Madden 12 News Post

Madden NFL 12 Franchise Mode Details, More Coming Monday (IGN)

03:59 PM - May 13, 2011 by Hooe

IGN has posted a preview for Franchise Mode in Madden NFL 12.

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	"'Any Given Sunday' isn't just the title of a bad football movie; it's an old adage that you never know what you're going to get when players step out on the field. Anything can happen. Your star QB could sling it five yards past every receiver. Your shaky rookie cornerback might come up clutch with a game-changing interception. Over the course of weeks and seasons, players are defined by their tendencies and begin assuming roles in their teams. Madden NFL 12 developer Tiburon recognizes this and has made it part of the core upgrade to Franchise mode. It's true, Madden has disappointed with its Franchise mode the past few years, but that looks to be changing this year. The amount of improvements is staggering, but the most significant are the additions of dynamic player performance and player roles."

IGN will be releasing a follow-up blog on Monday, May 16th going more in depth about the changes to Franchise Mode.

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# 261 K_GUN @ 05/15/11 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tazdevil20


	There will be even more if they can consolidate the two game modes into a single game mode. Lots of benefits to that.

agreed but more must prefer offline than online, OTW offline wouldn;t be getting the love....so...fix offline first & make online a parallel mode later

# 262 TracerBullet @ 05/15/11 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by guaps


	When features were in Madden at one point, they do not become new features when they are relaunched. Just as people wouldn't think of the BigMac as a new burger if McDonalds decided to discontinue the BigMac and relaunch it 5 years later.

Tell that to Taco Bell, they always do exactly what you're saying. Plus, like Chooe said, its just not a good analogy.

# 263 Smoke316 @ 05/15/11 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by adembroski


	I just want to reiterate, a lot of the questions asked in this thread will be answered in the blog coming out tomorrow (I believe). I'm holding off addressing anything until that time. But I do want to respond to Nza, simply because of the time and effort he's put in to make PC Madden's franchise so outstanding and he deserves the attention. I know him from FF, which was introduced to me by Spin16 and Bakersville when I helped design and test features for Gommo's MaddenAmp for Madden 06. I don't think they would have hired me if they hadn't made that committment.

Adembroski thats probably the best news i have heard in a long time. im glad there is a guy like Us within the Madden team to keep things in proper perspective. Although i love Online Franchise ( i ran a 12 team league last year for 5+ seasons) theres nothing better than having a franchise that you have run at your own pace like offline. The foundation seems to be coming along great i cant wait. Thanks

Happy for you man

# 264 TLF @ 05/15/11 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BestServedCold


	Can you link me to the video? I've always really wanted a draft show, so this is incredibly exciting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRiyi-MyGo

here you go man

# 265 Lexicon @ 05/15/11 04:22 PM

I think it comes down to innovation. Are you implementing things we've never seen before in a football video game and are those features actually important and fun to use? While I welcome the things they are adding this year, I can't help but wonder what would be in the game this year if those features had been implemented years ago.

Obviously EA and Tiburon have their features outlined for the future, so there's not much sense in complaining if they're only going off what they have planned. However, I understand people's frustration in the lack of innovation over the years as it's concerned for franchise mode.

# 266 TLF @ 05/15/11 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexicon


	I think it comes down to innovation. Are you implementing things we've never seen before in a football video game and are those features actually important and fun to use? While I welcome the things they are adding this year, I can't help but wonder what would be in the game this year if those features had been implemented years ago. Obviously EA and Tiburon have their features outlined for the future, so there's not much sense in complaining if they're only going off what they have planned. However, I understand people's frustration in the lack of innovation over the years as it's concerned for franchise mode.

if they made the game good , i would be able to play it for Years imo

i still play Madden 07 and 05 because how much i Love the Franchise mode
the Radio Show , newspaper , player morale etc. the scouting was actually helpful not confusing

its not hard to ask , they have the title EVERY year
they get paid , make the game Better or lose your Damn Job , plain as Day....

the definition of Insanity is doing the Same Thing over and OVER and expecting a Different result.....
sounds like Madden is a bunch of Insane people hoping things will play in their Favor

# 267 Dbrentonbuck @ 05/15/11 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bedpan_Gamer


	Where in that video was there a draft show?

