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Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

01:54 PM - July 30, 2014 by Steve_OS

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EA Sports is currently livestreaming Madden NFL 15, detailing the presentation and graphics. (Note: As of 3:30 PM EST, the stream has now ended. We'll effort an archived version soon!)

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Here are some thoughts on the stream today:

The halftime show is definitely improved and of good quality. The problem will be most will find it perfectly skippable, but there aren't any real cases where a halftime show is must-see TV, even in real-life. It's sponsored by Verizon, so there's that.
Commentary was ok, you didn't hear much of it due to the dev commentary over the gameplay, but it seemed to flow a bit better. We won't know anything about that until a later date.
Coaches have unique body types and head models, so they do look better. Coaches we saw today (Reid, Tomlin mainly) were definitely a step up.
Celebrations and such definitely are smoother/more aware of the context they're happening in since they happen within the gameplay itself and not a loaded cut-scene. Still some wonky instances but overall better.
The developers talked about equipment a bit. The new uniforms for each team are going to be in, and uniform/helmet degradation are in as well.
Switching of cameras was very smooth, definitely a huge improvement there.
Sidelines are much busier now, more people on them, etc. They still don't look perfect, but from where we were to where we are now, huge improvement.
Overall the presentation is quite good in-game this year, it definitely has a new layer of polish on it that wasn't there last year. It's not perfect, but clearly its taken yet another leap ahead this season.

What did you think of the stream?

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# 381 hanzsomehanz @ 08/01/14 11:11 PM

While I was never one of the lot that was eager to make this title a pre-order or day1 purchase, you do have some things to consider looking forward to.

1. Evaluate the gameplay from EA GameChangers when they receive their retail copies early

2. The first live stream was from Practice Mode and would have never matched gameplay from Exhibition or CFM

In respect to #2, it was Rex and RG at the helm in the first one which lends a possibility that they modified the sliders in furtherance to using All-Pro in an effort to enhance and showcase certain features.

When we see how the game plays from the hands of the very tourney players we should be able to make a better assesment of how the game will look and play out the box and how over/under cooked the slider effects will be by default.

It may very well turn out that you need to modify sliders to get close to the gameplay Rex and RG were showcasing.

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# 382 Darth Aegis @ 08/02/14 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by hanzsomehanz


	While I was never one of the lot that was eager to make this title a pre-order or day1 purchase, you do have some things to consider looking forward to. 1. Evaluate the gameplay from EA GameChangers when they receive their retail copies early 2. The first live stream was from Practice Mode and would have never matched gameplay from Exhibition or CFM In respect to #2, it was Rex and RG at the helm in the first one which lends a possibility that they modified the sliders in furtherance to using All-Pro in an effort to enhance and showcase certain features. When we see how the game plays from the hands of the very tourney players we should be able to make a better assesment of how the game will look and play out the box and how over/under cooked the slider effects will be by default. It may very well turn out that you need to modify sliders to get close to the gameplay Rex and RG were showcasing. Sent from my SGH-I727R using Tapatalk

Actually in the first stream they played a exhibition game Chargers @ Denver up until halftime after practice mode, but I get what your saying.

# 383 strawberryshortcake @ 08/02/14 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	This is just the beginning, Brian said he ultimately wants to see the nfl start to copy off of Madden's presentation. Obviously we are nowhere near that now, but it gives you an idea of his vision for presentation.

//I'm a little ticked not because of Madden right now, but because the Oakland A's lost again tonight. World Series aspirations, give me a break. Good to great pitching but can't hit to score a single run. End Rant.//Trickle rant...

