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# 301 Bobhead @ 01/02/12 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by spit_bubble


So dev teams put out fires now?

I swear man, some of the logic on these boards...

It's not a question of respect or disrespect, it's a question of information. Again, this is free feedback they are getting here, information that fifteen years ago they could only dream about getting, information that sheds invaluable light on the work they are doing...

Bowing down to them as if they are doing us a favor makes as much sense as being offended by something anonymous user #28543 has to say. Put on your big boy pants we're all equals here.
I don't bow down to anyone, and I have as much pride and stubbornness as anyone else here. Bowing down isn't what I was talking about, and it's not what anyone expects. Respect and "bowing down" aren't the same thing.

But let me interject for a minute to respond to this "free feedback" argument you keep on making. Consider this. Making an account here is free, and there are no minimum posting activity requirements or anything. Posting here doesn't really aid their "feedback quest" very much, so it's not at all logical to assume they are here for their own benefit. If all an SCEA developer wanted was free feedback, Russell or anyone else could easily make a user account here, name it GermanTaco456 and simply act like they are a normal random user, and simply ask random questions, or even just read random topics.

I'm not saying you (plural... this post isn't exclusively directed towards the quoted post above) should sign your life away to Russell out of gratitude, I'm just saying you should call a duck what it is. They ARE doing us a favor by participating and answering questions, I'm merely suggesting that we acknowledge it.
 
# 302 Knight165 @ 01/02/12 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by spit_bubble


So dev teams put out fires now?

I swear man, some of the logic on these boards...

It's not a question of respect or disrespect, it's a question of information. Again, this is free feedback they are getting here, information that fifteen years ago they could only dream about getting, information that sheds invaluable light on the work they are doing...

Bowing down to them as if they are doing us a favor makes as much sense as being offended by something anonymous user #28543 has to say. Put on your big boy pants we're all equals here.

I think the point flew so far over your head it would be fruitless to try and explain.
This post borders on absurdity.
You have quite a warped view of how things work....how they are and how quickly they can be.
I know there are some on here that are trying pretty hard to ruin a good thing O.S. has going on with SCEA. That's a shame, but it's becoming obvious.
They do say "all good things......"
I'm thinking that pretty soon, we'll be back to just discussing this game amongst ourselves, just like the good old days.
That should be AWESOME!


(and if you think it's about kissin' a$$.....rather than just toning it down to just a common courtesy level.....you're proving my point on it being over your head.)

M.K.
Knight165
 
# 303 EnigmaNemesis @ 01/02/12 10:02 PM
That's it. I am probably gonna rename myself on here to GermanTaco456.

 
# 304 Jgainsey @ 01/02/12 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by spit_bubble


So dev teams put out fires now?

I swear man, some of the logic on these boards...

It's not a question of respect or disrespect, it's a question of information. Again, this is free feedback they are getting here, information that fifteen years ago they could only dream about getting, information that sheds invaluable light on the work they are doing...

Bowing down to them as if they are doing us a favor makes as much sense as being offended by something anonymous user #28543 has to say. Put on your big boy pants we're all equals here.
Except we aren't all equals here.

The developers have the extremely unique ability to offer insight, previews, and a wealth of other information that most people here covet.

Sure, they can gather useful information from us as well, but they don't necessarily have to give us anything in return for that particular resource. We'd be here discussing the game in detail, with or without them.

Take off your douchebag pants, and try to realize what is really going on here. They're trying to keep a open and constructive line of communication open with the fans of their product.

What do you do for a living spit_bubble? If you had a job that afforded you this level of communication with your customer base, wouldn't you want to be treated with a reasonable amount of respect? Especially, if you had been nothing but respectful, forthcoming, and even generous to those you were communicating with.. there's your logic.
 
# 305 thaSLAB @ 01/02/12 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by EnigmaNemesis
That's it. I am probably gonna rename myself on here to GermanTaco456.

Not if I beat you to it! LOL!


Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
 
# 306 dalger21 @ 01/02/12 11:16 PM
boy, did this thread ever go bad in a hurry..wow
 
# 307 Blzer @ 01/02/12 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by spit_bubble
It's not a question of respect or disrespect, it's a question of information. Again, this is free feedback they are getting here, information that fifteen years ago they could only dream about getting, information that sheds invaluable light on the work they are doing...
I'm really neither here nor there, because I often see posts from time to time that seem to give blind praise where it simply doesn't make sense.

However...

In the end, I'd rather have these guys on the boards than not. They are not just kind developers, they are kind people. They are my friends much like a lot of users here are, and like I would prefer to not see certain members here leave (I lost a lot of good friends here), I'd rather not see the developers leave either. They come on here for no extra cash on their paycheck, and if they feel these message boards are not worth their time, they will leave.

That's how it is for all of us, but they really have one direct focus here.

I see what you're saying (again, neither here nor there), but it's the end result that matters the most IMO.
 
# 308 EnigmaNemesis @ 01/03/12 12:06 AM
The term "blind praise" always seemed to make me chuckle.

Has no solid meaning really. And almost a term adopted by those looking to have negative connotations or pessimistic spin.

(Not saying you Blzer, but seeing a lot who have to go out of their way to have condescending or "calling out" in a negative way, use such term to slam people who try and be optimistic.)

I would love to see examples of such a term. Really!

Because personally, "blind praise" sounds much easier on the eyes, whatever it is, than deliberate ******* postings.

Why "optimism" bothers people so much, where they feel the need to be the barons of negativity because of such posts is baffling to say the least.
 
