11:49 AM - October 18, 2013 by Steve_OSEA Sports today released the first gameplay trailer for NBA Live 14, which features snippets of gameplay action.
What do you think about the trailer?
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11:49 AM - October 18, 2013 by Steve_OSEA Sports today released the first gameplay trailer for NBA Live 14, which features snippets of gameplay action.
What do you think about the trailer?
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Had another look. There's a few things to really like, and a ton that is really bad.
Like everyone says, the dribbling animations look nice. Some of it very nice. Unfortunately most of it is in place, but the Kyrie E3 demo looked decent so it should look good although we have no idea how it actually feels or what happens when you use less-than-perfectly timed controls.
It will be the one thing 2K fans will be jealous of if 2K has done absolutely no work in that department (they've shown little defense or dribbling in their trailers, strangely, though I'm not that worried). That's saying something.
On the other end, on-ball defensive animations look horrible. Curry was going spastic. There is no general foot-planting technology in this game or it's broken. It looks worse than cur-gen 2K on that end.
However, that pivot by Felton as he tried to catch up to Kyrie looked quite good. Too bad they cut away from that "5v5" footage after 1.5 seconds probably before something else bad or jerky showed up.
A few jumpshots look great. Melo's mainly. Most look pretty terrible.
Anyway, looks like there could actually be a game in here. Not necessarily a good one, but something to build from.
Also when dunks are the least impressive and most awkward looking things in your trailer, you've done something wrong.
Like everyone says, the dribbling animations look nice. Some of it very nice. Unfortunately most of it is in place, but the Kyrie E3 demo looked decent so it should look good although we have no idea how it actually feels or what happens when you use less-than-perfectly timed controls.
It will be the one thing 2K fans will be jealous of if 2K has done absolutely no work in that department (they've shown little defense or dribbling in their trailers, strangely, though I'm not that worried). That's saying something.
On the other end, on-ball defensive animations look horrible. Curry was going spastic. There is no general foot-planting technology in this game or it's broken. It looks worse than cur-gen 2K on that end.
However, that pivot by Felton as he tried to catch up to Kyrie looked quite good. Too bad they cut away from that "5v5" footage after 1.5 seconds probably before something else bad or jerky showed up.
A few jumpshots look great. Melo's mainly. Most look pretty terrible.
Anyway, looks like there could actually be a game in here. Not necessarily a good one, but something to build from.
Also when dunks are the least impressive and most awkward looking things in your trailer, you've done something wrong.
I was impressed with the trailer. I thought the dribbling was pretty amazing to say the least. I looked just like D-Will when he was dribbling. I love the signature elements, Timmy had his bank shot, Kobe had the signature fade-away, Melo with the quick shutter-step and shot, Danny Green with a nice shot as well. Some Elements that I saw that stood out to me from the trailer: Fast-Breaks, in Live 10 there was no fast breaking in the game and it was simply a half-court game, I saw a couple of fast-breaks in the trailer which is a great thing, second was the move by Kobe, in Live 10, there was only one turnaround shot for everybody in the game which was horrible, it seems like that has been addressed. I didn't like some of the jerky movements and that some of the dunks still seem like rocket dunks. Visual it's sharp but the color scheme is whats killing the overall look of the game, the art team should go for a more realistic color scheme.
In the end, I saw more positives then negatives in the trailer. It's great to have two basketball games again this year.
In the end, I saw more positives then negatives in the trailer. It's great to have two basketball games again this year.
I just don't understand how a rational person could look at those 2 videos and think the NBA Live trailer is even close to the other. I don't even play these basketball games very much. I wasn't planning on buying an NBA next gen game. I probably will now after seeing the 2K trailer. Just look at it. Looks real. Live is not even in the same ballpark. Here are some things I noticed.
The D. Rose move to basket looks awkward. Why does his head kinda look towards his defender the whole way? It's like he's got a "crick" in his neck. Plus his facial expression is not natural. The Damon Lillard closeup. His face is weird, plus his jersey is standing up off the back of his shoulders like its on a hangar. What the heck? I've seen all these people talk about Melo's stutter step. Watch that part again. It's like he stops unnaturally and then shoots straight up. No momentum. Steve Nash, everyone knows about him, no need to beat his dead horse face into the ground.
I haven't followed this very closely but I do know the LIVE team has had multiple YEARS to produce a game that was ready for NEXT GEN. The graphics are not even close. The gameplay doesn't look close, but maybe they will show something later that proves that wrong. I'm all for NBA Live to be good. I wish it was and I had to make a difficult choice. Right now there is not even a choice. It's not close. 2k14 is next gen, Live is not.
