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NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2

06:54 PM - May 17, 2012 by TDenverFan

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# 281 coogrfan @ 05/19/12 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerofRed25


	I'm fascinated how so many of you are focused on the sound (admittedly awful sounding) or atmosphere when there is blatantly glitched out gameplay happening on the field. I don't care if the video clip played "It's a Small World" on repeat for 5 minutes, but the defense was completely glitched out on every single pass play. Read and react? I'd settle for defenders being in the general vicinity of their defensive assignment on any given play. But hey, it's an early build...... right? Right?

Imo it's hard to draw too many conclusions given the 99.99% certainty that they were playing on freshman. Hopefully we'll get to see some AA or Heisman gameplay in the near future.

# 282 stylee @ 05/19/12 03:02 PM

All I can figure from people that say "WAIT FOR THE DEMO TO JUDGE" is that they have Hume-ean objections to the validity of inductive logic.

# 283 khaliib @ 05/19/12 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerofRed25


	but the defense was completely glitched out on every single pass play. Read and react? I'd settle for defenders being in the general vicinity of their defensive assignment on any given play. But hey, it's an early build...... right? Right?

It's that "Acceleration" rating that's the cause for the "Glitch to the Spot" or Electric Slide/5 yrds in 3 sidesteps movement.

Another good idea but Poorly implemented.

I tested lowering to 25-50 depending on player, and it's a night-n-day difference.

Unfortunately, who what's to edit that many player's, then deal with editing the in-game generated player's just to accomplish this?

A "GLOBAL EDITOR" would go a long way, but that's giving the gamer too much customizing ability.

I'll just rent, but I'm looking more to what Madden is talking about bringing to the table this year.

I just create NCAA teams http://www.operationsports.com/forum...d.php?t=513261 on there and use what they have to play some college.

# 284 BlastX21 @ 05/19/12 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kjcheezhead


	I'm a NFL guy mostly. There was next to no chance I was gonna get NCAA anyways, but this vid just sealed the deal for me. My expectations for Madden just dropped to the floor as well after watching this. The next generation of consoles can't come soon enough for me.

No because then EA will take out coaching carousel, custom playbooks, and any other good feature, under the guise of "we can't carry them over from console to console at the present time" and then reintroduce them 3 years later as new features.

# 285 stylee @ 05/19/12 03:50 PM

Here's one way of looking at NCAA's problems vis a vis this forum:

The number of people on this board complaining about the correct type of socks, the right hue of a pylon, the exact percentage of Revo Speed helmets, etc. farrrrr outnumbers the people talking about the way the Power play is blocked, the problems with Over defenses, the flawed player movement or lack of momentum, the inability to run options effectively, etc.

Perhaps what's left of the fanbase really is the people who care about the superficial, trivial stuff (under the guise of INCREASED AUTHENTICITY). Those who value gameplay/scheming have already jumped ship.

I'm not sure if this is the proper interpretation, but it's one possibility.

# 286 DorianDonP @ 05/19/12 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stylee


	Here's one way of looking at NCAA's problems vis a vis this forum: The number of people on this board complaining about the correct type of socks, the right hue of a pylon, the exact percentage of Revo Speed helmets, etc. farrrrr outnumbers the people talking about the way the Power play is blocked, the problems with Over defenses, the flawed player movement or lack of momentum, the inability to run options effectively, etc. Perhaps what's left of the fanbase really is the people who care about the superficial, trivial stuff (under the guise of INCREASED AUTHENTICITY). Those who value gameplay/scheming have already jumped ship. I'm not sure if this is the proper interpretation, but it's one possibility.

Is say this is not an interpretaon but a bash post disguised as one.

Too much exaggeration and false dichotomy

# 287 gator3guy @ 05/19/12 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BlastX21


	No because then EA will take out coaching carousel, custom playbooks, and any other good feature, under the guise of "we can't carry them over from console to console at the present time" and then reintroduce them 3 years later as new features.