# 309 metal134 @ 01/03/12 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JerseySuave4
unfortunately thats what this site has become. You really see so much complaining from people who demand perfection. Not just with this game but other games as well, nothing is ever good enough for so many people on here (not everybody).
Well, it's not so much that people complain, it's the things they complain about. Like, in this instance, the score overlay. I remember a few years back people going on and on about not having eye black. Friggin' eye black.
 
# 310 nomo17k @ 01/03/12 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by khronikos
When that happens their sales will start to dwindle because they will have no clue what to fix (jk) besides what is on their lists from the public sessions they carry on for the mentally depleted. And that isn't much that I care about. Simple fact is if this team stops responding so do I just as I have done with every other sports franchise that went to the gutter.
Not directly responding to this particular quote but...

The bottom line is you are only one out of what, a couple hundred thousands of customers (don't remember how many copies usually get sold) who pay $60 to play this game. So the fact that you don't like the game and therefore don't purchase doesn't really hurt devs that much in general.

The sales will dwindle for the devs by not listening to you, only if your voice is representative of the vast majority of those who buy the game and brings a profit to the company.

And OS members likely are not representative of those who actually bring profits to the devs... That's why most other devs don't bother interacting with us, because they can still make enough money.

The devs can so easily choose to only satisfy the needs of the vast majority of gamers who don't give a **** about the stadium colors, all the small accessories, manage-mode, hiding all visual aids, whether the staidum roof closes, rain outs, whether the glove closes, being served chicken dinner, and so on and so on...

All those sports games that OS members complain about... They keep going strong sales wise regardless of how OS members think about them...

By losing the channel to directly interact with the devs, who would be on the losing side??

It will be us... We have a unique venue to interact with the devs who have ability and resource to create the game we actually want to pay $60 for... and we can have a bit of influence in the direction the game will be going in future... If that's not an opportunity to be thankful for then I don't know what is...

Why do the SCEA devs bother to value some of the feedback from here? Maybe their goal is in line with hardcore gamers here... we want the ultimate baseball game, they want to make one, and maybe they believe that will lead to a game that also appeals to their (real) target audience, who brings profits to SCEA... We don't know...

But the bottom line is, the devs don't necessarily need to value us, who constitutes such a tiny customer base. They can just shift their focus to keep their business going...

And what really prevents you to be just nice for little things, just to maintain a good rapport?? Okay, SCEA probably doesn't save lives in fires, that's not their job after all, that might have been too extreme an example for you.... But say when you invite your acquaintances to your chicken dinner party, don't you say "thanks for coming" or something to that effect anyways, even just for being courteous and socially adequate?

Or you say, "hey I cooked you dinner and invited you, I feel popular, so we are all equals here. (Do something and invite me next time, so we keep things equal on both sides, okay??)" Now that's weird and I don't want to live in that sort of neighborhood...
 
# 311 ryan36 @ 01/03/12 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by EnigmaNemesis
That's it. I am probably gonna rename myself on here to GermanTaco456.

Not if I do it first

Guys this needs to STOP being a referendum on dev interaction.

They do NOT get paid to interact with us on OS.

They CAN see anything we discuss without logging in and never talk to us again.

This (as has happened in other forums) is the problem. Having the devs here creates the problem making sure dialogue is open and fair... and then also the people who sign up because they know devs are here. But I love that they're here, and hope it stays that way for awhile.

It is up to the mod staff to make this a pleasant place for everyone as best we can. Devs and posters alike.

To do that, we have rules which you can find in the TOS thread in Steve's forum.

To me, the nice thing about having devs here isn't the "complicated" stuff we figure out- it's the simple things. Instead of stumbling through trying to figure out "what does this do?" for 327.2 posts while everyone labs it ...one of the devs can say "it does X."

Everyone is expected to follow the same rules here, which really are more about how to treat people than power. Be nice, even in disagreement and you'll be fine.

NOW BACK ON TOPIC. Don't even quote or respond to me.
 
# 312 authentic @ 01/03/12 12:29 PM
Man those camera's are sweet!

But seriously, I cannot wait until we start to get more info leaked. CES in a week, I think that's where we get a lot of info. Last year we got some vids I think even with Russ in them. After not playing this game since like August, I am hooked on MLB 11 right now. I can't stop playing it.
 
# 313 Bobhead @ 01/03/12 01:11 PM
Only 66 days until The Show can be in our PS3s!!!!!
 
# 314 ryan36 @ 01/03/12 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobhead
Only 66 days until The Show can be in our PS3s!!!!!
But Mr. Bobhead I'm not done with 11!
 
# 315 EnigmaNemesis @ 01/03/12 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ryan36
But Mr. Bobhead I'm not done with 11!
Never done till the next one...
 
# 316 authentic @ 01/03/12 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by EnigmaNemesis
Never done till the next one...
Same here! I'm still really enjoying 11 right now.
 
# 317 authentic @ 01/03/12 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by legendm0de
if you dont enable me to take all that **** off im gonna kick ur ***
sounds like a personal problem...
 
# 318 EnigmaNemesis @ 01/03/12 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by legendm0de
if you dont enable me to take all that **** off im gonna kick ur ***
Real charmer with the ladies!

 
# 319 WTF @ 01/03/12 06:37 PM
No need for hostility gentleman. Carry on about your business.
 
# 320 EnigmaNemesis @ 01/03/12 06:38 PM
Haha WTF, all good. We were just being our playful sarcastic selves.



Keep forgetting some do not know our "Off Topic" charm.
 


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