I think he thought you meant team entrances... there is (to my knowledge) no functionality in M12 for what you are talking about... a draft pick walking up on stage.

# 268 TLF @ 05/15/11 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dbrentonbuck


	I think he thought you meant team entrances... there is (to my knowledge) no functionality in M12 for what you are talking about... a draft pick walking up on stage.

yea i thought u meant that

the only time they had a draft thing was in Head Coach

# 269 Smoke316 @ 05/15/11 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TLF


	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRiyi-MyGo here you go man

Na the Team Intros i would def watch those are legit.

# 270 TLF @ 05/15/11 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke316


	Na the Team Intros i would def watch those are legit.

AGREEEED

turn the Volume up on the LCD and the intor's should be **** as Gameday on the Big Screen

# 271 Dbrentonbuck @ 05/15/11 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexicon


	I think it comes down to innovation. Are you implementing things we've never seen before in a football video game and are those features actually important and fun to use? While I welcome the things they are adding this year, I can't help but wonder what would be in the game this year if those features had been implemented years ago. Obviously EA and Tiburon have their features outlined for the future, so there's not much sense in complaining if they're only going off what they have planned. However, I understand people's frustration in the lack of innovation over the years as it's concerned for franchise mode.

See, I don't have a problem with people saying this. Innovation is a lot different than "bringing back a feature". It is true that implementing a feature that was on last gen games is not innovative, but other than the initial design process, it takes just as much effort to develop an old idea as it does a new one. My logic is that if it was a good idea last gen, then I have no problem with them putting it in this game. To be honest, if you had asked me after M11 what feature from a past gen game I would want in this game it would have been player roles. I am sure others feel differently, but I liked the feature.

# 272 Smoke316 @ 05/15/11 04:58 PM

I love the fact madden comes out Aug 30th. For me itll signify the end of summer along with Labor Day. Now we dont have to wait that long to have the proper rosters to start our franchises with. Man its been a while since I really played offline franchise like that only because there wasnt anything drawing me to come back game after game. The reintroduction of player roles will bring back that PS2 madden franchise feel i really missed. That unpredicability has been missing but from the looks of things it looks to be back on track.

I liked the potential rating however i think with the roles you dont really need the actual rating anymore. I know Gms in my franchise would just go after A and B rated players which undermined the entire franchise with one team having 16 A rated players with 90+ ratings lol. I could see with the Player Roles certain potentials fitting into those roles, That way we dont need to see the actual rating at all.

I like where this is going. Looks like ill have a lotta reading to do in the office tommorow lol

# 273 Smoke316 @ 05/15/11 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dbrentonbuck


	See, I don't have a problem with people saying this. Innovation is a lot different than "bringing back a feature". It is true that implementing a feature that was on last gen games is not innovative, but other than the initial design process, it takes just as much effort to develop an old idea as it does a new one. My logic is that if it was a good idea last gen, then I have no problem with them putting it in this game. To be honest, if you had asked me after M11 what feature from a past gen game I would want in this game it would have been player roles. I am sure others feel differently, but I liked the feature.

I understand the whole innovation thing but honestly lets just have a franchise that works, is functional and keeps us as fans coming back week after week. Sometimes when they try to get cute with features and all that the foundation gets neglected you know? So i have no issue with the "going back to basics" kinda thing. It was when they had player roles and Owner Mode when franchise had that RPG feel to it almost that made me come back game after game.

# 274 jmurphy31 @ 05/15/11 05:20 PM

I know this is a long shot, but do you think they will talk about weather in franchise in the blog? Like last year when it always rained or snowed in the same game every year no matter what. Hopefully this year there is some variation to the weather.

# 275 Still2REal @ 05/15/11 10:05 PM

WOW, So they basically add in features that are EXTREMELY SIMILAR to what they had in the past, use new descriptive words, ignore online franchise (apparently), and this is the new commitment?

I've never understood the excitement about practice squads. What's the big deal about adding a few more low rated players to your roster. 99% of practice sqaud people are bums, that's why they aren't on the regular roster.

