NBA 2K13 Advanced Controls

[blues rocker]

Quote: Originally Posted by rbillan

Okay this is clearing up a lot of my questions, thanks for your help. So when your trying to get past your defender after doing a cross Turbo is not needed just use the LS to continue threw and just throw turbo in there if u got the lane for a dunk.

yes, that is correct.

Quote: Originally Posted by rbillan

You have anything else to add about moves or combos that worked well for you using LS+RS?

not really. i'm still learning the more complex moves. but all you really need to remember is to use RS mostly just for stationary sizeups...then once you are moving, only use LS...except for behind-the-backs or hesitations, which you obviously need RS for.

[thilanwij]

Thanks for the knowledge blues rocker, they're definitely helping me understand the dribbling system. Just reading thru these posts are helping a ton.

[Beluba]

Quote: Originally Posted by blues rocker

Hey, Beluba. i've got a question kind of related to this - it's about the icon lead pass. the versatility of the lead pass has been greatly reduced after 2k11. you can no longer use it to make a stationary receiver move or cut - ever since 2k12, the lead pass only works to BARELY redirect a receiver who is already moving. what i liked about the lead passing in 2k11 was that you could make stationary receivers move and cut to open areas if they didn't move there on their own. the removal of this function is pretty frustrating to me - a lot of times i'll see an opening and want to lead my teammate to cut through it, so i'll try to lead him there like in 2k11, but instead he just stands in place when i pass to him...using the lead pass doesn't even change the placement of the pass if the receiver is standing still. the lead pass in 2k11 was overpowered because it made stationary receivers launch forward too quickly, but i would still like the ability move them around in a realistic way with lead pass. what was the reasoning for removing this functionality from the lead pass? was it a technical issue, or was it viewed as an exploit that needed to be removed? if it was done in a more realistic way, i don't see it as an exploit at all. it made the passing game a lot more fun...it gave you a lot more control over your offense and allowed you to create better passing angles. the improved teammate AI helps your teammates to make cuts on their own, but there are still many times when they fail to move to open areas...in these situations the old lead pass functionality would help greatly. please bring it back.

it wasn't removed... just toned down because a) it was an exploit and b) looked terrible. Our passing engineer spent time trying to improve it for 13, but to be honest, I don't really use it anymore.

[rbillan]

Quote: Originally Posted by blues rocker

yes, that is correct. not really. i'm still learning the more complex moves. but all you really need to remember is to use RS mainly for stationary sizeups...then once you are moving, only use LS...except for behind-the-backs or hesitations, which you obviously need RS for.

Yeah makes sense now, i'm at work so won't be able to try it till later. Switching court sides was harder then I thought to control just because I was using Miami the whole time and when I went to try Oklahoma trying to get used to the sticks on the opposite end wasn't as easy . Are you gonna stick with these controls when the retail comes out or make any changes?

[blues rocker]

Quote: Originally Posted by thilanwij

Thanks for the knowledge blues rocker, they're definitely helping me understand the dribbling system. Just reading thru these posts are helping a ton.

no prob. glad to help. once i understood this stuff while playing last night, the control really started to feel good.

[Beluba]

Quote: Originally Posted by blues rocker

that's exactly it. you've got it. once i understood that, the control started to feel amazing. i wish they would've been more clear about the left stick moves. they spent so much time talking about the right stick, they forgot to mention the left stick functionality and how it might conflict with the right stick. i'm actually loving the automatic left stick crossovers, spins, and hesitations. it's nice to be able to do them without using a modifier button. they work so well that i find i don't even need the right stick a lot of the time.

Yeah, you can be pretty effective with just LS on the move. You can even sizeup somewhat effectively with LS by tapping left and right. For me, I use Right Stick for ALL moves. The key is to let off LS as you input the RS move, allow the cross (or whatever move) to initiate, then immediately move the LS in the direction you want to move AFTER the ISO move is done. I don't even think about it anymore, it's just second nature. But whatever's working for you, by all means, stick with it. Like I've mentioned before, there are a lot of different ways to play 2K -- and no ONE right way. Once you have all the options exposed to you in the retail version, I'm convinced that everyone will find something that's comfortable for them.

[blues rocker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Beluba

Yeah, you can be pretty effective with just LS on the move. You can even sizeup somewhat effectively with LS by tapping left and right. For me, I use Right Stick for ALL moves. The key is to let off LS as you input the RS move, allow the cross (or whatever move) to initiate, then immediately move the LS in the direction you want to move AFTER the ISO move is done. I don't even think about it anymore, it's just second nature. But whatever's working for you, by all means, stick with it. Like I've mentioned before, there are a lot of different ways to play 2K -- and no ONE right way. Once you have all the options exposed to you in the retail version, I'm convinced that everyone will find something that's comfortable for them.

yeah, the part in bold above is what needed to be cleared up. i think the confusion for a lot of people is that they didn't realize there would be automatic left stick crossovers. so people are trying to do crossovers with the right stick, but their player is already doing them automatically on the left stick, but a lot of people aren't aware that the left stick is what caused the crossover...so people are getting extra dribble hesitations that they didn't intend.

with that said, once i understood the function of the left stick moves, i grew to love the ease of them.

[thilanwij]

Quote: Originally Posted by blues rocker

no prob. glad to help. once i understood this stuff while playing last night, the control really started to feel good.

Yeah, these controls will take some time to get used to. I saw a post below by you that mentioned total control passing. What exactly does that do? Is that the one where you pull up icon passing and you use the right stick to point to a direction to pass to? And does that have a certain advantage over other ways of passing? Just curious.