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Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

01:54 PM - July 30, 2014 by Steve_OS

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EA Sports is currently livestreaming Madden NFL 15, detailing the presentation and graphics. (Note: As of 3:30 PM EST, the stream has now ended. We'll effort an archived version soon!)

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Here are some thoughts on the stream today:

The halftime show is definitely improved and of good quality. The problem will be most will find it perfectly skippable, but there aren't any real cases where a halftime show is must-see TV, even in real-life. It's sponsored by Verizon, so there's that.
Commentary was ok, you didn't hear much of it due to the dev commentary over the gameplay, but it seemed to flow a bit better. We won't know anything about that until a later date.
Coaches have unique body types and head models, so they do look better. Coaches we saw today (Reid, Tomlin mainly) were definitely a step up.
Celebrations and such definitely are smoother/more aware of the context they're happening in since they happen within the gameplay itself and not a loaded cut-scene. Still some wonky instances but overall better.
The developers talked about equipment a bit. The new uniforms for each team are going to be in, and uniform/helmet degradation are in as well.
Switching of cameras was very smooth, definitely a huge improvement there.
Sidelines are much busier now, more people on them, etc. They still don't look perfect, but from where we were to where we are now, huge improvement.
Overall the presentation is quite good in-game this year, it definitely has a new layer of polish on it that wasn't there last year. It's not perfect, but clearly its taken yet another leap ahead this season.

What did you think of the stream?

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# 401 DNMHIII @ 08/02/14 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	That's what the problem is, people aren't allowed to have their own opinion on here unless it goes along with the majority. If that other game didn't have Berman and espn I can easily see M15's being as good if not better.

let's not be overly dramatic. Everyone here is allowed to have their own opinion and you of all people exercise that right continually. Not everyone agrees on the quality of the Madden title and there shouldn't be any surprise in that.

# 402 jpdavis82 @ 08/02/14 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DNMHIII


	let's not be overly dramatic. Everyone here is allowed to have their own opinion and you of all people exercise that right continually. Not everyone agrees on the quality of the Madden title and there shouldn't be any surprise in that.

I agree but that poster said he can't see how it's even subject to opinion.

# 403 DNMHIII @ 08/02/14 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	I agree but that poster said he can't see how it's even subject to opinion.

Well it appears that you both have very opinionated views doesn't it.

# 404 Kramer5150 @ 08/02/14 08:07 PM

I'm probably showing my age here....but for some reason this sticks out in my mind.

"It takes more than a coat of paint to make it at thunder road"

# 405 MajorSupreme @ 08/02/14 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	That's what the problem is, people aren't allowed to have their own opinion on here unless it goes along with the majority. If that other game didn't have Berman and espn I can easily see M15's being as good if not better.

But there's the problem! The other game had Berman and ESPN. We know EA has both of those resources (ESPN ability and broadcast commentator availability). EA could go above and beyond, not just with a half time show, but so much more presentation-wise.

# 406 AmericasTeam @ 08/02/14 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DNMHIII


	let's not be overly dramatic. Everyone here is allowed to have their own opinion and you of all people exercise that right continually. Not everyone agrees on the quality of the Madden title and there shouldn't be any surprise in that.

Yeah, everyone posts their own opinion here, but if you post something too positive your raked through the coals for pages. If you post a negative opinion, you get thanked and high fived like there's no tomorrow. Guess misery loves company.

There was a comment yesterday I think about how they couldn't believe the devs weren't monitoring this thread to put out the fire. They do monitor this thread, but if anyone on here were a dev, would they want their presence known? I know I wouldn't. I'm not a dev, and can't stand to read this forum the majority of the time. The negativity here is just ridiculous. Some is warranted, but some of it is most certainly not.

I'm an older gamer. I loved 2K5 and still have it. I've hated on EA probably more than most here. I want competition and want this game to improve quickly. The sad thing is, some can't give credit where it's due. This game looks to be a ton better than 25 (still has many issues).

I had a friend comment on something about Madden 15 the other day. It was a total ignorant statement. I immediately asked him if he'd been to OS. He quickly responded yes. I said, don't bother to visit the forum if you want to know anything but mostly biased opinions and false agendas. This doesn't mean everyone that has issues with the game. I have plenty. However, I do like what I'm seeing from 15. Will the upgrades give me more than my usual 2 weeks worth of play before I hate the game? Hopefully, but I won't know until its in my hands.

