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NBA 2K16 Gameplay Blog With Da_Czar

06:00 PM - September 4, 2015 by Steve_OS

What’s happening family. It’s your man Da_Czar… I have started my sentences with this phrase too many times to count here on OS. With this, my first official blog post as a developer, I am returning to the format that started it all.

I know many of you here have been waiting a long time for us to talk about gameplay. Well the time has finally come so I won’t waste time with any more introductions.

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# 221 stillfeelme @ 09/06/15 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rjohns23


	As a 100% Myleague player, according to your response, for example, the LA Clippers will always play like the LA Clippers no matter the coach in regard to ACE? I know in previous games, the playbooks stay with the coach, I assuming that will still be the same this year. and just to be clear are you saying that ACE is hard coded for each team? If I do 30 team control , can I change a teams ACE philosophy/scheme during my Myleague?

What they said was defensive ACE is tied to the actual coach.
Offensive freelance offense was tied to team. I am thinking this includes playbooks as well.

The only way I say you want to change certain aspects of how ACE is handled would be to completely re-do rosters and teams from sctratch starting with the offensive freelance you want on the current team. However if you are personally controlling the one team you can change the freelance how you want and change the defense how you like.

# 222 rjohns23 @ 09/06/15 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BluFu


	From my understanding, you can change a team's defensive ACE strategy but not their offensive ACE. So the Clippers will always play like the Clippers offensively but can still change defensively.

Cool I can live with that. I'm pretty sure once we get the game and start messing with it. We can see what adjustments we can and cannot make to make myleague even more Sim

# 223 iFnotWhyNoT @ 09/06/15 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BluFu


	From my understanding, you can change a team's defensive ACE strategy but not their offensive ACE. So the Clippers will always play like the Clippers offensively but can still change defensively.

Yea which is a great start, hopefully by next year signing a coach will go beyond just their ratings and deeper into their philosophies. You can see where they are going with this, MyLeague and MyGM is really going to be its own world going further, as they build layer on layer.

# 224 rjohns23 @ 09/06/15 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stillfeelme


	What they said was defensive ACE is tied to the actual coach. Offensive freelance offense was tied to team. I am thinking this includes playbooks as well. The only way I say you want to change certain aspects of how ACE is handled would be to completely re-do rosters and teams from sctratch starting with the offensive freelance you want on the current team. However if you are personally controlling the one team you can change the freelance how you want and change the defense how you like.

Interesting. I wonder, from a myleague perspective, will there be tab/slider that allows you to adjust each team's offensive freelance. Not during the game, but as a coaching plan/strategy. I'm thinking it has more to with "in game "in regard to freelance strategy.

I just don't want to be 8 years into Myleague and the clippers have two back to the basket bigs that don't like to run and run, but the "team" still plays to that style as opposed to slowing it down lol... But as I said 2K is heading in the right direction!

# 225 Bexthelegend @ 09/06/15 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rjohns23


	Interesting. I wonder, from a myleague perspective, will there be tab/slider that allows you to adjust each team's offensive freelance. Not during the game, but as a coaching plan/strategy. I'm thinking it has more to with "in game "in regard to freelance strategy.

Yea it's tied to the team on the floor regardless of the coach.

That's why I created this thread

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ague-guys.html

As a way to obtain freelances from classic teams as your default freelance for your new team

# 226 BluFu @ 09/06/15 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rjohns23


	I just don't want to be 8 years into Myleague and the clippers have two back to the basket bigs that don't like to run and run, but the "team" still plays to that style as opposed to slowing it down lol... But as I said 2K is heading in the right direction!

(Czar correct me if I'm wrong here) but i remember them saying the ACE can adjust to what type of personnel is on the floor. So if the strength of the lineup is shooting, the AI will look for shooters. Or if it's posting up, then the AI will look to feed the post.

# 227 cbjr @ 09/06/15 04:20 PM

This has the makings of the best sim game ever assembled; can't wait to get it!!!

# 228 LorenzoDC @ 09/06/15 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BluFu


	(Czar correct me if I'm wrong here) but i remember them saying the ACE can adjust to what type of personnel is on the floor. So if the strength of the lineup is shooting, the AI will look for shooters. Or if it's posting up, then the AI will look to feed the post.

If I understand correctly, what will happen on a possession by possession basis is the AI will run dynamic decision points to identify scorers and scoring opportunities in the way it runs plays or runs through freelance branches.

However, that will happen in the context of the Clippers' hard coded freelance settings. Czar has selected a main and maybe a couple of alternate freelance settings for the team and those will be the ones they run. So you won't see them, for example, looking at those bigs and thinking, "hey they're good passers!" and then running triangle.

Now, it's possible that in MyGM/MyLeague the teams may look for certain kinds of players via trade, free agency and draft who best fit their preferred systems. That's what Leftos says anyway. So maybe the team in future years won't find themselves with personnel that really badly fit their intended play style. At least, they'll be trying to acquire players who fit the current Clippers' mold and style. So maybe the problem won't be that big.

We just won't see a change of offensive philosophy for teams over time, which would be ideal with coaching and personnel changes.

If you assume control a team (say, 30 team control), you can make it run what you want on the court if you play as the team, of course. You can also set its playbooks and choose plays to run. But if you choose triangle plays for the clippers the AI won't maybe run them much when operating as the CPU, and the plays won't fit the default spacing and movement of the players if the play does get called. So it really won't quite fit.

# 229 vannwolfhawk @ 09/06/15 04:53 PM

I'm still curious if we can set freelance offense during a timeout? We could not before and it took 5-6 seconds to do as you had harassing defender on you which was annoying. On top of that it took a possession before it kicked in (czar gave me heads up on that before I even knew so I know he was aware of it) so was that fixed this year?

