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Fixes Coming For NBA 2K17 Shot Timing, Pass Speeds, Moving Screens, Defense and More

02:12 PM - October 13, 2016 by Steve_OS

Some more tweaks and fixes are coming to NBA 2K17. Gameplay Director Mike Wang, AKA Beluba, has posted some of the details on Twitter. Check them out below.

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	Fair Warning: Shot timing will become more difficult soon. It's too easy right now cause I had to compensate for the shot meter glitch. When I undo my band-aid fix, you will see a noticeable drop in the frequency of green releases, so enjoy them while they last. Sharpshooters will be just fine. But nobody should be averaging 80+% from 3PT range. Pass speeds, moving screens and defense are being looked at as well. And yes, we know about the Relentless Finisher issue. Will fix asap. It's not going to be as drastic as some of you think. I'm just prepping you all that the timing band-aid is going away after XB gets 1.04 Just addressing those who are saying that shooting is too easy and FG% are too high. I'm aware of it.

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# 81 Vroman @ 10/14/16 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IrOnKoBe


	Hope they don't put moving screens in the park keep it in pro am

They should definitely put them in park as well. Illegal screens makes as much sense as letting people walk with ball once picked up dribble.

# 82 GisherJohn24 @ 10/14/16 02:00 PM

Can someone tell me what the shot meter glitch is? I don't use it but is it ruining shots somehow? What does he mean players are shooting 80% from three point land?

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# 83 GisherJohn24 @ 10/14/16 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BluFu


	I thought Relentless Finisher was already fixed?

Can someone tell me what the relentless finisher is??

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# 84 Gosens6 @ 10/14/16 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The 24th Letter


	To me this is the same 2k who scared a great bit of park players off which Patch 6 just last year...had them going back to 2k15. Don't let frustrations (which I also have and have been clear about) give you a short memory. I just think sometimes their ambition gets the best of them....this whole situations reminds me of the 2K15 shooting problem. Also, we have to stop with this portraying 'online guys' as a bunch of NBA JAM loving savages who have no idea of what basketball is. Fact of the matter is, we are all kind of occupying the same space. 2k needs to find a way to make adjustments to each mode individually . That way we aren't unintentionally feeling the effects of another modes adjustments.

Agreed 24, but do you see some of the comments directed toward the devs on twitter from these park guys?

If not, I'd suggest taking a look, it's pretty alarming. Nothing but complaint after complaint about missing shots, about not being able to cross over 5 dudes at once and dunk over the entire population.

The majority really don't know basketball and it's painful to read. Now, OS is a different animal, the majority of guys here do watch basketball, and they do know what screams realism and what doesn't.

You and I both know that OS is an extreme minority, though. You're right about the shooting thing, too, but, why do guys who just want realistic NBA stats being punished?

This goes back to us wanting them to make 2 separate games, hell, they could even make park/pro am/career a download digital exclusive and it would sell like CRAZY.

Something has to be done. They're completely alienating a section of there audience, an audience that has been around awhile. Some of us have been loyal to these guys since 1999. I guess money talks, and we're getting the short end of the stick.

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# 85 Peninc @ 10/14/16 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76


	I disagree. It's still a good basketball simulation at its core. We just have to accept the fact that 2K is no longer a "niche" game, and it's a very popular game with the general public who are NOT basketball purists. The game is changing as its consumer base is changing. Personally, it's time for NBA 2K to be a video game and not an authentic sports simulation. If you're a MyGM, My League, or offline player, then adjust the game to your liking (obviously, you can't do anything about glitches) and download the necessary rosters, sliders, etc to improve your experience. If you're a PNO, Park, and ProAm player, then you need to expect that there will be exaggerated stats in online games. I'm at a point, as long as it's not overpowering or game breaking, sometimes you have to let a video game be a video game.