I'd rather them nail the gameplay part of the game and have minimal features, than have all the features and sub par gameplay. What good are custom playbooks, if the play on the field sucks? But that's just me.

# 288 noplace @ 05/19/12 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WIAggie


	very impressed so far...way better than 12, Anyone who says this is same game is a damm fool! now if the moron roster makers don't 99 every damm rating, NCAA 13 looks to be a great game

...................really?

# 289 TTD71 @ 05/19/12 04:25 PM

That is Madden NFL 12 movement and everything else that goes with it...

NCAA 12 had plenty of faults, but it also was fundamentally different than Madden in player speed and movement...as bad as NCAA 12 is with overpowered features and crap-tastic glitches, it was at least different than Madden and did "feel" different.

What I just saw gave me a distinct feeling of watching NFL 12 in NCAA uniforms, a return to the days of Madden's previous year being a perfect guide for the next year's NCAA gameplay.

I actually hope so - because if Madden NFL 13 gameplay after the super-duper, world-changing, never-play-old-game-again announcement on June 4th looks ANYTHING like this, then I will simply stop caring at all. I still care now...or I would not be following updates on OS and bothering to post, but if this is the "best" they can do, color me unimpressed and no longer interested until someone else has a chance to make a better game series.

All I want is an improved gameplay with realistic physics-based player interactions (if I hit an off-balance player from the side, my impact MUST NOT morph around so that the affect is translated as if I hit them head up and so on)...

Help me June the Fourth, you're my only hope!

# 290 Pared @ 05/19/12 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stylee


	Here's one way of looking at NCAA's problems vis a vis this forum: The number of people on this board complaining about the correct type of socks, the right hue of a pylon, the exact percentage of Revo Speed helmets, etc. farrrrr outnumbers the people talking about the way the Power play is blocked, the problems with Over defenses, the flawed player movement or lack of momentum, the inability to run options effectively, etc. Perhaps what's left of the fanbase really is the people who care about the superficial, trivial stuff (under the guise of INCREASED AUTHENTICITY). Those who value gameplay/scheming have already jumped ship. I'm not sure if this is the proper interpretation, but it's one possibility.

I don't think you can make a claim on logic in your previous post and then follow up with this one.

Did you actually read how many were saying the game looks the same and then went on to discuss gameplay issues?

# 291 stylee @ 05/19/12 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	I don't think you can make a claim on logic in your previous post and then follow up with this one. Did you actually read how many were saying the game looks the same and then went on to discuss gameplay issues?

just trying to generate discussion.

# 292 BenGerman @ 05/19/12 04:53 PM

I think the best move that EA could make at this point, is to show Part 3 of this game, where Oregon has the ball. That way, if their claims are true, we can see Oregon running the option effectively. I know for a lot of OSers, including myself, this would garner some big time interest.

# 293 Bootzilla @ 05/19/12 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerofRed25


	The one thing I saw that I did like was that defenders in zone (the D was in zone on every pass in the video) were running with WR's crossing through their zone. You could see it a few times on the slot receivers. Unfortunately, I think this is what is causing the problems on the plays I pointed out. On the TD, the defender out of position looked like he was trying to run with the WR through his zone, but he simply never released him. He should have had a deep third coverage and would have backpedaled straight back, not even playing attention to that WR running what was an underneath. On the automotion Drive play, I just can't even come up with an explanation. Like, everything about it is wrong. Not only was the left CB running with the WR, he was running well ahead of the WR. And then the right CB, I don't even know. He sprinted from numbers to hash, froze covering nothing and then sprinted away from the ball as it was thrown. Is this the read and react system we're getting because that was the most buggy, glitch infested set of defensive clips I've ever seen in a football game. Those plays were truly in line with the option glitch from last year, that bad. It should also be noted on that same play that the RB was assigned to a blue route, a delayed release into the flat. Neither of which he actually did. He released immediately and he hooked. Had he kept running, he would have run to the area the glitched out LCB should have been and it would have been a walk in touchdown. EDIT: I tried going second by second through that play to see if there is something I missed or maybe the play call really had those guys assigned to a man while there were hook zones in the middle, but nope. That was straight Cover 2 zone and the guys in flat zones glitched out.

