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02:00 PM - September 25, 2012 by Beluba

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# 221 djsider2 @ 09/28/12 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blues rocker


	below is the quote from my earlier post in this tread - it should clear up the issue you're talking about: basically, the gist is: when you are driving or moving, only use LS. the 2 exceptions i have are the behind-the-back and hesitation moves - these are the only moves use RS for while driving or moving.

actually, this makes a lot of sense. Maybe thats why i crossover then go into the hesitation (LS causes crossover, but the following RS now goes ball hand so triggers hesitation instead of crossover). I'll try to focus on this in my next play session.

# 222 thilanwij @ 09/28/12 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeC


	Make sure you're in the triple threat position then point the right stick away from the basket. Don't move the left stick or you will start dribbling.

Don't forget that you will also need to be "smothered" by the defender, that one animation where he's all in ur grill, if you know what I mean.

# 223 blues rocker @ 09/28/12 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by djsider2


	actually, this makes a lot of sense. Maybe thats why i crossover then go into the hesitation (LS causes crossover, but the following RS now goes ball hand so triggers hesitation instead of crossover). I'll try to focus on this in my next play session.

that's exactly it. you've got it. once i understood that, the control started to feel amazing. i wish they would've been more clear about the left stick moves. they spent so much time talking about the right stick, they forgot to mention the left stick functionality and how it might conflict with the right stick.

i'm actually loving the automatic left stick crossovers, spins, and hesitations. it's nice to be able to do them without using a modifier button. they work so well that i find i don't even need the right stick a lot of the time.

# 224 rbillan @ 09/28/12 04:03 PM

Oh that sounds good and makes sense too. How do you feel of the difference between a LS crossover and a RS crossover? Any differences or one is better/faster then the other?

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Originally Posted by blues rocker


	below is the quote from my earlier post in this tread - it should clear up the issue you're talking about: basically, the gist is: when you are driving or moving, only use LS. the 2 exceptions i have are the behind-the-back and hesitation moves - these are the only moves use RS for while driving or moving.

# 225 RyanFitzmagic @ 09/28/12 04:10 PM

I thought right stick away from the basket started your dribble no matter what. No more "Hold ball away from defender" triple-threat move.

# 226 blues rocker @ 09/28/12 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rbillan


	Oh that sounds good and makes sense too. How do you feel of the difference between a LS crossover and a RS crossover? Any differences or one is better/faster then the other?

the left stick crossovers are a bit easier. they are quick and consistent, and they're easier since all you have to do is change direction and your player automatically does them. but, you can do some more explosive crossovers with the RS if you use it right.

# 227 rbillan @ 09/28/12 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blues rocker


	I actually think the left stick crossovers are much better. they are quick and consistent, and they're easier since all you have to do is change direction and your player automatically does them. to be honest, i would completely avoid doing crossovers with the RS while moving - there's no point to it, and it usually conflicts with the automatic LS crossover.

This discussion is going to help a lot, so hesitation then cross we should do hesitation with RS and then cross with LS and go? Also when are you guys using turbo if it all after u do a move or two?

# 228 blues rocker @ 09/28/12 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rbillan


	This discussion is going to help a lot, so hesitation then cross we should do hesitation with RS and then cross with LS and go?

yes, that's exactly right.

# 229 rbillan @ 09/28/12 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blues rocker


	yes, that's exactly right. i pretty much never use turbo once i'm moving. turbo does nothing once your player is already moving...as i mentioned in a post earlier in the thread - your player will speed up on his own when driving, so there's really no reason to use the turbo trigger at all.

Okay this is clearing up a lot of my questions, thanks for your help. So when your trying to get past your defender after doing a cross Turbo is not needed just use the LS to continue threw and just throw turbo in there if u got the lane for a dunk.

You have anything else to add about moves or combos that worked well for you using LS+RS?

# 230 blues rocker @ 09/28/12 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rbillan


	Okay this is clearing up a lot of my questions, thanks for your help. So when your trying to get past your defender after doing a cross Turbo is not needed just use the LS to continue threw and just throw turbo in there if u got the lane for a dunk.

yes, that is correct.

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Originally Posted by rbillan


	You have anything else to add about moves or combos that worked well for you using LS+RS?

not really. i'm still learning the more complex moves. but all you really need to remember is to use RS mostly just for stationary sizeups...then once you are moving, only use LS...except for behind-the-backs or hesitations, which you obviously need RS for.

# 231 thilanwij @ 09/28/12 04:40 PM

Thanks for the knowledge blues rocker, they're definitely helping me understand the dribbling system. Just reading thru these posts are helping a ton.