Can't knock your personal view. You did use the word "personally". But the day NBA2K abandons it's sim roots is the day it will end up like NBA Live. A shell of a game it once was, not because of lack of content but because it changed course. This shouldn't even be a discussion though because it's very unlikely to happen. The reason NBA2K gets the accolades it gets is not because of arcade elements and MyPark. It's because it's arguably the most accurately representative of the actual sport on its box cover. A thread about a developer's efforts to tune a game to be as realistic as possible, should not have even been taken there, but alas

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# 86 Goffs @ 10/14/16 02:17 PM

So uh any news when it's going to be released?

# 87 LionsFanNJ @ 10/14/16 02:20 PM

Xbox guys are getting prompts for the last patch now so hopefully sometime today or tomorrow i'd hope. Depending on if all this stuff needs patch or tuning update. From the way Beluba talks it sounds like a tune update.

# 88 coachcolbert @ 10/14/16 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gosens6


	Agreed 24, but do you see some of the comments directed toward the devs on twitter from these park guys? If not, I'd suggest taking a look, it's pretty alarming. Nothing but complaint after complaint about missing shots, about not being able to cross over 5 dudes at once and dunk over the entire population. The majority really don't know basketball and it's painful to read. Now, OS is a different animal, the majority of guys here do watch basketball, and they do know what screams realism and what doesn't. You and I both know that OS is an extreme minority, though. You're right about the shooting thing, too, but, why do guys who just want realistic NBA stats being punished? This goes back to us wanting them to make 2 separate games, hell, they could even make park/pro am/career a download digital exclusive and it would sell like CRAZY. Something has to be done. They're completely alienating a section of there audience, an audience that has been around awhile. Some of us have been loyal to these guys since 1999. I guess money talks, and we're getting the short end of the stick. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

both of you guys are right imo..

for the most part the park community are younger (5-21yrs old) and i dont mean this in a derogatory way. that age group is used to social media, and saying whatever you want whenever you want, to whomever you want.

i dont know how old you both are, but i feel like 2k and i grew up together (mid 30s, been playing since dreamcast) where now there is an entire generation of gamers that feel the game should play to their liking rather than learning the nuance to the game and mastering the game.

just my opinion...

by the way - i loved nba jam (tournament edition lmao)

# 89 CBAT @ 10/14/16 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ViolenceFight


	A lot of people think all park players want is NBA Jam. No. I personally want flashy basketball that is still grounded in reality. They can do crazy roll on the ground dribbles, or 360 double windmill dunks. I don't care as long as 1. A human can do it, and 2. The game is still grounded as "Good basketball wins".

Hey now, nailed it.

# 90 rjohns23 @ 10/14/16 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by coachcolbert


	both of you guys are right imo.. for the most part the park community are younger (5-21yrs old) and i dont mean this in a derogatory way. that age group is used to social media, and saying whatever you want whenever you want, to whomever you want. i dont know how old you both are, but i feel like 2k and i grew up together (mid 30s, been playing since dreamcast) where now there is an entire generation of gamers that feel the game should play to their liking rather than learning the nuance to the game and mastering the game. just my opinion... by the way - i loved nba jam (tournament edition lmao)

5 years old? Lol... Damn lol... I agree with ya man. I haven't even played mypark or mycareer ever... But my nephew who is 11 play that mess all day. When I asked him about myleague...he looked at me like I was crazy as hell

# 91 Gosens6 @ 10/14/16 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rjohns23


	5 years old? Lol... Damn lol... I agree with ya man. I haven't even played mypark or mycareer ever... But my nephew who is 11 play that mess all day. When I asked him about myleague...he looked at me like I was crazy as hell

It's crazy, out of all my friends who have this game, I'm literally the only one who even knows what my league is. I'm also the only one that ever plays with real NBA teams.

I get text after text from them asking if I play park, and if I could join their squad. I'm just like... no. I want to play NBA basketball lol. Let's go ball at some real courts if you wanna play in a park!

I guess that really does show where we are with this series now. I really really want them to at least discuss two separate games. They'd still make the same profit(presumably) and their entire fan base can still be happy.

