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NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

09:16 PM - December 13, 2011 by Steve_OS

The NBA 2K12 patch 1.04 is now available on the PS3 and 360. Please post your impressions here.

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# 741 Vni @ 01/07/12 02:10 PM

How do you score 200 points a game in HOF?

# 742 stillfeelme @ 01/08/12 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 1D4ever


	The defense on this game is a joke. I don't think I have ever seen a legit double team. I scored 102 last night with a created Harold Miner (he's rated about an 80) he was not doubled once. I really didn't feel I was forcing it to him either, Wade had 27 and Lebron had about 30 as well, nobody was doubled the whole game. I was playing the 97-98 Spurs on hall of fame level and I still dropped a little over 200 points on them. The abilty to score a ton with one player is no issue you can do that with most bb sims it's that fact that the cpu couldn't seem to care less is my issue. The game is great in some ways but I can't think of an NBA live game that had this issue. Come on in 1993 Bulls vs blazers use to attempt to double and the top game 20 years later can't do that, smh.

I have to say I have never seen anything close to this and you may have broke the code man. Were you playing with fatigue on? Can you do it again and send a screen shot? Actual All star games can't even achieve those numbers the best of the best with little defense until the fourth quarter.

You can't play unrealistically and expect realistic defense or results. Though I do agree that the double team thing is a problem as well as the CPU does not recognize mis-matches and will send no help on switches. The CPU AI doesn't recognize the drive and switch to help. They don't rotate on help well to simulate what happens in the real NBA much more than it happens in this game. They have basically made the CPU on ball defense very high and force contact shots in the paint if you drive too much rather than rotate and leave a man open.

# 743 Flightwhite24 @ 01/08/12 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ill23matic

You wrong ill23matic

I've been sitting here trying to figure out if this is real or a blatant lie???? 200pts??? Maybe he thought he was on HOF???

# 744 StB589 @ 01/09/12 01:37 PM

Am I the only who's actually struggling to score after the patch? Shots that I could make with regularity before the patch I can't even hit anymore. I run plays more often than not, and take the best shots I possibly can but I still get low ratings for shot quality and I'm even shooting airballs from 3 when I try to catch the defense off guard on fast breaks.

IDK what the hell happened to my game. I stopped playing for about 3 weeks but I find it hard to believe I fell off that much lol. I play with the Knicks if that matters.

# 745 Vni @ 01/09/12 07:29 PM

Personnaly I always double team a player when he has over 75 points

# 746 Lyvean @ 01/10/12 06:47 AM

The problem with the double team issue is that is simply unbalances ALL aspects of the game.

It unbalances points, defence, fouls, fatigue, open play, everything.

Has anyone seen the A.I. doing a double team to another A.I. team?

I still find it incredibly insulting that those clowns at 2k have produced such a faulty game and then remain silent about its problems. Especially the double team problem...

Simply unbelievable. But I know next year people will flock to buy this broken product again, hoping that it's fixed.

If you don't do that (I won't) and sales go down, then 2k will think twice about releasing such product.

# 747 daman22 @ 01/11/12 06:16 AM

This issue is on Xbox 360:

OK, I downloaded the TU, the online_data, and the 1x7 roster, the roster loads, the black arms are fixed in game, but when I go to edit one of the rookies that had black arms(I tested Justin Harper), the game freezes when it says loading NIKEID. And when viewing the roster/lineup, his face doesnt show up, its just a grey head shape. The Online_data loaded fien cause the 1st time i put the game in it showed all the new shoes. could it be the TU? I put it in cache, ho do I know if it worked? How can I fix this?

# 748 Whaaaazuuuuup @ 01/12/12 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lyvean


	The problem with the double team issue is that is simply unbalances ALL aspects of the game. It unbalances points, defence, fouls, fatigue, open play, everything. Has anyone seen the A.I. doing a double team to another A.I. team? I still find it incredibly insulting that those clowns at 2k have produced such a faulty game and then remain silent about its problems. Especially the double team problem... Simply unbelievable. But I know next year people will flock to buy this broken product again, hoping that it's fixed. If you don't do that (I won't) and sales go down, then 2k will think twice about releasing such product.

Raise your (& the CPUs) help defense strength. I currently have mine set to 80 and it works great!! The Knicks doubled Jordan during his hot streak each time he caught the ball...

# 749 greenegt @ 01/12/12 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Whaaaazuuuuup


	Raise your (& the CPUs) help defense strength. I currently have mine set to 80 and it works great!! The Knicks doubled Jordan during his hot streak each time he caught the ball...

I'll have to give this a try. Have you noticed if it helps increase doubles in the post?

# 750 Whaaaazuuuuup @ 01/12/12 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by greenegt


	I'll have to give this a try. Have you noticed if it helps increase doubles in the post?

Yes! I gotta tell you, I've got a slider setting that has saved this game for me. You'll see slot of random things. Plenty of realistic fast break. CPU will now take their time setting up their offense and select good shots. Off rebs are a tad on the low end (5-10 a game) but im still treaking. No more obsord 3pt shot(30-40% a game average) Give it a try and let me know if you'd like to try the slider settings...

# 751 Altimus @ 01/12/12 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by greenegt


	I'll have to give this a try. Have you noticed if it helps increase doubles in the post?

I'll have to give this a go as well.

# 752 DJ @ 01/12/12 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Whaaaazuuuuup


	Raise your (& the CPUs) help defense strength. I currently have mine set to 80 and it works great!! The Knicks doubled Jordan during his hot streak each time he caught the ball...