# 230 NDAlum @ 09/06/15 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz


	The world's most popular game has a steep learning curve. They call it chess. I'm MORE than fine with this game getting more and more challenging for the RIGHT reasons. I'm sure most of the OS crowd would agree and I even think Lil' Billy would agree too.

Yea my statement wasn't one saying the game is too deep. I didn't play basketball in HS due to focusing on baseball (that was the sport I had a chance to make a living with).

I absolutely love playing basketball but it's never been in a structured environment where I had to learn offensive systems.

I just see everybody praising it and I sit here wondering if I'm the only person on OS who doesn't have a working knowledge of all the systems described in Da_Czar's blog.

I'm excited to get into practice and watch some YouTube videos from the guys on OS who talk about real basketball.

# 231 Da_Czar @ 09/06/15 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by City_foxx


	Can we use practice play mode for our freelance? Be nice to cut the time spent on defense out of scrimmages if we go in there to strictly look at offense

It took everything I had just to get the mode back in it's curent form. My goal was just get it in and working and push to expand it in the future. Would be a great thread to see what you guys want from this mode in the future.

# 232 Da_Czar @ 09/06/15 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RocketTMac1


	Love what I read and what I'm listening to on the SimHangout. Sounds like the struggle will be real this year with my Hornets in the actual league and in MyLeague lol.

You going to have your work cut out for you. LOL

# 233 Da_Czar @ 09/06/15 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eko718


	Hey Czar, is there a split pick and roll/ split double team animation?

No. You can manually manuver but no explicit gameplay mechanic. We need to do that right or it's an exploit waiting to happen.

# 234 Da_Czar @ 09/06/15 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by whatitisinsports


	Much respect to you Czar and it has been an enjoyable ride watching your videos and all you've done for the 2k community. Appreciate it all through the years. If you can answer this one question for me. Do all these changes translate to my career mode? The last couple of games, mycareer plays completely different than any other mode. It just wasn't an enjoyable mode due to how the A.I. teammates and the A.I. opponents played the game.

Yes all changes apply to my career mode.

# 235 Da_Czar @ 09/06/15 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tsbmolina


	Da_Czar why doesn't 2K publish a strategy guide for this deep game of basketball?

RIght now we put every single ounce of energy into making the game. I would love to include more teaching etc even inside the game but every decision we make to do something means by default we are deciding NOT to do something else.

Maybe in future when more of the fundamentals are locked down but for now every available moment is put into improving and testing the product.

Also this is my personal response I don't know what the "official" response to his actually is. LOL.

# 236 LeBronistheKing @ 09/06/15 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Da_Czar


	No. You can manually manuver but no explicit gameplay mechanic. We need to do that right or it's an exploit waiting to happen.

It would be nice to have that be a badge or linked to your ball handling rating. Players like Dwyane Wade should have the badge or a specific type of animation for splitting the double team. Where as LeBron should be able to on rare occasions split double teams but more so in a way where he throws the ball in front of him through the double team almost out of control. LeBron never splits double teams the same under control way that Wade can. It's always a little sloppy and he usually doesn't keep his dribble after splitting the trap. Usually he just picks it up gathers and finishes.

# 237 Da_Czar @ 09/06/15 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 2_headedmonster


	So we are not in control of any of these new adjustments at all?

You can turn it of and control how your team plays on yourself. Remember we build this to run the AI. We give you access to it through the coach AI adjustments.

# 238 Da_Czar @ 09/06/15 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rjohns23


	As a 100% Myleague player, according to your response, for example, the LA Clippers will always play like the LA Clippers no matter the coach in regard to ACE? I know in previous games, the playbooks stay with the coach, I assuming that will still be the same this year. and just to be clear are you saying that ACE is hard coded for each team? If I do 30 team control , can I change a teams ACE philosophy/scheme during my Myleague?

Ok. lets try to clear this up.
Playbooks are still tied to the coach. The ACE gameplan is tied to the team.

Each team does have default gameplan's that cover situations where the team is completely different. Obviously those are more general than the specific stuff we can setup for known lineups etc.

# 239 Da_Czar @ 09/06/15 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rjohns23


	Interesting. I wonder, from a myleague perspective, will there be tab/slider that allows you to adjust each team's offensive freelance. Not during the game, but as a coaching plan/strategy. I'm thinking it has more to with "in game "in regard to freelance strategy. I just don't want to be 8 years into Myleague and the clippers have two back to the basket bigs that don't like to run and run, but the "team" still plays to that style as opposed to slowing it down lol... But as I said 2K is heading in the right direction!

You can not manually assign freelance or ACE inside of Myleague. We would have needed to redo a lot of front end and that just was not an option. Realize it is not ideal but that was a far as we could take it.

I mentioned earlier that each Teams ACE does have default gameplans that can adjust for different lineups based on types of players. It is not as specific as the known gameplans but it should still be effective.

# 240 Da_Czar @ 09/06/15 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BluFu


	(Czar correct me if I'm wrong here) but i remember them saying the ACE can adjust to what type of personnel is on the floor. So if the strength of the lineup is shooting, the AI will look for shooters. Or if it's posting up, then the AI will look to feed the post.

IF there is not a known lineup on the floor then yes it can detect certain lineup types and run with default gameplans to cater the offense towards those players.

It will run plays for the top 3 touches on the floor. Or if it detects a jump shooting lineup run motion or freelance offense. So it's not as intelligent as a real person but we tried to cover as much general lineup types are we are likely to see.

Obviously your feedback will be paramount in determining how much we need to add in future as far as coverage.

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