NBA Elite 11 News Post

NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

01:52 AM - September 21, 2010 by Pared

The NBA Elite 11 demo is available for PS3 users. If you don't see it, just use the search function in the PSN Store, it weighs in at 923 MB.

The 360 demo should be arriving at around 5:00 - 9:00AM EST. When it is available, we will update this post.

UPDATE: The 360 demo is now up. Queue it up right here.

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Please limit this topic to IMPRESSIONS only.

This does not mean posts such as:

"Cool is it really out?"

"When will it be out for 360?"

"25% finished."

Download the demo, play it, give your thoughts. Simple.

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# 681 stepsix @ 09/22/10 02:32 AM

@packers - go pack!

Yes we are looking at that. A fix went in before final but after the demo went out the door and we're monitoring closely for any further instances, because gameplay is basically hung at that point.

# 682 stepsix @ 09/22/10 02:34 AM

TreyIM2 - I'll have to check tomorrow morning to be sure, but I don't think there's any sliders missing from the demo.

# 683 Playmakers @ 09/22/10 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GBPackers27


	Guys.....I dont even know what to say about the HORRENDOUS glitch that happens about halfway through this video, it truly has to be seen to be believed. ReAnimator needs to see this ASAP. I was literally in tears laughing so hard at what happened (I am not the guy who made this video btw) The glitch happens at around 3:00 in the video with Bynum at center court http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLPGD...layer_embedded

LOL!

How the heck did you get that guy to stay at halfcourt and play dead.....

Love the commentary had me rolling.....i'm going to show it to some people at work.

They are going to trip out at that broadcasting you did.....

# 684 DocHolliday @ 09/22/10 02:39 AM

EA has the worse crowds. That looked nothing like the finals. No life.

# 685 Playmakers @ 09/22/10 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stepsix


	TreyIM2 - I'll have to check tomorrow morning to be sure, but I don't think there's any sliders missing from the demo.

That's not good news stepix,

the demo doesn't have any game speed slider and there's a lack of sliders in general.

Basically you can't customize this game much at all if the sliders in the demo is all we get this year.

Also i thought they were going to include numbers this year?

The Human and CPU sliders are still using the poorly implemented click method. Did you guys strictly make this game more for ONLINE play or what this year because offline we basically have very limited options to customize gameplay and that is not a good thing at all IMO.

# 686 Cripterion @ 09/22/10 02:44 AM

I didn't buy NBA LIVE 10 last year just played the demo and thought it was an ok game, but this year's installment does seem pretty bad.

I dunno if it's the AI or the animations but doesn't feel like basketball. All players feel generic and so rigid, like they're made of wood.

Even showed my non gamer gf the demo and she felt the player's movement were ackward while when playing the "other game" she thinks it's real basketball playing on tv (yeah, I know...)

On the positive side, I liked the arena sounds, commentary (perhaps cause it's different commentators so feels fresh to me) and some of the faces are really accurate. Bynum looks like Bynum hehe

# 687 yungflo @ 09/22/10 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBPackers27


	Guys.....I dont even know what to say about the HORRENDOUS glitch that happens about halfway through this video, it truly has to be seen to be believed. ReAnimator needs to see this ASAP. I was literally in tears laughing so hard at what happened (I am not the guy who made this video btw) The glitch happens at around 3:00 in the video with Bynum at center court http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLPGD...layer_embedded

reanim said its patched in retail.

# 688 bears5122 @ 09/22/10 02:55 AM

Sort of feels like a launch title for a new console. You can kind of see where they are going with things and it looks good long term, but needs a lot of tightening up. Maybe in a couple years it'll look/play better but they seem to be really far behind where competitors are in this field.

I'll be passing on this but keep an eye out in case the final version blows people away. Likely going to need a lot of work to convert me or them buying another exclusive license.

# 689 treasy21 @ 09/22/10 02:59 AM

Game's fun overall, yes the animations look sub-par but the gameplay feels refreshing

been messing around in become legendary mode and i've found myself shouting "PASS THE ****ING BALL" on a few occasions

I get in the post with the defender at my back? Point Guard dribbles down the clock

what the hell?

# 690 inkcil @ 09/22/10 03:07 AM

Live 10 was a good game on the right track...

but this Elite 11 is just plain abysmal.