I actually saw some good things with the zone defenses. I didn't do a play by play breakdown but, after reading your first post (which you seem to have softened a bit in your criticism since) I frame by framed the first three pass plays and somewhat disagreed with your assessments. Not total disagreements mind you, just seeing positives where you saw negatives.

First play I like how the safety got to his drop. The defense was fairly disguised and he had to get to his zone. To get to his zone he had to turn and run in order to get there at the proper depth. He didn't have his back turned the entire time. In previous iterations that safety most likely would have just been lined up in his zone and not to the strong side of the formation. When he bailed to get to his zone he didn't do the "Space Invaders" shuffle. He turned and ran. That's a positive.

Other positives: Linebackers buzzing out to the flats. Corners getting their hands on receivers and redirecting them before releasing them in zone coverage. Defenders carrying receivers through their zones. Not every defender automatically reacting like magnets as soon as a ball is released.

Yeah, some other stuff looked pretty shaky. Hopefully it can be tightened up. But, without knowing difficulty and without sliders..... As for Oregon's defense, Barkley did complete 77% of his passes for 323 and 4 TDs vs. this secondary so, maybe this is fairly accurate.

# 294 ccross1530 @ 05/19/12 07:39 PM

I'm not buying this game just due to the fact that they have USC ranked #21!!! Even Oregon should be at about #5 but they have them at #8. Are you kidding me??? Do these guys not pay attention to college football at all???

# 295 cts @ 05/19/12 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ccross1530


	I'm not buying this game just due to the fact that they have USC ranked #21!!! Even Oregon should be at about #5 but they have them at #8. Are you kidding me??? Do these guys not pay attention to college football at all???

Oh, the Irony.

# 296 tjenkin7 @ 05/19/12 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ccross1530


	I'm not buying this game just due to the fact that they have USC ranked #21!!! Even Oregon should be at about #5 but they have them at #8. Are you kidding me??? Do these guys not pay attention to college football at all???

I think it's in the middle of the season in dynasty mode.

Now go crawl back into your hole.

# 297 ccross1530 @ 05/19/12 07:56 PM

Same s***, new year. God... the player models look f***ing stupid and goofy. If they aren't going to change the player models you would think they would atleast put the players in cool gear that players ACTUALLY WEAR to make them look better. I think this may be the first year I boycott this stupid company and not buy their halfa** game, because it really does look extremely similar to 12'. I think I'll rent it though, just because I want to see if they actually did something that they said they would in the "read and react" defenders. Last year they said "no more warp tackling" which was f***ing bulls***. I have guys teleporting to tackle my a** all the time when I play 12'. I bet the head turning stuff will look really unrealistic. EA will probably have defenders heads spinning all the way around like the f***ing exorcist. And then when people complain they will just be like "well, the defender WAS looking at the ball, he just has the neck agility of an owl".

# 298 ccross1530 @ 05/19/12 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tjenkin7


	I think it's in the middle of the season in dynasty mode. Now go crawl back into your hole.

Well thank god for that. I was like are they really that ignorant about CFB?? Are you an EA employee or something?? You seemed all butthurt from my comment. "Now go crawl back into your hole"...Ouch, man.

# 299 ccross1530 @ 05/19/12 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Smith.0


	Oh, the Irony.

I just saw "gameplay video" and clicked play. Excuse me for watching the video and not automatically assuming it was in the middle of a dynasty.

# 300 ccross1530 @ 05/19/12 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BenGerman


	I think the best move that EA could make at this point, is to show Part 3 of this game, where Oregon has the ball. That way, if their claims are true, we can see Oregon running the option effectively. I know for a lot of OSers, including myself, this would garner some big time interest.

^^^THIS^^^^. They way they made Oregon run their offense when you played against them was just so stupid. Completely unaffective and not challenging at all to play against on the game.

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