Rant over. I'm sure there are some that will want to bring the torches and pitchforks. That's fine. I have an opinion like anyone else, and I won't sway, rollover, or get pushed around because of it.

# 407 FBall Life @ 08/02/14 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	I agree but that poster said he can't see how it's even subject to opinion.

2+2=4

Let's use that as a baseline for the argument.

That other game had replays, many replays, from beginning to end using a broadcast camera angle. There was also commentary breaking down the individual stats for each team.

Those two things...those two simple things...are not in Madden 15. In Madden 15 you have zoomed in replays that don't show you the full development of a play. You don't have commentary going over the stats for each team.

That's what videogame football halftime shows consist of. Highlights and stat analysis. And EA still hasn't gotten there yet.

See? I took opinion out of it and just compared both halftime shows using factual information. 2+2=4 is not subject to opinion, just as the comparisons made above were done so using facts, not subject to opinion.

The original poster I quoted, it may be his opinion that "less is more". He's entitled to that opinion. But factually speaking, that other game is much more accurate to a real broadcast because of the things mentioned earlier.

That's the long explanation of something that I thought was pretty self explanatory when I originally posted...

# 408 SageInfinite @ 08/02/14 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericasTeam


	Yeah, everyone posts their own opinion here, but if you post something too positive your raked through the coals for pages. If you post a negative opinion, you get thanked and high fived like there's no tomorrow. Guess misery loves company. There was a comment yesterday I think about how they couldn't believe the devs weren't monitoring this thread to put out the fire. They do monitor this thread, but if anyone on here were a dev, would they want their presence known? I know I wouldn't. I'm not a dev, and can't stand to read this forum the majority of the time. The negativity here is just ridiculous. Some is warranted, but some of it is most certainly not. I'm an older gamer. I loved 2K5 and still have it. I've hated on EA probably more than most here. I want competition and want this game to improve quickly. The sad thing is, some can't give credit where it's due. This game looks to be a ton better than 25 (still has many issues). I had a friend comment on something about Madden 15 the other day. It was a total ignorant statement. I immediately asked him if he'd been to OS. He quickly responded yes. I said, don't bother to visit the forum if you want to know anything but mostly biased opinions and false agendas. This doesn't mean everyone that has issues with the game. I have plenty. However, I do like what I'm seeing from 15. Will the upgrades give me more than my usual 2 weeks worth of play before I hate the game? Hopefully, but I won't know until its in my hands. Rant over. I'm sure there are some that will want to bring the torches and pitchforks. That's fine. I have an opinion like anyone else, and I won't sway, rollover, or get pushed around because of it.

Just go check the thread for the first live stream they did and see how negative and biased it was. A majority of the posters here don't have agendas. When the devs do right by us, they get the credit. When we see something we don't like we don't sugar coat it. That's just how it is here. People on this site don't "hate" Madden as much as people think.

# 409 oneamongthefence @ 08/02/14 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FaceMask


	Agreed. The graphics are just plain nuts. Can't argue with that. But that makes you wonder even more why the heck they WOULDN'T want to have more tight shots on the players. Why in the heck would they NOT want to show off something that looks that incredible??? I just don't know.

Except Tom Brady's arm is obviously painted half blue lol. I'm glad Peyton has a really good face scan this year. Shadows look nice really makes everything look more organic and lifelike.

# 410 AmericasTeam @ 08/02/14 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SageInfinite


	Just go check the thread for the first live stream they did and see how negative and biased it was. A majority of the posters here don't have agendas. When the devs do right by us, they get the credit. When we see something we don't like we don't sugar coat it. That's just how it is here. People on this site don't "hate" Madden as much as people think.

I agree. Most don't have an agenda, but the way most issues are presented are not helpful or constructive. You don't have to sugarcoat to have your voice heard. With the state of the Madden forum, there is absolutely no way for us to be taken seriously by the dev team.

# 411 videlsports @ 08/02/14 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FaceMask


	You don't mind that they disappear too fast to be read?

