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Madden NFL 11 Demo Available Now, Please Post Impressions Here

06:17 AM - July 27, 2010 by buddy321813

The Madden NFL 11 demo is available now for 360 and later today for the PS3. Please post your impressions here.

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# 761 MCNABB51BOI @ 07/28/10 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ODogg


	I've read every single post in this thread and compared to the NCAA demo impressions, wow what a difference in tone. NCAA was full of people talking about how great the demo was with a few grumblings. This thread seems to be mostly grumblings with a few people talking about how they enjoy the game, with hardly anyone talking about how great it is. The biggest compliment I'm seeing is the game is enjoyable or good. I wonder if this bodes ill for Madden sales this year. I know this is a small sampling but it held true for NCAA (reviews here were mostly positive and the game has outsold what EA expected) so you never know.

NCAA really has alot of problems game play is horrible also
i rather play madden but both have issues NCAA more than madden

# 762 Skyboxer @ 07/28/10 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by oakraider


	Each year for the past 5yrs I wait for Madden football and hope that the gameplay of the game is improved, each year I am dissapointed and continue to play 2k5 football. Th gameplay is what's important to me, untill that changes I will not play Madden.

I don't know why I'm always compelled to answer back these posts but:
NLF2K was not ever and will never be, the best FB game made. Money corner routes, awkward running etc...

I LOVED 2K and bought 2 copies it's last year and still own all the versions. It wasn't the greatness it has grown to be in peoples minds, period.

Was it a good game? Of course. Worth still playing vs games of today. Not for me....

If that's what you choose though. Have fun..

# 763 blackceasar @ 07/28/10 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan36


	I think Madden is more of a lightning rod, ODogg. While NCAA, too, is the only thing on the market, GameBreaker, college FB 2k etc. never gained as much traction as their NFL counterparts

Also I think the door for disappointment every year is more open with Madden than NCAA due partly to the fact that the hype machine and press that surrounds Madden is much much greater than that of NCAA. Its kind of like when Dwayne Wade was drafted and those years he didnt win a championship, people werent that passionate about it compared to Lebron James not winning championships. One player coming into the league was clearly hyped up more than the other, therefore the public's standards and expectations where greater on one vs the other.

# 764 blackceasar @ 07/28/10 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyboxer


	I don't know why I'm always compelled to answer back these posts but: NLF2K was not ever and will never be, the best FB game made. Money corner routes, awkward running etc... I LOVED 2K and bought 2 copies it's last year and still own all the versions. It wasn't the greatness it has grown to be in peoples minds, period. Was it a good game? Of course. Worth still playing vs games of today. Not for me.... If that's what you choose though. Have fun..

Right on point. I think some people mistake the presentation and polish off those sorts of things for the actual game itself...but if you are simply talking in the area of graphics and presentation for a FB game in 2005, the difference is about as wide as the Grand Canyon.

# 765 rhesuspieces @ 07/28/10 06:37 PM

With regards to stratpad. I'm all for limiting the ability of users to use exploits, but people will figure out how to do them anyway. I agree with the comments concerning the limits of the defensive play book. I may want to use a certain defensive play, but I want press coverage on the outside. Maybe I need a certain player double teamed and I don't want to use the two or three canned plays available.

Also, the real NFL may not utilize that level of customization presnap, but the real NFL has 11 individual thinking players. They know intuitively how to adjust if a running back gets put into motion to the outside. In Madden, you must direct your team appropriately.

# 766 TracerBullet @ 07/28/10 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan36


	... I think that were going to really tell the difference between teams this year... That's what gameflow is to me... The part were seeing of revamped playcall ai. I may be wrong but I'm excited. I remember when madden first switched to team specific playbooks way back when... I thought itd be horrible,lol. I remember that when I complain about changes before giving them a chance lol... I'm excited but still not a first day purchase for me. Is it for you?

Sorry to get back to you on this so late, but right now I'll probably only have the funds for one game in the next month and I won't be done with my first season of NCAA to get my draft class for a franchise. So right now it isn't becuase I have no interst in playing online a lot and I'm already having fun with NCAA. I think I'm just gonna go buy starcraft instead. Madden can wait this year. I will definently enjoy it though if all the teams do play like themselves with their improved playcalling.

# 767 Skyboxer @ 07/28/10 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MCNABB51BOI


	NCAA really has alot of problems game play is horrible also i rather play madden but both have issues NCAA more than madden

Have you even played NCAA11???