The D. Rose move to basket looks awkward. Why does his head kinda look towards his defender the whole way? It's like he's got a "crick" in his neck. Plus his facial expression is not natural. The Damon Lillard closeup. His face is weird, plus his jersey is standing up off the back of his shoulders like its on a hangar. What the heck? I've seen all these people talk about Melo's stutter step. Watch that part again. It's like he stops unnaturally and then shoots straight up. No momentum. Steve Nash, everyone knows about him, no need to beat his dead horse face into the ground.
I haven't followed this very closely but I do know the LIVE team has had multiple YEARS to produce a game that was ready for NEXT GEN. The graphics are not even close. The gameplay doesn't look close, but maybe they will show something later that proves that wrong. I'm all for NBA Live to be good. I wish it was and I had to make a difficult choice. Right now there is not even a choice. It's not close. 2k14 is next gen, Live is not.
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wordtobigbird @ 10/18/13 05:52 PM
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"something has to be wrong with your eyes if you look at these two trailers and pick Live.." but I got blasted by a Mod for saying that haha..
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RipCityAndy @ 10/18/13 06:06 PM
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wordtobigbird @ 10/18/13 06:10 PM
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RipCityAndy @ 10/18/13 06:15 PM
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My question was how can you tell this from the two trailers? I just wanted some deeper explanation... it seemed like an odd word to use when describing the trailer... that's all.
looks decent!!! only real complaint is, why does the rim look so big!!!!
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GisherJohn24 @ 10/18/13 06:27 PM
Looks all right and I hope it's just fun. Seems to look and play like classic Live. I don't know why there is so much hate for Live, it might stem back to the Madden monopoly. EA makes great soccer, NHL and Golf games and they owned baseball when they made MVP.**I loved Live 08, 09 and especially Live 10. Was never a 2K killer, but a solid game, and that's all we could ever ask. Competition is good people. Regardless of your thoughts on EA, remember having more games out there makes the other guy work harder to make their game better...
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wordtobigbird @ 10/18/13 06:29 PM
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Reading the comments I was expecting some straight up bs! But I watched and have close to 0 complaints! I like everything except the hunched over defenders, everyone shouldn't be standing like that at all times, that's the only rediculous thing. Still I just can't say that gonna be that way for certain at all times I just don't know that to be fact. I need to see some up and down gameplay. What looked that bad?? I just don't get it? Like what did you really get to see enough of that just looked so bad is there to complain about?
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GisherJohn24 @ 10/18/13 06:29 PM
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RipCityAndy @ 10/18/13 06:30 PM
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Having also played a lot of EA Sports games, I can say that EA generally makes games that are more fun to play over a long period of time (again... my opinion... others will disagree).
So, when I see a new, fresh (albeit flawed looking) basketball game it gets me excited even though it may not have the pretty graphics that 2k has. Graphics only get you so far... Plus, I like the competition. We all (yes even those people that are physically hurt by this trailer) win if Live does well...
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GisherJohn24 @ 10/18/13 06:31 PM
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GisherJohn24 @ 10/18/13 06:32 PM
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Jet Sufferer @ 10/18/13 06:32 PM
Watched it a bunch of times, seems like big problems with the transitions in the animations, although some of the animations themselves looked smooth, like a dribbling sequence and Tim Duncan taking his signature banker.
The problem seems that when there's not a signature animation taking place there's a bunch of herky jerky movements going on, so I suspect the majority of the gameplay animations are going to look herky jerky. When you're playing normally with 10 guys running around with those herky jerky animation transitions the game is going to look a little funky, well a lot funky.
Graphically, if you told me that was current gen I wouldn't bat an eye, nor would I say WOW, they did THAT on PS3/360, not very visually impressive, but I really don't care that much about graphics if the game plays great.
Kind of curious though about what seems to be a disparity in quality of some of the player models, Steve Nash sequence his character could pass for a good PS2 graphical Nash. Some look better than others but just not seeing next gen, for instance you get a fairly close up look at Kyrie going up and I don't really see his muscularity/detail, etc., making me think that the game is going to look mostly like the Nash player model, kind of cartoony and lacking detail.
When the game is zoomed out it starts to really look ordinary, I will reserve judgement on the game itself when I play it.
What I suspect though is an easier pick up and play version of basketball with the focus on triggering a limited number of signature animations for those ooh and aah moments with the rest of the game animating not too well.
I think what they're trying to put together is a game just functional enough, just easy enough to play, with just enough OMG moments for the casual player to be able to enjoy with the larger focus being their Ultimate Team mode.