It stays up a pretty good time ImO maybe 2 more seconds,but in both games it stayed up long to me

# 412 DNMHIII @ 08/02/14 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericasTeam


	I agree. Most don't have an agenda, but the way most issues are presented are not helpful or constructive. You don't have to sugarcoat to have your voice heard. With the state of the Madden forum, there is absolutely no way for us to be taken seriously by the dev team.

In all fairness though, I think some people including myself have a hard time taking the Madden team seriously after the last 6+ years of spinning in circles while other sport titles continue to progress at what I consider a more aggressive pace.

I actually couldn't care less if the Madden Devs take me seriously, I just want them to make a great football game.

# 413 SageInfinite @ 08/02/14 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericasTeam


	I agree. Most don't have an agenda, but the way most issues are presented are not helpful or constructive. You don't have to sugarcoat to have your voice heard. With the state of the Madden forum, there is absolutely no way for us to be taken seriously by the dev team.

We're already taken seriously by the dev team. Rex has made several posts here and says the team reads everything. There are plenty of helpful and constructive posts and posters here. We all see and interpret things the way we want to though.

# 414 charter04 @ 08/02/14 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericasTeam


	I agree. Most don't have an agenda, but the way most issues are presented are not helpful or constructive. You don't have to sugarcoat to have your voice heard. With the state of the Madden forum, there is absolutely no way for us to be taken seriously by the dev team.

Not true at all. Rex made mention of things that have been on OS forums. They read the forums. They take notice. They are just mature enough to sift through some trolling and get the constructive stuff.

# 415 jmurphy31 @ 08/03/14 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	That's what the problem is, people aren't allowed to have their own opinion on here unless it goes along with the majority. If that other game didn't have Berman and espn I can easily see M15's being as good if not better.

I don't think it mattered that berman or espn were slapped on it. Look at the announcing team. It had two studio actors and it was pretty solid. I think people liked the halftime show because of the set up of it. It looked like TV.

And as I stated earlier in the thread people combine the halftime show with the weekly sports center show and that's where it's better than Madden. Just due to the fact that madden does not have a weekly show at all nor less one that includes scores, highlights, injury updates, draft info, etc

# 416 jmurphy31 @ 08/03/14 07:10 AM

Also, not sure how others feel but in cfm if the halftime show doesn't include other scores I would rather have a weekly recap show than a halftime one.

# 417 NicVirtue @ 08/03/14 12:43 PM

I think once they scrap their animation system and completely re-do with natural, more human like movement that looks like players have weight, and aren't hovering on the grass, then Madden will be where it needs to be for a current gen football game. Until then, it won't be, because they keep putting band-aids on a broken leg.

# 418 SageInfinite @ 08/03/14 01:29 PM

Gotta be something huge holding them back if the animations haven't been fixed/upgraded. It's not like they don't know they are a problem. If they recognized us talking about WR/DB interaction, they HAVE to know how much people harp on the animation quality and interaction.

Just strange that they're moving away from the sig qb styles and animations while keeping the same awful looking stuff that has been in the game.

# 419 Millennium @ 08/03/14 01:55 PM

I'm going to state this once, and once alone:

Everyone is allowed to have an opinion on what they see. NOBODY is wrong. You may disagree with an opinion. But NOBODY is going to come in here and start telling anyone else that their opinion is fact. Not going to happen.

Be respectful to each other and to each person's opinions. You want to discuss the validity of a point, fine. But if I see anyone passing their own opinion as fact again, you're gone.

I've had enough.

# 420 jfsolo @ 08/03/14 02:02 PM

The philosophical schism that exists between EA and a large percentage of posters here when it comes to presentation, will never be mended. EA(The Brass) doesn't want people to forget that they're playing a video game, ever. Keeping the brand in the forefront of the gamer mind seems to be one of EA's core tenets. I'm playing Madden Football by Electronic Arts. is what they want people to always be thinking, not I'm playing an unbelievably authentic NFL Football simulation.

Now those things don't have to be mutually exclusive, but it is obvious that many of their design decisions put the brand ahead of true representation of the sport. Not every Publisher and or Developer thinks that way, but this one does.

The animation issue is more a head scratcher. It's seems to be lack of talent or lack of resource allocation.

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