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02:00 PM - September 25, 2012 by Beluba

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# 201 fatleg3 @ 09/28/12 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeC


	Question on the post controls. Is it possible to do a faceup then immediately enter into a spin layup (You know...the only move Blake Griffin knows in the post )? I have not succeeded so far because it keeps giving me the spin jumper animation instead of the spin layup/dunk. Is it because none of them have the post proficiency sig skill? Am I doing it wrong or is it simply not possible? Edit: The move in question:

As Beluba as already said, yes this is possible. In an earlier post, I posted a video with Dwight Howard doing it IRL.

They way I do it is get in the post without my dribble being used yet. Hold L2 and move the L-Stick towards the paint to faceup then crossover towards the paint (you can move the L-stick towards the basket or baseline to crossover towards the basket, or baseline), double tap O to start spin, then box to layup (hold R2 to finish with a dunk, its also easier to me to use the face button to do the spin dunk, especially with camera relative controls)

# 202 domidomdomz @ 09/28/12 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fatleg3


	As Beluba as already said, yes this is possible. In an earlier post, I posted a video with Dwight Howard doing it IRL. They way I do it is get in the post without my dribble being used yet. Hold L2 and move the L-Stick towards the paint to faceup then crossover towards the paint (you can move the L-stick towards the basket or baseline to crossover towards the basket, or baseline), double tap O to start spin, then box to layup (hold R2 to finish with a dunk, its also easier to me to use the face button to do the spin dunk, especially with camera relative controls)

Yeah we were talking in the earlier posts about it.

This is how I do it with the shot stick.

- Post-up with dribble unused
- Face-Up Drive (Press Y(Triangle) + Left-Stick towards basket)
- Spin Layup or Dunk (While driving, Hold LT(L2) + twirl Right-Stick clockwise [+ Hold RT(R2) if you want to dunk])

# 203 RyanFitzmagic @ 09/28/12 11:10 AM

I feel like we can't do sizeups that look like the animations from last year. I was hoping it'd be smoother but it doesn't seem that way to me. Is it just because I'm not good with the sticks? I can't do this for my life:

By the way, I do know the last part of the Steph Curry gif (the hop back) was part of his shot gather, not a sizeup.

# 204 domidomdomz @ 09/28/12 11:21 AM

^
Can't we do the size ups with just flicking the RS left and right with the player just dribbling in stationary position?

I'm gonna go check later when I come home.

# 205 RyanFitzmagic @ 09/28/12 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by domidomdomz


	^ Can't we do the size ups with just flicking the RS left and right with the player just dribbling in stationary position?

Technically, but as far as I can tell, they don't look like that. They look jerky, like Live.

# 206 RyanFitzmagic @ 09/28/12 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeC


	If you really want smoove ball-handling get James Harden into the game. That should improve how the dribbling looks to you if you use him as well.

I hope I don't have to do that. I don't want to have to dribble with certain players to get it to look right.

# 207 Eman5805 @ 09/28/12 11:47 AM

There's a rhythm to it. I've gotten pretty close to that kinda stuff. Kinda gotta anticipate when to make the next move. Gonna be spending a LOT of time in the practice sessions alone working all this out.

# 208 Goffs @ 09/28/12 11:54 AM

I actually like the total control for size ups...you can do all kinds of moves with just the sticks....

# 209 ForeverVersatile @ 09/28/12 12:59 PM

It seems like mysel,f DukeC and AllstarDaDon are the only ones that have a grip on the dribble controls???

# 210 thilanwij @ 09/28/12 01:25 PM

I'm getting a hang of the controls, but like I've seen, I need to lay off the right stick when moving. And I noticed when I wanna drive to the hoop sometimes the dribble move doesn't launch me like the hesitation. any tips on that guys? Do I use turbo and LS towards the hoop to drive/launch?

# 211 younggrease @ 09/28/12 01:26 PM

Is there any drawback to staying with the old controls? Are there things you won't be able to do?

Personally, I never liked the dribble stick with Live and don't feel like switching unless I'll be missing out on certain moves. the pulling of the trigger seems counter-intuitive to me.

# 212 blues rocker @ 09/28/12 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Beluba


	I'll have to see if I can figure out a way to work it into 2k14. You're right... offball control has been pretty clunky in 2K for a while now.

Hey, Beluba. i've got a question kind of related to this - it's about the icon lead pass. the versatility of the lead pass has been greatly reduced after 2k11. you can no longer use it to make a stationary receiver move or cut - ever since 2k12, the lead pass only works to BARELY redirect a receiver who is already moving. what i liked about the lead passing in 2k11 was that you could make stationary receivers move and cut to open areas if they didn't move there on their own. the removal of this function is pretty frustrating to me - a lot of times i'll see an opening and want to lead my teammate to cut through it, so i'll try to lead him there like in 2k11, but instead he just stands in place when i pass to him...using the lead pass doesn't even change the placement of the pass if the receiver is standing still.

the lead pass in 2k11 was overpowered because it made stationary receivers launch forward too quickly, but i would still like the ability move them around in a realistic way with lead pass. what was the reasoning for removing this functionality from the lead pass? was it a technical issue, or was it viewed as an exploit that needed to be removed? if it was done in a more realistic way, i don't see it as an exploit at all. it made the passing game a lot more fun...it gave you a lot more control over your offense and allowed you to create better passing angles. the improved teammate AI helps your teammates to make cuts on their own, but there are still many times when they fail to move to open areas...in these situations the old lead pass functionality would help greatly. please bring it back.