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# 92 ksuttonjr76 @ 10/14/16 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Peninc


	Can't knock your personal view. You did use the word "personally". But the day NBA2K abandons it's sim roots is the day it will end up like NBA Live. A shell of a game it once was, not because of lack of content but because it changed course. This shouldn't even be a discussion though because it's very unlikely to happen. The reason NBA2K gets the accolades it gets is not because of arcade elements and MyPark. It's because it's arguably the most accurately representative of the actual sport on its box cover. A thread about a developer's efforts to tune a game to be as realistic as possible, should not have even been taken there, but alas Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

https://youtu.be/zHuNh9dlzIY

My apologies. I didn't mean for 2K Sports developer to completely abandon their desire to be a simulation. As someone stated, I see the direction that the game is going overall, and I recognize that the "sim" player is a dying animal. For me, I don't expect them to remain loyal to the OGs of the community, but I do expect them to follow the money. Following the money means VC and making the game approachable.

However, I do agree they still have to fix the bugs and glitches that "dumbs down" the game too much. That's a given. On the same token, I don't expect them to knuckle down and force everyone to be "sim" players.

# 93 Mintsa @ 10/14/16 02:59 PM

Like I said in another thread and also like how others have stated.

Now that the XB1 patch is out.....this shooting update should be released very very soon.

I'm eagerly waiting for the "update required box" on the lower left corner of my screen.

Apply these changes and LEAVE IT ALONE. I want consistency at this point, not tweaks every few days. Going into a PNO game, I need to know what I can do and want I cant do.

# 94 ataman5 @ 10/14/16 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mintsa


	Like I said in another thread and also like how others have stated. Now that the XB1 patch is out.....this shooting update should be released very very soon. I'm eagerly waiting for the "update required box" on the lower left corner of my screen. Apply these changes and LEAVE IT ALONE. I want consistency at this point, not tweaks every few days. Going into a PNO game, I need to know what I can do and want I cant do.

Let's get this now! I feel like the game is going to be released now..

# 95 twebb5896 @ 10/14/16 03:37 PM

I'm not a 2K defender by any means, but before you guys head to 2K HQ with pitchforks and torches, would they be trying to fix any of these things if only the casual community was listened to?

Come on guys, I'm excited to see that crazy shooting, moving screens, and other things get removed as much as anyone.

I'm not gonna tell someone to put down the game because they're not as skilled or experienced as I am and resolve to cheap tactics to try to bridge the skill gap.

That's why I love this community, probably the most diverse gaming community on the planet.

When did we become such elitists on OS?

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# 96 sooperb @ 10/14/16 03:40 PM

I look forward to these changes. Why not make the shot meter represent "the perfect release" instead of the "automatic bucket"?

# 97 RusDids29 @ 10/14/16 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sooperb


	I look forward to these changes. Why not make the shot meter represent "the perfect release" instead of the "automatic bucket"?

or how about "Great Form" without it being automatic?

# 98 jfsolo @ 10/14/16 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RusDids29


	or how about "Great Form" without it being automatic?

Should have been that all along, automatic makes was design decision mistake that is going to be tough to get rid of, but hopefully will happen.

# 99 trekfan @ 10/14/16 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by twebb5896


	I'm not a 2K defender by any means, but before you guys head to 2K HQ with pitchforks and torches, would they be trying to fix any of these things if only the casual community was listened to? Come on guys, I'm excited to see that crazy shooting, moving screens, and other things get removed as much as anyone. I'm not gonna tell someone to put down the game because they're not as skilled or experienced as I am and resolve to cheap tactics to try to bridge the skill gap. That's why I love this community, probably the most diverse gaming community on the planet. When did we become such elitists on OS? Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk

I don't believe anyone on OS is an "elitist." But there has been a noticeable and detrimental effect on 2K since the introduction of MyPark, Pro AM and VC. The game has gone from "let's build the most realistic game of basketball ever in digital form" to "let's build a game of basketball where we can give our players a chance to play against one another and buy advantages against one another."

They've turned the simulation 2K into a pay for play model -- if you want to be the best, you got to drop some (additional) cash to be the best. Yes, you can grind your way to a lot of this, but 2K isn't dumb; if the consumer is given the choice of instant gratification or spending large chunks of time to get the same thing, the consumer will more often buy the instant gratification than spend time earning it.