Does everyone prior to working for team Madden sign an agreement that says it's Madden's way or the highway? Is there a Madden black handbook that says we need to reinvent the wheel to try and out do the NFL.

jpdavis, please send Brian a twitter message asking why would he want the NFL to copy Madden's presentation package where everything looks the same after multiple games, where the statistics flashes on and off the screen so incredibly quick where the gamer can't digest the numbers unless they're speed reading, where the replays don't show how the plays are developed, where the halftime highlights are tight and zoomed and can't see how the plays were developed, where the coaches gets a ridiculous amount of screen time, not giving fans their appropriate screen time, no screen time for when (or if) players run off and on the field during substitutions, no screen time for sideline players, no screen time for dejected players sitting on the sideline benches when they're being dominated by the opposition team, no screen time for the winning teams benches when the game is basically a wrap, etc.. why isn't the halftime show inside a studio .... etc.

sorry for the 'rant,' the Oakland A's bats are incredibly frustrating.

# 384 jpdavis82 @ 08/02/14 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by FaceMask


	He said that? Really? If that's exactly what he said then it's officially time to worry about Brian Murray. Why? Because if you remember, that's the EXACT same nonsense Phil Frazier said about his vision of Madden 09. This can't be happening. All I can do is laugh. They've got two guys on the team with heavy NFL shooting credentials and their vision is to shoot games in a way that's NOT like the way an NFL game is shot? And then they spend all marketing cycle telling you it is when we can point to actual NFL games showing it isn't? I think the bizarre nature of Madden's development keeps me interested more than the actual game itself.

So Phil Frazier and Brian Murray are the same now? Lol

Murray actually has the credentials to pull it off. Brian was the senior cinematographer of NFL films, he knows the nfl in a way that Phil never did. To compare the two is an insult to Brian. Brian wants to deliver an experience that is like a perfect mix of broadcast and being at the game in person. He talks about shooting the game in the same way he would and at the same time, having the cameras follow the action in a way that resonates with what people see on Sundays. One example he gave was the camera used to follow the ball from the beginning of the play vs now, they pick the camera angle based on where the ball ends. He said the old way didn't make sense and was nothing like what you see on TV. This is a quote from one interview with Brian.

Murray: You have to respect the fans and [most] of them, see it from a couch or a chair on a Sunday. You have to respect the broadcast. If you put the disk in and someone saw just an NFL films version of it, it would resonate, but they would miss something. So we had to do a hybrid. We did camera angles and editing and pacing from a cinematic style that I directed, but you also have to respect the broadcasts.
As far as audio goes, it's twofold. You're in the world like you're at the game. You want to hear if I'm Steeler's and its third quarter, I want to hear "Oh Mama" from Styx. I need to hear that to feel like I'm actually at the game. Or you're the Patriots and you just scored a touchdown, you want those muskets going off as you kick.
The confusion is that there is another wall there. You're also kind of watching the broadcast. We had to balance what is actually happening in the world, what you would hear if you were there, and what you would hear in the broadcast: the sweeping music, commentary, halftime shows. It's a balance and obviously audio is huge for us. We have an original composer this year, Mark Petrie, and he's absolutely amazing. Me and my group would give him a template of what we're looking for, anything. 'Well I want daft punk with m83 meets dark knight' and you cram them together and you work it out. That's the way were telling the audio stories.

I'm not saying he will pull it off but he has the knowledge and connections with the NFL to make it happen.

# 385 Quint75 @ 08/02/14 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cutler23


	Yeah I don't get it either, just bad. They should probably never do a stream without Rex EVER! After seeing this stream my fear is that the AI wont really use the new defensive features. And it only will be useful for the tourney guys and human vs human. For guys like me who don't play online could be a bad deal. When that dude was the jags and he ran it to the outside for 10 yards without no one even close scares me. I know it was right before half and normally you would be calling a pass, but it looked way to easy. The de was not protecting the edge like they showed in the 1st stream

This X 1000. I think you nailed it. The AI will not use all of the moves that the user has at their disposal on defense and the single player experience is going to be much worse for it.

Wasn't the first stream a user vs. user game? And both games on the second stream user vs. CPU?

At least we have seen the AI make some nice plays as the ball carrier but I am very worried by what we saw in this last stream and I find it very hard to believe that is was an older build than the first stream. Again, the main difference seems to be that it was a user vs. user game.