# 213 Vni @ 09/28/12 02:03 PM

Are you guys using turbo when driving? And are you performing dribble moves while using turbo?

# 214 JasonMartin @ 09/28/12 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Throne2K11


	It seems like mysel,f DukeC and AllstarDaDon are the only ones that have a grip on the dribble controls???

Wow you must be so good.

# 215 domidomdomz @ 09/28/12 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blues rocker


	another thing that helped me with the control is realizing that the sprint trigger does nothing for you in the half court - player speed in the half court is mostly automatic - your player speeds up on his own when he has a lane and he will automatically get sucked forward into open lanes when you drive toward them, even when not using the sprint trigger...i'm still torn as to whether i like this or not. i'm not sure what the reasoning was for adding these "automatic" drives/speed bursts. i assume it was done to give more realism to contextual drive scenarios. anyway, in the half court it's pretty much pointless to use the sprint trigger at all except to tell the game you want to do a dunk. the sprint trigger does help you launch out of sizeups faster, but once you are driving it's pretty pointless to use it.

I am sensing the "automatic" feeling you are talking about as well. But I've done it with Russ West, Wade and Bron only. I guess it's fine as long as not everyone has this ability of automatically being sucked forward against a defender.

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Originally Posted by Vni


	Are you guys using turbo when driving? And are you performing dribble moves while using turbo?

I only use Turbo when I already got pass the defender or when I have a clear lane for a dunk.

I try not to use the Turbo when doing dribble moves. Just a minimal RS variation as well but variation of "change direction" using the LS.

# 216 aloncho11 @ 09/28/12 03:16 PM

Is there a specific pre-dribble command to palm the ball (protect it) ?

# 217 djsider2 @ 09/28/12 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by slick589


	I can break down my defender im just having trouble getting that explosive first step/launch towards the hoop that cpu westbrook does to me all day. Any tips? Cant wait for Da Czar to come out with his tutorial vids haha

I think once you have that opening after juking the defender, the explosiveness comes from turbo button. I think Beluba mentioned it earlier in this thread. The turbo button is no longer only for long sprints, but used to get that explosion out of stand still (makes sense to me, since now you have 2 options on how fast you want to speed up).

# 218 rbillan @ 09/28/12 03:25 PM

How are you guys dealing with the conflicts between both sticks while dribbling?

example u can do crossovers/spins with both sticks, and trying to drive to the hoop at a different angle sometimes does a move when you don't want it to

Also, i switched to Oklahoma for the first time yesterday and trying to use the dribble stick on the other side of the court is like a whole new ball game in using the controls

# 219 blues rocker @ 09/28/12 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rbillan


	How are you guys dealing with the conflicts between both sticks while dribbling? example u can do crossovers/spins with both sticks, and trying to drive to the hoop at a different angle sometimes does a move when you don't want it to Also, i switched to Oklahoma for the first time yesterday and trying to use the dribble stick on the other side of the court is like a whole new ball game in using the controls

below is the quote from my earlier post in this tread - it should clear up the issue you're talking about:

Quote:

Originally Posted by blues rocker


	i'm finally getting a feel for the controls, and i'm loving them. but there were some things i had to understand before it made sense. this is what made it click for me - the right stick dribbling is really best when used only for "stand-still sizeups". the right stick should mostly be thought of as the "sizeup stick". once you are moving, it is best to stay away from the right stick, because the left stick dribble moves and right stick dribble moves will be fighting each other. what i had to understand was that the player automatically does crossovers, stepbacks, spins with just the left stick...i was accustomed to using a modifier for those moves in previous 2k's...so seeing my player do them automatically without a modifier was really throwing me off. i was trying to do these moves with the right stick, but i really only needed the left stick to do them. what was confusing me is that there is a bit of a redundancy going on - a lot of similar dribble moves can be performed with both the right stick or the left stick (spins, crossovers, stepbacks). what was messing me up is that i'd be driving and i'd want to do a crossover, so i'd use the right stick to do crossover, but my player would automatically do a crossover with the left stick, then he'd do another dribble move from my right stick input...so my player would do two animations when i only wanted one - the left stick crossover and right stick move were fighting each other. once i stopped using the right stick while moving, it all started to work. the only move i use the right stick for while moving is the behind-the-back, because there is no way to pull that off with just the left stick.

basically, the gist is: when you are driving or moving, only use LS. the 2 exceptions i have are the behind-the-back and hesitation moves - these are the only moves I use RS for while driving or moving.

# 220 ffaacc03 @ 09/28/12 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aloncho11


	Is there a specific pre-dribble command to palm the ball (protect it) ?

Would like to know too ... once I receive the ball out of a pass, how can I do this protect the ball motion ? ... last year was with LT I believe.

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