Make the game just fun/functional enough to get people addicted to Ultimate Team and make their money that way. I think they're going to leave the heavy sim market to 2K.
Based on that trailer there is no way I would buy that game day one, no way. I will red box it for a day or two to see how it plays and more than likely never touch it again, unless the gameplay is REALLY surprising. I'll let you know in a month.
The problem seems that when there's not a signature animation taking place there's a bunch of herky jerky movements going on, so I suspect the majority of the gameplay animations are going to look herky jerky. When you're playing normally with 10 guys running around with those herky jerky animation transitions the game is going to look a little funky, well a lot funky.
Graphically, if you told me that was current gen I wouldn't bat an eye, nor would I say WOW, they did THAT on PS3/360, not very visually impressive, but I really don't care that much about graphics if the game plays great.
Kind of curious though about what seems to be a disparity in quality of some of the player models, Steve Nash sequence his character could pass for a good PS2 graphical Nash. Some look better than others but just not seeing next gen, for instance you get a fairly close up look at Kyrie going up and I don't really see his muscularity/detail, etc., making me think that the game is going to look mostly like the Nash player model, kind of cartoony and lacking detail.
When the game is zoomed out it starts to really look ordinary, I will reserve judgement on the game itself when I play it.
What I suspect though is an easier pick up and play version of basketball with the focus on triggering a limited number of signature animations for those ooh and aah moments with the rest of the game animating not too well.
I think what they're trying to put together is a game just functional enough, just easy enough to play, with just enough OMG moments for the casual player to be able to enjoy with the larger focus being their Ultimate Team mode.
Make the game just fun/functional enough to get people addicted to Ultimate Team and make their money that way. I think they're going to leave the heavy sim market to 2K.
Based on that trailer there is no way I would buy that game day one, no way. I will red box it for a day or two to see how it plays and more than likely never touch it again, unless the gameplay is REALLY surprising. I'll let you know in a month.
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ScalettaVinci @ 10/18/13 06:34 PM
Cons:
- In NBA Live, the ignite engine isn't really giving me any life. The crowd is consistently fist pumping and jumping. Hopefully they don't do that if the home team is getting blown out.
- Besides on the opening of the trailer, help defense is non-existent. (Seems like you have to call a play in order for uncontrolled players to move)
- (In my opinion) Everyone on the court has bad posture, and run with a hunched back.
- Not sure if it was just for the trailer, but if this was actual 5v5 gameplay then some offenses didn't have all their players on the court. (Bulls DRose dunk & Heat DWade's dunk)
- Player Models aren't as horrible as others are making it out to be, but everyone does have the same build.
- Skin resembles a plastic texture.
- It's a slight pause between dribbling and the shot. Not really a fluid transition at all.
- (Not really picky over players' faces unlike some fans) But half of these players don't look close to the real person, but the number is the only thing that counts to me.
Pros:
- Dribbling is superior compared to 2k.
- Shooting animations are an upgrade.
- Stadiums look stunning, minus the crowd having 2 animations per person.
- A fan of the player sense. I like how Kyrie Irving senses the open man before tossing up the alley oop.
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Final thought: NBA Live seems more like an 1v1 type game. Doesn't look like it really involves the whole team. For it to be next generation gaming, the graphics are really basic.
- In NBA Live, the ignite engine isn't really giving me any life. The crowd is consistently fist pumping and jumping. Hopefully they don't do that if the home team is getting blown out.
- Besides on the opening of the trailer, help defense is non-existent. (Seems like you have to call a play in order for uncontrolled players to move)
- (In my opinion) Everyone on the court has bad posture, and run with a hunched back.
- Not sure if it was just for the trailer, but if this was actual 5v5 gameplay then some offenses didn't have all their players on the court. (Bulls DRose dunk & Heat DWade's dunk)
- Player Models aren't as horrible as others are making it out to be, but everyone does have the same build.
- Skin resembles a plastic texture.
- It's a slight pause between dribbling and the shot. Not really a fluid transition at all.
- (Not really picky over players' faces unlike some fans) But half of these players don't look close to the real person, but the number is the only thing that counts to me.
Pros:
- Dribbling is superior compared to 2k.
- Shooting animations are an upgrade.
- Stadiums look stunning, minus the crowd having 2 animations per person.
- A fan of the player sense. I like how Kyrie Irving senses the open man before tossing up the alley oop.
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Final thought: NBA Live seems more like an 1v1 type game. Doesn't look like it really involves the whole team. For it to be next generation gaming, the graphics are really basic.
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