# 232 Beluba @ 09/28/12 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blues rocker


	Hey, Beluba. i've got a question kind of related to this - it's about the icon lead pass. the versatility of the lead pass has been greatly reduced after 2k11. you can no longer use it to make a stationary receiver move or cut - ever since 2k12, the lead pass only works to BARELY redirect a receiver who is already moving. what i liked about the lead passing in 2k11 was that you could make stationary receivers move and cut to open areas if they didn't move there on their own. the removal of this function is pretty frustrating to me - a lot of times i'll see an opening and want to lead my teammate to cut through it, so i'll try to lead him there like in 2k11, but instead he just stands in place when i pass to him...using the lead pass doesn't even change the placement of the pass if the receiver is standing still. the lead pass in 2k11 was overpowered because it made stationary receivers launch forward too quickly, but i would still like the ability move them around in a realistic way with lead pass. what was the reasoning for removing this functionality from the lead pass? was it a technical issue, or was it viewed as an exploit that needed to be removed? if it was done in a more realistic way, i don't see it as an exploit at all. it made the passing game a lot more fun...it gave you a lot more control over your offense and allowed you to create better passing angles. the improved teammate AI helps your teammates to make cuts on their own, but there are still many times when they fail to move to open areas...in these situations the old lead pass functionality would help greatly. please bring it back.

it wasn't removed... just toned down because a) it was an exploit and b) looked terrible. Our passing engineer spent time trying to improve it for 13, but to be honest, I don't really use it anymore.

# 233 rbillan @ 09/28/12 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blues rocker


	yes, that is correct. not really. i'm still learning the more complex moves. but all you really need to remember is to use RS mainly for stationary sizeups...then once you are moving, only use LS...except for behind-the-backs or hesitations, which you obviously need RS for.

Yeah makes sense now, i'm at work so won't be able to try it till later. Switching court sides was harder then I thought to control just because I was using Miami the whole time and when I went to try Oklahoma trying to get used to the sticks on the opposite end wasn't as easy . Are you gonna stick with these controls when the retail comes out or make any changes?

# 234 blues rocker @ 09/28/12 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by thilanwij


	Thanks for the knowledge blues rocker, they're definitely helping me understand the dribbling system. Just reading thru these posts are helping a ton.

no prob. glad to help. once i understood this stuff while playing last night, the control really started to feel good.

# 235 Beluba @ 09/28/12 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blues rocker


	that's exactly it. you've got it. once i understood that, the control started to feel amazing. i wish they would've been more clear about the left stick moves. they spent so much time talking about the right stick, they forgot to mention the left stick functionality and how it might conflict with the right stick. i'm actually loving the automatic left stick crossovers, spins, and hesitations. it's nice to be able to do them without using a modifier button. they work so well that i find i don't even need the right stick a lot of the time.

Yeah, you can be pretty effective with just LS on the move. You can even sizeup somewhat effectively with LS by tapping left and right. For me, I use Right Stick for ALL moves. The key is to let off LS as you input the RS move, allow the cross (or whatever move) to initiate, then immediately move the LS in the direction you want to move AFTER the ISO move is done. I don't even think about it anymore, it's just second nature. But whatever's working for you, by all means, stick with it. Like I've mentioned before, there are a lot of different ways to play 2K -- and no ONE right way. Once you have all the options exposed to you in the retail version, I'm convinced that everyone will find something that's comfortable for them.

# 236 blues rocker @ 09/28/12 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Beluba


	Yeah, you can be pretty effective with just LS on the move. You can even sizeup somewhat effectively with LS by tapping left and right. For me, I use Right Stick for ALL moves. The key is to let off LS as you input the RS move, allow the cross (or whatever move) to initiate, then immediately move the LS in the direction you want to move AFTER the ISO move is done. I don't even think about it anymore, it's just second nature. But whatever's working for you, by all means, stick with it. Like I've mentioned before, there are a lot of different ways to play 2K -- and no ONE right way. Once you have all the options exposed to you in the retail version, I'm convinced that everyone will find something that's comfortable for them.

yeah, the part in bold above is what needed to be cleared up. i think the confusion for a lot of people is that they didn't realize there would be automatic left stick crossovers. so people are trying to do crossovers with the right stick, but their player is already doing them automatically on the left stick, but a lot of people aren't aware that the left stick is what caused the crossover...so people are getting extra dribble hesitations that they didn't intend.

with that said, once i understood the function of the left stick moves, i grew to love the ease of them.

# 237 thilanwij @ 09/28/12 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blues rocker


	no prob. glad to help. once i understood this stuff while playing last night, the control really started to feel good.

Yeah, these controls will take some time to get used to. I saw a post below by you that mentioned total control passing. What exactly does that do? Is that the one where you pull up icon passing and you use the right stick to point to a direction to pass to? And does that have a certain advantage over other ways of passing? Just curious.

# 238 blues rocker @ 09/28/12 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thilanwij


	Yeah, these controls will take some time to get used to. I saw a post below by you that mentioned total control passing. What exactly does that do? Is that the one where you pull up icon passing and you use the right stick to point to a direction to pass to? And does that have a certain advantage over other ways of passing? Just curious.

You have to turn it on in the options menu. Total Control Passing allows you to take control of an off-ball player. Basically when you have it turned on, when you use icon passing, you hold down the icon button of the off-ball player you want to control. you keep the button held down to move him, then when you want to pass to him you release the button and you will make the pass. basically it's a way to move around off-ball players and make them cut. It was pretty sluggish in 2k12, so i didn't use it. EA had a decent version of it in Live 10 though. Maybe it's improved for 2k13 - i'll have to try it out in the full version.

# 239 Beluba @ 09/28/12 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by slick589


	So use the LS to drive before the RS animation finishes?

I typically start to push my LS in the middle of my dribble move or just after it starts. I use that split second to read the defense and react accordingly.

# 240 franzis @ 09/28/12 05:42 PM

Can someone confirm what "TPT", "CW" and "CWW" stand for? tks

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