And again, as I said earlier, I am surprised and worried that no one from EA, Rex included, has not attempted to quell the panic on the forum. I am sure they are aware. Rex specifically mentioned OS in the first stream.

# 386 Quint75 @ 08/02/14 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jaynral


	here is my theory.....This stream is a older build because they only wanted to show off the graphics and presentation and the newer build is still being worked on. It has to and better be the right theory!!!

Here we go again. This happens every year. See my post a few back.

# 387 SmashMan @ 08/02/14 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	So Phil Frazier and Brian Murray are the same now? Lol

Nobody said that. He said they said the same thing about wanting the NFL to (in the future) take presentation cues from Madden, which they did.

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	Murray actually has the credentials to pull it off. Brian was the senior cinematographer of NFL films, he knows the nfl in a way that Phil never did. To compare the two is an insult to Brian.

I'm unclear as to why you can't make your point without putting down the old team.

# 388 Step2001 @ 08/02/14 05:33 AM

Presentation? I watched (could not hear the audio) when JAX QB, Chad Henne came onto the field. Visually there was nothing special. No player stats pop-up of stats from last season or (if in CFM week #2) stats from week #1. Looking for In-Depth Presentation that builds on itself in CFM.

Based on that, I take it that non-High Profiled QB's will get a generic entrance?

Halftime is vague, saying certain players name(s), but just saying the team(s) name when a play was made.
This does not bode well for CFM as you get into your 'chise and the new players enter into the league and become the faces of the league.

Where are the Scores & News from around the League? NCAA 13 & 14 had this without Highlights & done well I thought.

It does not sit well with me the Players Injuries are not mentioned During Opening Audio. I would think it would be in the area of Keys to the game & the Injured Player(s) replacement(s). I can do a walk through on how it should be done as per TV broadcast.

I don't know what we the consumers can do, as the suggestions from the wish-list are filled with great ideas across the board.
EA pointed out, based on their own research, that Offline/Franchise/CFM is the preference of those who purchase Madden. I have no idea why then the Mode is not more in-depth than it is?

This is not about Game-play, we all are encouraged at what we see. Yeah, I read the concerns about the CPU not fully utilizing all the new stuff on Defense, Offense & Practice/XP for the CPU Players. We'll see when OS'ers get their hands on the game.

It's still a wait and see when the CFM News is revealed. My Expectation are high, I won't lower them. 8 Man Practice Squad, 46 Man Game-Day Roster (NFL Head Coach 09 had this), Injuries (Wear & Tear), Off-Season/Free Agency/NFL Draft/Hall of Fame etc etc. etc.

IF my expectations are not met, then I'll just wait for Madden 15 to be patched (always needs a patch or two) & post in the Madden 16 Wish-List again.

I'm still playing Madden 25 & the MLB The Show 14 on the PS4, I enjoy it.

# 389 jpdavis82 @ 08/02/14 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMan


	Nobody said that. He said they said the same thing about wanting the NFL to (in the future) take presentation cues from Madden, which they did. I'm unclear as to why you can't make your point without putting down the old team.

The bottom line is the previous teams failed. Everyone wants to bring up the failures of Madden in the past ad nausea but someone was at fault. This team has to surpass what they did in a BIG way. This team will be judged on their delivery of their promises, the previous teams did not deliver.

# 390 SageInfinite @ 08/02/14 11:10 AM

Personally I hate the hybrid presentation approach. I'd rather it be broadcast for reg games, and the on field experience for superstar/coach modes. That hybrid approach is just corny to me. Or just give us the option for people who like on field, people who like broadcast give that to us.

# 391 Indyboy180 @ 08/02/14 11:36 AM

I'm in the camp that has this being an older build of the game while the one with Rex and Co. was the near completion stream. We'll see what shows up for the next livestream.

# 392 Cowboy008 @ 08/02/14 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Indyboy180


	I'm in the camp that has this being an older build of the game while the one with Rex and Co. was the near completion stream. We'll see what shows up for the next livestream.