I am on the PS3.

The graphics are terrible compared to last year.

The shooting controls took some getting used to, but were passable. But the passing controls...ugghhh.

What a terrible showing.

# 691 coolcras7 @ 09/22/10 03:08 AM

The gameplay is too generic to be considered a NBA sim, this is a basketball sim but not a NBA sim.

# 692 UnusualMattyB @ 09/22/10 03:12 AM

I have been a Live fan for most of my teen/adult life and I seriously feel like my favorite sports game has died. Not only by name but in present and future.

This game is horribly horrible.

The look is ridiculous comparatively, the feel would probably get better with practice but still is massively second rate, the commentary is foolish ("Rondo with a 2-pointer..." a 2-pointer? really? or commenting on the fact that the Jordan white team is "in another close game"...when did the Jordan white team play before?) I am so disappointed I want to rant and rave about it but I feel like I'd be run for the massively destructive vocabulary I would use while comparing everything to its competitor.

I have so much negative to say about this demo I will just end with "What the heck was that?!!?" I can't believe this is being sold in a couple weeks like this...there has got to be some major changes if EA stays afloat in the NBA genre.

2 words to finish my explanation of this demo experience: Dumb. (It is so bad I can't even waste another word on it.)

# 693 Wiffyjustus @ 09/22/10 03:13 AM

Feels like a lot of the excellent team control from Live 10 has been sacrificed for the sake of individual player control. I know it is technically still there but...

Maybe with time I could get used to the controls but I just don't have that kind of time.

Passing on RT? Unintuitive. First impression is not a good one. In this day where there are so many things trying to grab our attention first impressions are really important.

Sadly, I echo the thoughts of those who would have preferred to see EA build upon the foundation of Live 10.

My mum always said if you cant say something nice don't say anything at all. Sorry mum.

Um... the crowd and vibe was good.

Sorry devs, please don't take it personally. You guys are good guys, I'm sure. I work in TV, sometimes I work on great shows, sometimes terrible shows. My work effort is the same whether the show is good or bad. It is just one of those things... Chin up.

# 694 treasy21 @ 09/22/10 03:22 AM

lack of turbo is really offputting too

# 695 jamaaru @ 09/22/10 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by treasy21


	Game's fun overall, yes the animations look sub-par but the gameplay feels refreshing been messing around in become legendary mode and i've found myself shouting "PASS THE ****ING BALL" on a few occasions

Playstation(R2) or Xbox(Right Trigger)

# 696 HOLLIDAY1183 @ 09/22/10 03:28 AM

Been playing and playing, this time on 360, just slowly getting the controls engrained. BTW, the difference (graphics) between 360 & PS3 is pretty glaring to me personally. It's really a shame to PS3-only guys. But again, this is IMO.

Someone said before something to the effect of "why it doesn't play as smooth 5-on-5 as it does in the practice mode".... I feel the same way. The tutorials and pretty much everything I saw PREVIOUS to getting into the BOS vs LAL game, had me pretty excited. But the 5-on-5 action almost literally upsets me, knowing how much I actually liked Live 10, and how excited I was for Live 11 (until the big "new direction" news hit, that is).

Rebounding is still very bad. I had one sequence just now where Fisher rebounded three consecutive times over KG, Bynum & Gasol, when clearly they were not only in better position to grab it, but it seemed the bigs weren't even interested in getting to it.

Kobe just shot a J from the key, and it swished with the ball hitting the backboard awkwardly and bouncing back toward him. The trajectory of his shot was so flat, that IRL this could not possibly have been a swish like that. Like it warped thru the rim.

The CPU still ignores open shooters like Ray Allen. Left him open repeatedly and they didn't care. This was an issue for me in Live 10 also.

Also had a weird scenario where Gasol was posting me up from almost right under the rim, repeatedly pumpfaking. The shotclock went from about 16 to 6 or seven seconds. When I realized he wasn't going to shoot it, AND that there'd be no 3 second violation, I actually backed off and left him alone for the (assumed) easy score. But he continued to fake until the 1 second mark, after which he completed an awkward twisting 2 ft jumper.

