23 Lesean McCoy picks up 1st down
 
# 340 ryan36 @ 05/24/12 08:26 PM
It's better but not great.
 


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