I don't think Pro Am/MyPark is the root cause of the sim crowd's woes; it's the VC. If there was no VC, if people had to earn the skills by playing sim/real basketball, we wouldn't be here. If there was no option to buy your way to the top, we wouldn't have so many complaints from the MyPark/Pro Am guys; but we do and it's a monster of 2K's making because they sold them the idea that if they bought their skills, they'd be the best and now they want to play that way when they -- as a user -- don't have the understanding or skill to do so. Their player might be maxed out, but the user hasn't learned anything new and some don't even understand the fundamental rules of basketball.

When you sell someone the idea that, if they spend more money they'll be better, people are going to want to see it. And if they don't see super-high shooting percentages and backstepping, fading threes with a defender in their face, they're not going to feel they got their money's worth.

And the truth is, they haven't. And they won't. Which is why the backlash from the online guys is so high and full of vitriol because not only did they pay for the game, the majority of them sunk even more cash into it to bump up their player avatars and aren't seeing the results they expected.

It's not their fault. Like us sim guys, they put down money and didn't receive the product they wanted. We're in the same boat, and that's the problem, we need to be in different boats that suit the two communities' unique needs.

We're not "elitists" here at OS; we have a fundamental disagreement on how 2K basketball should be played with the majority of the online players and there's no way to resolve that without one or both communities getting completely shafted. The best solution is for those two portions of 2K to be divorced from one another -- if not in actual form, then at least in updates/tuning so one side doesn't affect the other.

Whether that's a possibility is in question, but that's the best solution for all parties; as it stands right now, neither community gets the game they want.

If everyone loses, no one wins.

# 100 twebb5896 @ 10/14/16 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by trekfan


	I don't believe anyone on OS is an "elitist." But there has been a noticeable and detrimental effect on 2K since the introduction of MyPark, Pro AM and VC. The game has gone from "let's build the most realistic game of basketball ever in digital form" to "let's build a game of basketball where we can give our players a chance to play against one another and buy advantages against one another." They've turned the simulation 2K into a pay for play model -- if you want to be the best, you got to drop some (additional) cash to be the best. Yes, you can grind your way to a lot of this, but 2K isn't dumb; if the consumer is given the choice of instant gratification or spending large chunks of time to get the same thing, the consumer will more often buy the instant gratification than spend time earning it. I don't think Pro Am/MyPark is the root cause of the sim crowd's woes; it's the VC. If there was no VC, if people had to earn the skills by playing sim/real basketball, we wouldn't be here. If there was no option to buy your way to the top, we wouldn't have so many complaints from the MyPark/Pro Am guys; but we do and it's a monster of 2K's making because they sold them the idea that if they bought their skills, they'd be the best and now they want to play that way when they -- as a user -- don't have the understanding or skill to do so. Their player might be maxed out, but the user hasn't learned anything new and some don't even understand the fundamental rules of basketball. When you sell someone the idea that, if they spend more money they'll be better, people are going to want to see it. And if they don't see super-high shooting percentages and backstepping, fading threes with a defender in their face, they're not going to feel they got their money's worth. And the truth is, they haven't. And they won't. Which is why the backlash from the online guys is so high and full of vitriol because not only did they pay for the game, the majority of them sunk even more cash into it to bump up their player avatars and aren't seeing the results they expected. It's not their fault. Like us sim guys, they put down money and didn't receive the product they wanted. We're in the same boat, and that's the problem, we need to be in different boats that suit the two communities' unique needs. We're not "elitists" here at OS; we have a fundamental disagreement on how 2K basketball should be played with the majority of the online players and there's no way to resolve that without one or both communities getting completely shafted. The best solution is for those two portions of 2K to be divorced from one another -- if not in actual form, then at least in updates/tuning so one side doesn't affect the other. Whether that's a possibility is in question, but that's the best solution for all parties; as it stands right now, neither community gets the game they want. If everyone loses, no one wins.

Thank you for that man, I wasn't referring to the people that were making solid sound points about sim ball that I completely agree with.

It's the personal attacks on people that is really disappointing to me. Go outside? Really? I just thought we were above low blows like that honestly.

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