The whole "having to switch hands manually to put body between defender and ball" is a very bad idea IMO. It's something that is natural IRL, but is "needless" in a game. A large part of the audience this game is aimed at, many of which maybe never played organized basketball, so it isn't "naturally" natural to them, thus it will seem like an extra chore to remember.

What troubles me as much as anything, are not only the flaws (every game has them), but some of these things are deliberate "design decisions." Like if I am at the top of the key with Kobe, and I master his release fromt that point (on SS level), nothing else matters, the shot is going in. I literally couldn't believe my eyes. It swished repeatedly.

That is, if it isn't blocked by the defender, which brings me to another "design decision." I heard a developer say that they sacrificed the realism of how a player needs to initiate a jumping animation, for the "game mechanic" of being able to contest a jumper/layup. Thus the ridiculous # of J's being rejected, and vertical heights. They felt this was a necessary and safe decision.... when most of us would probably assume, "wait a minute, that's not realistic! Remove or tune it until it is, guys!" Yet, no. They instead DECIDED realism takes the backseat here. First of a 3-yr plan or not, this worries me for the future, because what other "realistic" basketball fundamentals will be cut in favor of "design" choices?

The pro hop/gather button, is too powerful IMO. I'm able to just BS some moves, get a slight step on my defender, and BAM, whatever direction he is faked in, I can hop back away from him, get the space and knock down the J, the release point of which I've already mastered at this point.
But it's also way too powerful as a tool of getting to the rim. Even with Ray Ray, I've been able to hop my way into the lane and at least get a foul on the contest or an And 1 regularly (on SS level).

Graphics are to each his/her own, so I can't really say much. I do think Live 10 was sharper, but what's here isn't really bad. It's just the way everyone moves, and the lack of variety between players. I know for a fact that if the animations were 10 times better, people wouldn't dump on the graphics as much as I've seen. The "PS2" stuff is def uncalled for.

Turbo is NEEDED, and this is a huge indicator of having a "non-basketball" guy as the lead man. This shoulda been vetoed at the front door, and this is another thing that worries me about the future: the idea that the devs were onboard "from day 1" for something like the removal of turbo in a bball game. SMH man, not enough bball heads in that meeting.

But overall not terrible, I'm actually having fun the more I get the controls down. I tried to play even Red Dead after, and I had to "shake off" the Elite controls lol. The scheme is so different that it's doubtful anyone will be switching between both games this year too often.

It won't compete this year at all, but I hope that as a result we don't get another reboot. I hope they stick this out and we get all the sig and "basketball" stuff back by Elite 12 or 13.

Sorry for the wall of text guys, but wanted to play a bit more before posting

# 697 bears5122 @ 09/22/10 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by UnusualMattyB


	I have so much negative to say about this demo I will just end with "What the heck was that?!!?" I can't believe this is being sold in a couple weeks like this...there has got to be some major changes if EA stays afloat in the NBA genre.

The problem is that I think these were the major changes. They re-did a ton of stuff and even changed the name. I just don't see them starting over again next year.

My biggest concern now is that they'll get desperate and buy up another exclusive license.

# 698 Jano @ 09/22/10 03:40 AM

One adjustment you guys should make before playing your next game is to make sure the playcalling is on auto for the CPU's team. You should find it under gameplay settings, the cpu plays a little more aggressively and runs more plays that way.

# 699 treasy21 @ 09/22/10 04:06 AM

Also, is it just me or does the defensive stance look the same for all players?

It's also terribly awkward. The players' arms look too long for their bodies

# 700 Kush77 @ 09/22/10 04:29 AM

I liked the demo. The controls take a lot of getting used to - the passing more than the shooting.

I found myself taking really bad shots when I wanted to pass. I also ended up passing the ball when I wanted a layup/dunk because I would hit the right trigger. I'm so used to pressing RT for turbo.

I like the idea of not having a turbo button, with faster guys just being naturally faster. Someone did bring up a good point about how turbo should be a part of the game because players will pick and choose what points to push the ball. So I can understand that criticism.

The players look too skinny. Rondo's arms look like twigs from a distance. And from a distance the players look good, but when I saw them up close at the FT line, they didn't look as good as last year.

I liked the demo, and still plan on playing the full version of the game. I'm gonna be playing Elite and 2K - a lot.

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