Very interesting. I'll have to test this out later.

# 753 nogster @ 01/12/12 11:12 PM

It doesnt cause doubles. it causes deeper and more aggressive help D.

There is a big difference between help D and double/traps.

Put it on 100 if you want. you still wont see a double.

All it means is the help D will collapse more and a player will more likely than not sag off his player to cover or cut out driving lanes.
It creates the illusion of a double. like in the real NBA when you see a perimeter defender really sag off his man in anticipation of trapping or collapsing on the offensive player making a move. To let the player know he will be doubled as soon as he makes his move and/or puts the ball on the floor.

Except in the real NBA the player will also actually trap or double the player.

All you have to do is if you see the cpu doing this and "shadowing"' you with help D. call an ISO, create more court spacing. you will then have more room to operate.
The double will never come.

# 754 Whaaaazuuuuup @ 01/13/12 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nogster


	It doesnt cause doubles. it causes deeper and more aggressive help D. There is a big difference between help D and double/traps. Put it on 100 if you want. you still wont see a double. All it means is the help D will collapse more and a player will more likely than not sag off his player to cover or cut out driving lanes. It creates the illusion of a double. like in the real NBA when you see a perimeter defender really sag off his man in anticipation of trapping or collapsing on the offensive player making a move. To let the player know he will be doubled as soon as he makes his move and/or puts the ball on the floor. Except in the real NBA the player will also actually trap or double the player. All you have to do is if you see the cpu doing this and "shadowing"' you with help D. call an ISO, create more court spacing. you will then have more room to operate. The double will never come.

Yes and no...

In the REAL NBA you rarely see true double teams. Why?... Because players and teams are to smart and will adjust and find open shots by moving the ball. What you're right, the CPU will drop and in anticipate a hot player's next move, they SHOULD NOT double team him each time he gets the ball because then, it will be 4 on 3 basketball. I just finished a game with the 86 celtics(me/home) vs the 87 lakers. bird got HOT!! So the lakers(CPU) started watching for him. When he got the ball in the perimeter, they did not double, why because he's an excellent passer and the 86 celtics, anyone on that team could score. But once I made my move and was in a position were I was a threat and exposed my defender, the defense help came, and two defenders were on me. Sometimes a trap animation would kick in. It may be my other gameplay slider setting which allows this to happen, idk, but I'm pretty please with what I've found...

# 755 nogster @ 01/13/12 12:43 AM

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	In the REAL NBA you rarely see true double teams.

We must be watching a different sport then.

I am seeing plenty of double teams and traps. They often are negated because the offensive player wisely passes just before he is in trouble. [which is the point in going to double in the 1st place, either cause a t/o or force the player to pass]

Maybe thats why you "rarely" see true doubles.
doesnt mean that the D isnt attempting to doube/trap and doing it regularly.

In 2k. the cpu simply doesnt commit to the double. it provides help and shadows you but that is not enough. Its fake. You never have to worry you are going to be forced to give up the ball. [unlike reality].

As I said. if you see the cpu sag off its man and provide "help" to cutoff lanes etc...just call an ISO to create better court spacing. the double wont ever come.

# 756 Whaaaazuuuuup @ 01/13/12 12:35 PM

No same sport, lol...

Maybe it's got to do with my defense awareness so low and team help set so high. Theyre not fully engaged into a double team most of the time but the help is altering my shot/success greatly...

# 757 Whaaaazuuuuup @ 01/13/12 03:38 PM

Ok, I'm trying to upload a video of the lakers double teaming bird offer he scrorched them on three straight buckets...

# 758 eF 5ive @ 01/14/12 01:27 AM

The help d slider sucks because you can just scorch the CPU with PnRs. The problem is they don't engage in a trap. Call a PnR with 100 help d you'll score each time. The defenders need to engage the ball handler with hands up forcing a turnover or bad pass. I just think 2k12s ai sucks. I'll still play but it doesn't feel as authentic as last years. With 100 help d it just creates slower rotations for CPU defense.

# 759 Altimus @ 01/14/12 12:54 PM

For the first time since the original 2K hit I might be shelving this game. I keep giving it chances but I just can't overlook certain things. The way the AI runs the offense, stands around and just hits a defended shot more than half the time is just ridiculous. Plus no double teams, cheap skating defense, quickness/speed have 0 meaning, and some other things. 2K should be ashamed of this product outside their legendary modes and pretty presentation/graphics. The core basketball gameplay is just bad against the AI. Passing and even the dribbling feel wrong at times. My cycle from playing 2K from release to release might be over.

# 760 fatleg3 @ 01/14/12 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Altimus


	For the first time since the original 2K hit I might be shelving this game. I keep giving it chances but I just can't overlook certain things. The way the AI runs the offense, stands around and just hits a defended shot more than half the time is just ridiculous. Plus no double teams, cheap skating defense, quickness/speed have 0 meaning, and some other things. 2K should be ashamed of this product outside their legendary modes and pretty presentation/graphics. The core basketball gameplay is just bad against the AI. Passing and even the dribbling feel wrong at times. My cycle from playing 2K from release to release might be over.

Yea I cant defend the a.i. If a video game ever made me want to punch a hole through a wall, playing the CPU in this game would be the one. Most of the complaints about the A.I. cheap tactics is one of the things I do agree with posters about.

Thats is why I play solely online. I have to put up with cheesers but at least I can counter and adjust to stop them.

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