# 768 SuperDave21 @ 07/28/10 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ODogg


	I've read every single post in this thread and compared to the NCAA demo impressions, wow what a difference in tone. NCAA was full of people talking about how great the demo was with a few grumblings. This thread seems to be mostly grumblings with a few people talking about how they enjoy the game, with hardly anyone talking about how great it is. The biggest compliment I'm seeing is the game is enjoyable or good. I wonder if this bodes ill for Madden sales this year. I know this is a small sampling but it held true for NCAA (reviews here were mostly positive and the game has outsold what EA expected) so you never know.

I think you're right. It's a small sampling, but it could translate to how the hardcore Madden population receives Madden 11 in August. However, being a noob here, it also may indicate how the hardcore Madden players will lean as opposed to the general population. I'm a Madden fan, but not a hardcore player, and I thought the demo was very well done and a ton of fun. It could be that this game was catered to the general public (who has shown that they buy Madden every year as well) and this is what the general public cried out for. Once casual fans, like me, are swayed and engaged in Madden, then the hardcore fan base grows and EA caters to the hardcore audience once again next year. Then again, I could be wrong...

# 769 PGaither84 @ 07/28/10 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayman


	And I just can't understand how you can possibly not understand that people have different opinions. Seriously, if he likes it, if he thinks it's exceptional, why try to bring him down?

I have no problem with difference of opinion. I just expect you to back up your opinion with examples and facts. Why do "you" have that opinion? If he said he enjoyed the game, that's fine. I hope everyone enjoys Madden 11. I really do. However, I don't see how someone can claim the game play is exceptional with out giving any rhyme or reason, or rebuttal for that matter to examples to the contrary.

# 770 Only1LT @ 07/28/10 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyboxer


	I don't know why I'm always compelled to answer back these posts but: NLF2K was not ever and will never be, the best FB game made. Money corner routes, awkward running etc... I LOVED 2K and bought 2 copies it's last year and still own all the versions. It wasn't the greatness it has grown to be in peoples minds, period. Was it a good game? Of course. Worth still playing vs games of today. Not for me.... If that's what you choose though. Have fun..

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Originally Posted by blackceasar


	Right on point. I think some people mistake the presentation and polish off those sorts of things for the actual game itself...but if you are simply talking in the area of graphics and presentation for a FB game in 2005, the difference is about as wide as the Grand Canyon.

Lol. It isn't a mistake. He is expressing his opinion as you are yours. Him saying that 2K is the greatest Football game ever doesn't make it so and your saying that it isn't doesn't make it NOT either.

If either of you listed what you think is the greatest Football game of all time, it would be no more of fact than any other opinion. And there would be Millions of people that would disagree with you too.

# 771 ryan36 @ 07/28/10 06:44 PM

People don't always quantify why in their minds. When I eat a cake, I don't say , "The icing was a little too sugary, but the eggs they used must have been laid that morning, because they taste fresh. The flour could've been improved upon..."

Sometimes, we just say , "mmmm, cake , awesome!!" and stick our face in it.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm sticking my face in EA, and I'm not sure why?

# 772 rhesuspieces @ 07/28/10 06:50 PM

AI playcalling is officially broken:

I'm playing as the colts. All game long the jets are stacked against the run. 2 minutes left in the fourth quarter, manning has 300 yards and 3 tds while Addai has -6 yards rushing. Time to run out the clock right? Jets decide to come out in DIME package! 1st down, 1st down, end of game. That's inexcusable.

# 773 ryan36 @ 07/28/10 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rhesuspieces


	AI playcalling is officially broken: I'm playing as the colts. All game long the jets are stacked against the run. 2 minutes left in the fourth quarter, manning has 300 yards and 3 tds while Addai has -6 yards rushing. Time to run out the clock right? Jets decide to come out in DIME package! 1st down, 1st down, end of game. That's inexcusable.

What was the score?

# 774 rhesuspieces @ 07/28/10 06:55 PM

I was up 28-14. Difficulty was All-pro

# 775 countryboy @ 07/28/10 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PGaither84


	Seriously?!? Exceptional?!? In the very short time the game has been out and the video that are already showing up on Youtube of game play that I have already experienced, and I know you must have [because we are all playing the same demo] you call the game play exceptional?!? Are you not paying much attention to what is going out on the field? that has to be it. I just can't understand how you can possibly call the game play exceptional.

Ummmm...lets see. I find the gameplay to be exceptional, thats why I used that adjective to describe my opinion of the gameplay.