But why would they go from showing a game that was near completion to showing an older build of the game? It makes no sense

# 393 Indyboy180 @ 08/02/14 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy008


	But why would they go from showing a game that was near completion to showing an older build of the game? It makes no sense

Wishful thinking on my part but I mean maybe they needed to show something and they didn't have the better gameplay built in to the build with the up to date presentation but that makes no sense at all typing it.

# 394 Darth Aegis @ 08/02/14 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Indyboy180


	Wishful thinking on my part but I mean maybe they needed to show something and they didn't have the better gameplay built in to the build with the up to date presentation but that makes no sense at all typing it.

This is what I'm holding out hope for, but with none of the guys coming out and not saying anything tends to make me nervous about the game. In the first stream I was seeing different animations although they were pointing them out in replay you could tell they changed things. There was pile ups when guys were getting tackled, bodies flying everywhere and attempted reach tackles. The incomplete pass play to the sideline were the WR reached for the errant pass from Cam I think, but missed, that looked great. I didn't see nothing like this in stream 2, it looks like Madden 25 and no one has the new player sense 2.0. Gameplay just seemed flat and boring, but then again it could have been the guys playing the sticks.

# 395 videlsports @ 08/02/14 03:12 PM

I'm a 2k Guy, but I have Give Credit where credit is DUE.. EA did a WONDERFUL JOB I love the stat Banners, I LOVE THE REAL TIME ANIMATIONS ON THE POST PLAY.

# 396 videlsports @ 08/02/14 03:19 PM

I have to EA Credit, this year MADDEN is on point Presentation wise. I love the Graphics, and my Favorite is the post play celebrations.
The commentary will not be like peter o keith and Dan stevens, But I like Phil Simms.

Im sorry I disagree with most of the Community . I LOVE THE HALFTIME SHOW.. YES EA YOU NAILED IT it's just like it was 10 years ago on another GAME. (AND I'm a 2k GUY). BUT people will be upset because you are not using ESPN which I think you should though.. YOU Have CBS and ESPN, IT's Now time to use them Monday night Games, Gruden and Tirico, Sundays, Simms and Nantz next year. BUT I Love the halftime show. Pre order day 1

# 397 FBall Life @ 08/02/14 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by videlsports


	I have to EA Credit, this year MADDEN is on point Presentation wise. I love the Graphics, and my Favorite is the post play celebrations. The commentary will not be like peter o keith and Dan stevens, But I like Phil Simms. Im sorry I disagree with most of the Community . I LOVE THE HALFTIME SHOW.. YES EA YOU NAILED IT it's just like it was 10 years ago on another GAME. (AND I'm a 2k GUY). BUT people will be upset because you are not using ESPN which I think you should though.. YOU Have CBS and ESPN, IT's Now time to use them Monday night Games, Gruden and Tirico, Sundays, Simms and Nantz next year. BUT I Love the halftime show. Pre order day 1

You can't honestly think this halftime show comes anywhere near that other game, right? Right? Seriously now... Not trying to bash your opinion, but I don't see how this is even subject to opinion. That other game, factually, has a much better halftime show than Madden 15.

# 398 breakinggood @ 08/02/14 06:13 PM

Has the game gone gold yet?

# 399 jpdavis82 @ 08/02/14 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FBall Life


	You can't honestly think this halftime show comes anywhere near that other game, right? Right? Seriously now... Not trying to bash your opinion, but I don't see how this is even subject to opinion. That other game, factually, has a much better halftime show than Madden 15.

That's what the problem is, people aren't allowed to have their own opinion on here unless it goes along with the majority. If that other game didn't have Berman and espn I can easily see M15's being as good if not better.

# 400 jbd345 @ 08/02/14 06:23 PM

What happened to the "montages" that were supposed to happen as the game progressed, it has me a little consurned those might have gotten cut. Granted we only saw one half of each game though.

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