Maybe tomorrow will prove me wrong, but none of these features seem like a big deal to me

# 276 Hooe @ 05/15/11 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinking Out Loud


	I was just going to ignore the requests for offline franchise to be improved "before" online franchise but I just can't hold my peace! LOL Please, PLEASE, stop pretending as if these modes currently being separate, makes any sense. NCAA has a college franchise mode called Dynasty mode and it is ONE mode that can be played online or offline. That's what Madden franchise should be and hopefully will be this year. Regardless of if you love playing offline for whatever reason or hate playing online for whatever reason, it should just be ONE franchise mode.

Online franchise can't quite work the same way as online dynasty does. The two particular events preventing this involve more live elements, that being the NFL Draft and, specifically for Madden 12, free agent bidding.

To elaborate: every action in NCAA's online dynasty can be broken up into discrete steps that doesn't require each player to be online simultaneously to perform; for example, recruiting is broken up into five stages in the offseason, each team puts in its plan independently, and then the game runs the results. This can't be done for the NFL Draft; all the players must be allowed to be present simultaneously to do it due to the dynamic nature of the event. Same with the new free agent bidding system. To Madden's credit, one of the things the existing online franchise does in fact have is a draft mechanism where all players can join and leave as they please while the draft operates.

In short, it's a separate but related set of technical challenges that's different enough for it to be its own game mode. Not to say I wouldn't like to see it done, however, I absolutely do.

# 277 BlueNGold @ 05/15/11 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Still2REal


	WOW, So they basically add in features that are EXTREMELY SIMILAR to what they had in the past, use new descriptive words, ignore online franchise (apparently), and this is the new commitment? I've never understood the excitement about practice squads. What's the big deal about adding a few more low rated players to your roster. 99% of practice sqaud people are bums, that's why they aren't on the regular roster. Maybe tomorrow will prove me wrong, but none of these features seem like a big deal to me

1) They've paid enough attention to online users over the years. It's about time offline players get some love.

2) Way to assume they haven't done anything to OF when they haven't even spoken about online or the rest of franchise mode yet.

3) Dynamic Player Progression, live FA bidding, expanded rosters, etc. were never in last-gen. Just because they added Player Roles that they had in PS2 Madden 07 (something pretty much every franchise user has wanted) doesn't mean the world is on fire and this is somehow a bad thing, so people need to stop with that ****. The ones complaining that an old feature is returning are the EXACT same ones that would be bitching if it wasn't.

4) People want practice squads because -- surprise! -- they wanted realism and want their franchise mode to resemble the real NFL.

5) Just because these features aren't a big deal to you, doesn't mean they aren't to a lot of other people.

# 278 Hooe @ 05/15/11 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bedpan_Gamer


	Dynamic weather is a must. Playing in rain in Jacksonville in week 3 no matter what year, what season.... or snow in the playoffs in Cleveland last year was a joke of all jokes and is pure plum dog laziness on a developer's part. And something they never addressed as to why they cut corners on. LOL @ integration with The Weather channel (or lack of)

I don't see how the lack of dynamic weather is "laziness" on the part of EA Tiburon. It's not like they can just plug evolving weather during games into the game in a blink of an eye.

What other sports video game to this point has even had dynamic weather, anyway? As far as I know, FIFA doesn't have it, NCAA doesn't, and neither of the MLB games do. Point is, it's not easy to do and the developers chose to spend their resources elsewhere.

# 279 TLF @ 05/15/11 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CHooe


	I don't see how the lack of dynamic weather is "laziness" on the part of EA Tiburon. It's not like they can just plug evolving weather during games into the game in a blink of an eye. What other sports video game to this point has even had dynamic weather, anyway? As far as I know, FIFA doesn't have it, NCAA doesn't, and neither of the MLB games do. Point is, it's not easy to do and the developers chose to spend their resources elsewhere.

to be Honest i never Noticed that

i just want them to get each Stadium's wetaher correct

like the Fog in Philly and the New Meadowlands and the Rainy Snow in Philly

and the snow better be in full effect in Chicago and Green Bay

# 280 roadman @ 05/15/11 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TLF


	to be Honest i never Noticed that i just want them to get each Stadium's wetaher correct like the Fog in Philly and the New Meadowlands and the Rainy Snow in Philly and the snow better be in full effect in Chicago and Green Bay

Eh, it doesn't always snow in December in the windy city or the frozen tundra. Snow is over-rated in December around here. January, more likely.

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