Disagree? Cool...but please don't ever call into question my opinion simply because you disagree with it, especially in the manner where you are dumbing it down.

Take care.

# 776 djphleks @ 07/28/10 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan36


	I don't think NFL defenses make more than 2 or 3 adjustments per play...I also don't think that I play in the NFL ... I think it just means you have to call better D. I wish they'd have tiered defensive play-calling...tell your guys in the box to do one thing, and the secondary to do another...I'd like that a lot

Oh boy the call a better D excuse. I agree defenses may not make more that 2 to 3 adjustments per play. but this is a video game. So lets say your opponent likes to run a toss play. You see the formation and you call your appropriate play. You see the formation on the field and now you want to move your d-line, crash the line, and move the linebackers. Same defensive play just making adjustments. I would like to see somebody get these 3 simple adjustments on the S-pad before the ball is snapped. Calling better D has nothing to do with it.

The defensive adjustments are tiered, its just that using the d-pad for these adjustments is inefficient.

# 777 ryan36 @ 07/28/10 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by djphleks


	Oh boy the call a better D excuse. I agree defenses may not make more that 2 to 3 adjustments per play. but this is a video game. So lets say your opponent likes to run a toss play. You see the formation and you call your appropriate play. You see the formation on the field and now you want to move your d-line, crash the line, and move the linebackers. Same defensive play just making adjustments. I would like to see somebody get these 3 simple adjustments on the S-pad before the ball is snapped. Calling better D has nothing to do with it. The defensive adjustments are tiered, its just that using the d-pad for these adjustments is inefficient.

Actually, that's EXACTLY what I do. I was doing it all last night, but I'm on ps3. So if you had a 360 and it's less responsive then yeah, I'd be frustrated too. But those are indeed the exact adjustments I make to stop outside runs.

# 778 wangtangkiki @ 07/28/10 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Palo20


	In real life they have a lot more defensive plays to choose from. I can't pick a Cover 2 with the line slanting right, I HAVE to change it at the line. If I want a creative zone blitz, or want to cancel a stunt and re-route the DE to a straight rush I HAVE to do it at the line. If we had better defensive playbooks, we wouldn't have to make so many changes at the line.

This is correct.

# 779 djphleks @ 07/28/10 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan36


	Actually, that's EXACTLY what I do. I was doing it all last night, but I'm on ps3. So if you had a 360 and it's less responsive then yeah, I'd be frustrated too. But those are indeed the exact adjustments I make to stop outside runs.

Thank you. I'm on a 360 so the lack of response on the d-pad makes all the difference. I don't think PS3 users will have that much trouble due to their d-pads being easier to maneuver.

And to MaddenEman I played plenty of games trying to get adjusted to the S-pad. You don't have time to get your adjustments off and that's the problem. Try to get those 3 adjustments off on the computer or human user before the snap.

# 780 kjcheezhead @ 07/28/10 07:42 PM

Even tho I wasn't a fan of Madden 10 I really thought this game would be an improvement and even better than NCAA 11 since it has been pretty much every year on these systems. Not the case this year, imo.

Like others are saying, the strategy pad is much more clunky and adds extra button presses to get the same adjustments. If your using gameflow, by the time you get to see the play art and read what the play is you barely have enough time to pinch or spread the dline much less accomplish any other adjustments.

On offense, the strategy pad is bad as well. If you wanna hot route a wr to a out route to the first down marker, you have to hit the strategy pad, then choose the wr, then the new route, then do it all over again to make it go to the marker. It just felt more cumbersome than the old version.

The coordinator's advice you get seems to tell you exactly what the cpu is about to do. If he tells you to watch the run and fill the gaps, its gonna be a run, if he tells you to watch the pass over the middle, that's where it's going.

I don't know if its just the ps3 version or just the demo but the replays worked as tho there was lag everytime. The aminimation transitions are also very glitchy just like previous versions.

I haven't played madden 10 since December and I don't remember if the hit stick was in the game but it feels like its been totally removed this year.

The new kicking meter wasn't good or bad, imo. I made every kick as easily as the old way.

I wasn't impressed with Gus Johnson in the vids from E3, but he actually was the only part of the demo I enjoyed. The stadium sounds and crowd gets quiet at strange times but Gus was alright. My only complaint with him is that he got way too excited about drive summaries, lol.

When the year started I was optimistic I would be buying at least 3 new football titles in 2010. Looks like I'll be spending my time playing more first person shooters instead.

I would give Madden 10 about an 8/10. Madden 11... 7.5.

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